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I'm aware of the smaller text bit. Not having a maths brain, economic theory is knackering. (Mind you, I have never sought to be Chancellor, and understand economic theory better than some who have, but that's not a good thing!) Many years ago now, I did have to read a lot of stuff on the economy of 2007-2010 in the lead up to the financial crash and the levers which prevented another Great Depression, for a project, and I came away from it with far greater respect for Gordon Brown. And considerably less respect for George Osborne. The best bit incidentally was the memoirs of Alan Greenspan, followed by the memoirs of George Soros. Greenspan somewhat whitewashed his role in events, and Soros, who wrote his book after Greenspans, takes a chapter out to trounce Greenspans version of events. Dignified, no, but rather amusing! In rough order of your podcast. Wolf is correct about the constraints of modern capitalism, which is very far from the meritocracy we are taught to believe in, but I would say that as a socialist. He's correct about the demagogues. Unfortunately, even with his recent setback (setback in the "still in power" definition of the term), Modi is a model for that sort of leader. If you focus on infrastructure, or even speak about infrastructure while achieving little of it, you can gain a huge coalition of poorer voters who will look the other way if that comes with victimising minorities, and hell, many of them might see that as a joyful bonus. Boris Johnson saw this, hence the Levelling Up talk, but managed to damage his own brand before people noticed it was all talk and no action. Donald Trump in 2020 was an odd case in which while he had spoken loudly about everything he was going to do, on popularist localism he actually ceded the ground to Joe Biden, who made great political capital out of it in the Rust Belt. (This is something Biden also did successfully in campaigning in 2012 and a reason you can't count out his ground game, even if he is 82 and slow.) People put a lot of belief into Farage as being our version of this, and he's not got the tools (he has however overachieved for his position*), but the French political establishment knew Jean Marie le Pen wasn't a real threat, and so continued sleepwalking for decades until we are at the position we are now. Worse, they conceded ground, until the difference wasn't as scary to voters. Macron's probably surrendered the French parliament for reasons that bamboozle me, dreadful politician. What France is, is a lesson to the UK and Germany, but primarily us. If Labour get into power, the Macron route leads to an empowered far right. *The late Tony Benn said of Neil Kinnock once (and I paraphrase as its been years now), "he gave up every principle to get a good headline, and instead of public appraisal, he just lost every swing voter he began with". This reminds me of the Conservative party in recent years. In terms of the post-war settlement (which is mythologised more than it was), that was ripped up by Reagonomics and Thatcher. Wolf is correct in that the rise of Donald Trump is linked to the rise of Reagan (in fact, Ronnie came up with the Make America Great Again slogan!), as the economic vulture capitalists allowed to grow unregulated in the eighties gave Trump his position of power. However, I don't think it was an inevitable Point A to Point B route. The rise of right wing demagogues was aided by the financial crash, which was aided by the consensus Reagan set up and Clinton and the Bushes followed, but this wasn't a necessary chain of cause and effect, it was a political expedience of dealing with it when you had to. We should have seen this coming, as Calvin Coolidge cut taxes and regulation and led to a vast Wall Street boom all through the 1920s, which led to a speculation disaster and the Wall Street Crash. Coolidge had the smart idea of retiring from the Presidency less than a year before, and so ahistorical politicians look at the cuts and economic boom under his reign and don't connect it to the vast bust that happened after. This also happened under Andrew Jackson, and in the 1870s. Economic history repeats. This is a lot of American economics, but in 1840, 1878, 1929 and 2007, the American system shock helped bugger up the rest of the world. Financially, a bit like the Mount Tambora explosion, which led to the UK having no summer in 1816! In terms of the "need the votes, pander to the masses, newsspeak", I dislike it too. Unfortunately, we are but two voters in a sea of thirty million, and the vast majority of them are... structurally challenged to hearing the truth. The evidence is in the last century of voting. Enough voters to swing an election will vote against their own best interests if they fear a tax rise on themselves. Even in a situation like now, certain parties might fear it could be election changing, because they have the race memory of 1992 and the Poll Tax and economic decline being forgiven. Labour in general are always fighting the last election, and what the lessons the public taught them or they think the public taught them. Hence, Harriet Harman's idiotic decision to put the whips on the abstention of the Welfare bill in 2015, the decision that directly led to the election of Jeremy Corbyn as party leader, because as interim leader, that was the lesson she took from the 2015 election. That we needed to be harsher on benefits and immigration. Now in 2024, they are still adhering to the lessons of 2019: don't promise too much, don't let anyone think you are even slightly anti-semitic, don't both sides Putin. No, hang on, the last one is easy enough. I'm actually surprised how much the Labour manifesto has snuck in (its quite similar to the Corbyn manifesto, but with most of the headline stuff removed) but yeah, they're timid because voters have taught them to be timid. And probably for the best, as even now, in this climate, for every person online I see bemoaning the lack of progressive policies spouted by Kier Starmer, I've heard scared people with actual bloody votes worried that Starmer speaks far too revolutionary for their liking. It's an annoying internet truism to say we get the politicians we vote for, but the country certain does*. *"The country needs more Alan Milburns and far less Dennis Skinners" as a ranking campaigner under Blair told me. Alan Milburn incidentally fucked off at the first bit of bother. The housing issues stem from the slum clearances. Not because the slum clearances were bad. Far from it. In clearing the slums, as political expediency, the major cities cleaned house. So they didn't get rid of the rotten stock, they got rid of everything: the good stock tenements, the town houses, the churches, the shops, the cinemas, the public loos, the community centres, everything. Vast chunks of which, had they been restored at the time (or in thousands of cases, any time in the decades leading including this Tory government), would have saved this country billions. The problems with creating the new areas like Easterhouse for example are a different topic in themselves, though adding mental health issues and a lack of anything to do to the working poor is creating a vacuum for health woes, addiction and crime. However, this is specifically about the housing numbers. The houses in Glasgow, and London and other places were replaced with high rise towers. Now, I dislike high rises for many good reasons, like the fact they were badly maintained (damp often got into the roots), and poorly policed, and they tend to look ugly as shit. But in specific housing numbers, the number of flats you can get in a high rise, with UK planning permission rules, and health and safety laws, is considerably FEWER than what you can get from tenements or flats built on the same area! In fact, in Glasgow (sorry, most of my knowledge comes from my homeland, but the same thing happened across Britain), the clearances and building of the high rises led to a DEFICIT of 100, 000 homes. A deficit which we have been fighting ever since, with increased birth rates! Governments know we need housing, but they also like to be praised by the NIMBYs of the Mail, Telegraph and so on. Meanwhile, the opposition to this (so called Lib Dem and Green councillors*) revert to NIMBYism on housing in their own area. *Don't let this dissuade anyone voting Lib Dem in a Tory/Lib Dem seat next week. I'd say the same about the Greens, but I can't think of any seat where voting Green would be of use. And I speak as someone very into renewable energy! We built huge numbers of houses in the 1890s, the 1920s and the 1950s. And not as many since. He's correct that developers and landlords gain a lot of power, but again, this is the vacuum of power. Where you leave a hole, someone finds a way to take advantage or fill that hole. Luckily, we have a lot of ground on which you could build houses, and its not the green belt. There are also things the government could do to persuade restoration of homes which exist but which are empty. For example, by removing the VAT on restoration building to make it equal with other building taxes, as the current system disencetivises doing anything to solve the crisis. (UKIP pointed this out in 2015, and lord knows I hate having to admit they were ever right about anything.) I think the government which solves this would be in power for a generation. The Tories surrendered the ground. If Labour surrender the ground in the next decade, they leave the ground open to the British Modi and can't assume they won't show up. I have to admit a blind spot on inheritance tax as it involves sums way beyond my life experience. It kicks in after the first £325k. It's a bit like George Harrison writing Taxman. The 95% rate (which was intended to make NHS prescriptions free, but the backlash led to it being abandoned) only kicked in well above the normal level of pay, so the Beatles were already richer than Croesus before those tax bands kicked in. His issue is that the people they hung out with where siphoning off every little bit of money and blaming the tax system for their philandering! (The fact that the Beatles were so shit with their money, incidentally, means its staggering to me that somehow Paul McCartney wound up with 100% of the royalties for Yesterday, one of the most ludicrously successful royalties decisions in music history. People around the Fab Four were so greedy they didn't notice the actual money tree right there in front of them.) I'm sure it sucks if you have to pay a huge tax bill when you inherit shitloads, but I'm afraid that's someone elses who is far richer than me and their problem. Unsatisfying but honest! I will say I am open to hearing about land taxing, given the amount of landbanking profiteers due in the UK, which directly leads to the housing problem mentioned above. Everything is connected! In short (err, what, msc?), I tend to agree with the general points. However, I would note that Gordon Brown spoke nothing but caution as Shadow Chancellor, yet his first act was Bank of England independence, and child poverty was all but eradicated through his time in office, as were NHS waiting times. But he also said that Labour needed a few years in office to prove they wouldn't wreck the economy (thanks to media and Tory propaganda) so they could be trusted to actually fix things. I suspect (or hope) that time period will be a lot shorter for Starmer and co, and that once the fears of not being elected are (hopefully) removed, they get on with the job we all want them to do, without an electorate to box them in. I'll be judging them on the things they do in office (should they get there) rather than the mealmouthed stuff they need to say to get elected. Blair/Brown and Wilson and MacMillan said much the same much ado about nothing and were transformative. David Cameron did the same, and was a complete and utter David Cameron. The alternative is the route to the demagogues outlined by Wolf, but so often they prove they can talk of solutions but provide none of them, and hurt the very people who need them most. So for all of that, and a few historical injustices I'm sore on (see housing above), I'm hoping Starmer realises the task ahead. Because bloody hell, to quote one former Prime Minster, there is no alternative!

Juhani Palmu dead at 79.

Starring in a remake of Basic Instinct, apparently

The endurance game of Westminster returns with Shaun once again as your host carrying on the idea started and brought to life by Bibliogryphon back in 2015. Back for its fourth parliament in 9 years the game will likely take us to near the end of the decade? How big will Starmer`s majority be? Will the Tory collapse result in some of the most popular picks in the last game lose their seat.Only time will tell. The rules are the same as before except extra points for criminal behaviour that results in a criminal conviction being added however politicians rarely seem to get convicted these days! No bets allowed especially for inside trading. On to the rules: Pick 65 (1/10) of the 650 members of parliament elected on the 4th July 2024 During the next parliament you will score the following for: -Death while in seat_ 30 points _Resignation for criminal activity - 20 points which will increase to 25 if the resigning matter results in a criminal conviction -Non criminal resignations -10 points (Reduced to 5 if the candidate stands in the by election and wins) -Correctly predicted by elections that wipe out a government majority 25 (Increased to 50 if the government collapses as a result) -Unique picks :10 points Entries open from 07:00 am BST on the 5th July 2024 and entries close on 23:59 on 14th July 2024 Good luck everyone.

I think it’s time for a reminder of @TQR’s flowchart

So, England scrape through to the Quarterfinals, the election happens and suddenly England click like they're 1970 Brazil, 1997 Blair or a weekend with Karen Gillan, and smash the opposition. Got it.

And dead: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-26/bicycle-bandit-kym-allen-parsons-dies/104022818

june 25 2024 29 Ella Henderson — Ghost 29 Mark Ronson ft. Bruno Mars — Uptown Funk 29 Kiesza — Hideaway 28 Years & Years — King 27 Pitbull ft. Kesha — Timber  26 Justin Bieber - Love Yourself 26 Calvin Harris — Summer 26 Adele — Hello 25 Pharrel Williams — Happy 25 Little Mix — Black Magic 24 Magic — Rude 23 Clean Bandit ft. Jess Glynne — Rather Be 22 Lilly Wood & The Prick — Prayer In C 22 Nico & Vinz — Am I Wrong 21 David Guetta ft. Sam Martin — Lovers On The Sun 21 Sigma ft. Paloma Faith — Changing 21 Ellie Goulding — Love Me Like You Do 21 Sam Smith — Stay With Me 21 Mr Probz — Waves 21 Oliver Heldens & Becky Hill — Gecko (Overdrive) 21 Justin Bieber — What Do You Mean? 21 KDA ft. Tinie Tempah & Katy B — Turn The Music Louder 21 Cheryl Cole ft. Tinie Tempah — Crazy Stupid Love 21 Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj — Bang Bang 21 Omi — Cheerleader  21 Duke Dumont ft. Jax Jones — I Got U  21 Sigma — Nobody To Love 21 Tinie Tempah ft. Jess Glynne — Not Letting Go 20 Sam Smith — Money On My Mind 20 Route 94 ft. Jess Glynne — My Love  20 Dvbbs & Borgeous ft. Tinie Tempah — Tsunami 20 5 Seconds Of Summer — She Looks So Perfect 20 Aloe Blacc — The Man 20 Rita Ora — I Will Never Let You Down 20 Secondcity — I Wanna Feel  20 Ariana Grande ft. Iggy Azalea — Problem 20 Calvin Harris ft. John Newman — Blame 20 Take That — These Days 20 Ben Haenow — Something I Need  20 Sam Smith ft. John Legend — Lay Me Down 20 Jason Derulo — Want To Want Me 20 Lost Frequencies — Are You With Me 20 David Zowie — House Every Weekend 20 Jess Glynne — Don’t Be So Hard On Yourself 20 Rachel Platten — Fight Song 20 Sigala — Easy Love 20 Meghan Trainor — All About That Bass +4 19 Jess Glynne — Hold My Hand  18 Rixton — Me And My Broken Heart 17 One Direction — Drag Me Down 17 Will.I.Am ft. Cody Wise — It’s My Birthday 17 Cheryl Cole — I Don’t Care -3 12 Ed Sheeran — Thinking Out Loud 11 Justin Bieber — Sorry  06 Wiz Khalifa ft. Charlie Puth — See You Again  06 Charlie Puth ft. Meghan Trainor —Marvin Gaye 00 The Lewisham & Greenwich NHS Choir — A Pile of Earth Over You -3

june 25 2024 AD 29 Ella Henderson — Ghost 29 Mark Ronson ft. Bruno Mars — Uptown Funk 29 Kiesza — Hideaway +1 28 Years & Years — King 27 Pitbull ft. Kesha — Timber  26 Justin Bieber - Love Yourself 26 Calvin Harris — Summer 26 Adele — Hello 25 Pharrel Williams — Happy -2 25 Little Mix — Black Magic 24 Magic — Rude 23 Clean Bandit ft. Jess Glynne — Rather Be+2 22 Lilly Wood & The Prick — Prayer In C 22 Nico & Vinz — Am I Wrong+1 21 David Guetta ft. Sam Martin — Lovers On The Sun 21 Sigma ft. Paloma Faith — Changing 21 Ellie Goulding — Love Me Like You Do 21 Sam Smith — Stay With Me 21 Mr Probz — Waves 21 Oliver Heldens & Becky Hill — Gecko (Overdrive) 21 Justin Bieber — What Do You Mean? 21 KDA ft. Tinie Tempah & Katy B — Turn The Music Louder 21 Cheryl Cole ft. Tinie Tempah — Crazy Stupid Love 21 Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj — Bang Bang 21 Omi — Cheerleader  21 Duke Dumont ft. Jax Jones — I Got U  21 Sigma — Nobody To Love 21 Tinie Tempah ft. Jess Glynne — Not Letting Go 20 Sam Smith — Money On My Mind 20 Route 94 ft. Jess Glynne — My Love  20 Dvbbs & Borgeous ft. Tinie Tempah — Tsunami 20 5 Seconds Of Summer — She Looks So Perfect 20 Aloe Blacc — The Man 20 Rita Ora — I Will Never Let You Down 20 Secondcity — I Wanna Feel  20 Ariana Grande ft. Iggy Azalea — Problem 20 Calvin Harris ft. John Newman — Blame 20 Cheryl Cole — I Don’t Care 20 Take That — These Days 20 Ben Haenow — Something I Need  20 Sam Smith ft. John Legend — Lay Me Down 20 Jason Derulo — Want To Want Me 20 Lost Frequencies — Are You With Me 20 David Zowie — House Every Weekend 20 Jess Glynne — Don’t Be So Hard On Yourself 20 Rachel Platten — Fight Song 20 Sigala — Easy Love 19 Jess Glynne — Hold My Hand  18 Rixton — Me And My Broken Heart 17 One Direction — Drag Me Down 17 Will.I.Am ft. Cody Wise — It’s My Birthday 16 Meghan Trainor — All About That Bass -4 12 Ed Sheeran — Thinking Out Loud 11 Justin Bieber — Sorry  06 Wiz Khalifa ft. Charlie Puth — See You Again  06 Charlie Puth ft. Meghan Trainor —Marvin Gaye 03 The Lewisham & Greenwich NHS Choir — A Bridge Over You

Perhaps it should be noted that England have only ever won a men's international tournament under Labour. And the UK has won the Eurovision 4 times out of 5 under Labour. Coincidence? Yes.

Rita Süssmuth has breast cancer: https://m.bild.de/unterhaltung/stars-und-leute/rita-suessmuth-brustkrebs-sitze-nicht-herum-und-warte-auf-den-tod-667a98abc4e7213818669551 So, if we get bored of our current names, we have a good future no. 1.

Do you think it is intelligent to suggest there's a 20% possibility fucking Gena Rowlands does not QO?

Frank Duckworth reportedly dead: Awaiting the usual confirmations.

SCAVENGER HUNT BINGO DEADPOOL RULES Each player picks five selections (and one sub) in each of five categories (for categories see below). There are three ways to win 1. You get at least one hit in each of the five categories 2. You get all five hits in one category 3. You get three unique hits across the whole game.  There is no fixed duration you play until there is a winner. In the event of a tie the total number of hits across all categories and after that the number of unique hits. Obits will not be stringent but must be in English and from a News source (not social media). The Game Controller will be checking that picks meet the category criteria at the start of the game but challenges will be accepted during the first two weeks after the full list of entries are published on the forum. In order to ensure that there are no issues with selected names that have died prior to the game beginning each team will need a substitute in each category. This will come into play if the death of a pick was found to be before the start of the game. Once the game has begun a substitute will not invalidate a unique pick but will not count as a unique pick for the player whose substitute it was. A unique pick is considered unique in category. For example if two categories were Conservative MPs and Contestants on Strictly Come Dancing/Dancing with the Stars and three players picked Edwina Curry in the first category and the fourth player picked her in the second category. If she eggspired then Player 4 would get a unique bonus. When a winner is declared the selection of the next categories passes to the victor and they get to select the new categories. The Categories for the sixth game are: 1) Anyone who has provided a credited voice for The Simpsons This also includes people who have played themselves as long as they are credited 2) Anyone who has been a spouse of a Head Of State For the purposes of this game HoS will include President, Monarch or Head of Government (PM) (so both Mary Wilson and Prince Philip would have counted) 3) Anyone who has won an Ivor Novello award (including band members as long as they were members at the time of the win) This is limited to the six main competitive categories and the two commercial awards as listed below Nominated annual awards Best Song Musically and Lyrically Best Contemporary Song Album Award Best Original Film Score Best Television Soundtrack Best Original Video Game Score Other annual awards Songwriter of the Year Most Performed Work 4) Any footballer (male or female) who has won a senior international cap for England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales 5) Anyone credited in a movie featuring Batman (from "Batman" (1943) to "The Flash" (2023)) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_in_film Teams must be PM’d to avoid revealing those unique picks. There will be a two-week period after the lists are published for disputes to be settled people whose picks are removed at this point will be allowed replacements but will not be allowed to select another person's unique pick. Entries close a midnight on 31st July 2024 (BST)

june 25 2024 32 Mark Ronson ft. Bruno Mars — Uptown Funk +3 29 Ella Henderson — Ghost 29 Kiesza — Hideaway 28 Years & Years — King 28 Pitbull ft. Kesha — Timber +1 26 Justin Bieber - Love Yourself 26 Calvin Harris — Summer 26 Adele — Hello 25 Little Mix — Black Magic 24 Magic — Rude 23 Clean Bandit ft. Jess Glynne — Rather Be 22 Lilly Wood & The Prick — Prayer In C 22 Nico & Vinz — Am I Wrong 21 David Guetta ft. Sam Martin — Lovers On The Sun 21 Sigma ft. Paloma Faith — Changing 21 Ellie Goulding — Love Me Like You Do 21 Sam Smith — Stay With Me 21 Mr Probz — Waves 21 Oliver Heldens & Becky Hill — Gecko (Overdrive) 21 Justin Bieber — What Do You Mean? 21 KDA ft. Tinie Tempah & Katy B — Turn The Music Louder 21 Cheryl Cole ft. Tinie Tempah — Crazy Stupid Love 21 Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj — Bang Bang 21 Omi — Cheerleader  21 Duke Dumont ft. Jax Jones — I Got U  21 Sigma — Nobody To Love 21 Tinie Tempah ft. Jess Glynne — Not Letting Go 20 Sam Smith — Money On My Mind 20 Route 94 ft. Jess Glynne — My Love  20 Dvbbs & Borgeous ft. Tinie Tempah — Tsunami 20 5 Seconds Of Summer — She Looks So Perfect 20 Aloe Blacc — The Man 20 Rita Ora — I Will Never Let You Down 20 Secondcity — I Wanna Feel  20 Ariana Grande ft. Iggy Azalea — Problem 20 Calvin Harris ft. John Newman — Blame 20 Take That — These Days 20 Ben Haenow — Something I Need  20 Sam Smith ft. John Legend — Lay Me Down 20 Jason Derulo — Want To Want Me 20 Lost Frequencies — Are You With Me 20 David Zowie — House Every Weekend 20 Jess Glynne — Don’t Be So Hard On Yourself 20 Rachel Platten — Fight Song 20 Sigala — Easy Love 20 Meghan Trainor — All About That Bass 19 Jess Glynne — Hold My Hand  19 Pharrel Williams — Happy -6 18 Rixton — Me And My Broken Heart 17 One Direction — Drag Me Down 17 Will.I.Am ft. Cody Wise — It’s My Birthday 17 Cheryl Cole — I Don’t Care 12 Ed Sheeran — Thinking Out Loud 11 Justin Bieber — Sorry  06 Wiz Khalifa ft. Charlie Puth — See You Again  06 Charlie Puth ft. Meghan Trainor —Marvin Gaye

For my sins I'm a football secretary for my local step 5 non league side. It's a tough gig with all the paperwork but I got recognised as a making the club the most friendly to visit and I've got some brilliant friends as a result as far as Bristol out of it. With the players - sometimes I have to be tough and it can be like herding ferrets around an assault course but it's mostly good. I don't sack the managers - leave that to our chairlady who can be brutal if needed!

About animated films... only The Lego Movie and The Lego Batman Movie?

Wed 26 Jun 58 David Bowie - Life on Mars? 54 Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street +4 54 Mott the Hoople - All The Young Dudes -6 40 Electric Light Orchestra - Don’t Bring Me Down 22 The Jam - The Eton Rifles 22 R. Dean Taylor— There’s A Ghost In My House 14 Suzi Quatro - 48 Crash 13 ABBA - Money, Money, Money 13 David Bowie - Sound and Vision

Wed 26 Jun 60 Mott the Hoople - All The Young Dudes +4 58 David Bowie - Life on Mars? 50 Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street 40 Electric Light Orchestra - Don’t Bring Me Down 22 The Jam - The Eton Rifles 22 R. Dean Taylor— There’s A Ghost In My House 14 Suzi Quatro - 48 Crash 13 ABBA - Money, Money, Money 13 David Bowie - Sound and Vision -6 00 ABBA - Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (the drop for Abba's worst single) -6

Sergeant Cecil was a British thoroughbred racehorse who died at the age of 25. Sold very cheaply as a foal, he was a slow-maturing player who showed normal form in his first four seasons and took fourteen attempts to win his first race. As a six-year-old in 2005 he improved rapidly and completed a unique treble in handicap racing by winning the Northumberland Plate, Ebor Handicap and Cesarewitch Handicap. The following year he made a successful transition to weight-for-age racing, winning the Lonsdale Cup, Doncaster Cup and Prix du Cadran. He was never as good again, but recorded a great final victory in the 2007 Yorkshire Cup https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/he-was-one-of-the-toughest-horses-ive-ever-been-involved-with-staying-star-sergeant-cecil-dies-at-25-a4VRp9C7s2Cy/ Second right

Right, this better be the right thread.... Much as I've lately moaned about The Guardian. This gem is gleaned from a commenter BTL with his finger on the pulse.

tmz has it

I remember when Peter Schmeichel was one of the top goalkeepers and Kasper Schmeichel was only a few years old. Now Kasper Schmeichel is playing for Denmark like his dad for his country.

Cochell was still alive in 2019 when this photo of his wife's gravestone was taken. Either that or he died in such obscurity that they forgot to bury him with her, which I suppose could be feasible.

RIP