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My apologies, I assumed you were interested in serious political discussion, not half-baked claptrap. At least I know for next time.

Is anybody interested in the German equivalent? Then please have a look. Deceased Top 10 singles performers/German Charts 2000-2009:

Just been perusing this thread, so apologies for being a few days old but after Earl Cameron's death, I was looking at the research I did for Round 1 of Biblio's Scavenger Hunt Bingo (Doctor Who actors). By my reckoning, since I compiled the list in 2016, we've lost the oldest 5 living Doctor Who actors (of which Cameron was the oldest): Earl Cameron, Richard Beale, Peter Sallis, Dudley Simpson and Nicolas Parsons, plus plenty more from the top 20 or 30. I believe (and I'm sure someone on here will correct me if I'm wrong) the oldest living Doctor Who actors now are: 1. Arnold Yarrow (100) - Bellal in Death to the Daleks (1974) 2. Donald Pelmear (96) - Professor Rubeish in The Time Warrior (1973/74) 3. Laurie Webb (96) - Mr Ollis in The Three Doctors (1973) 4. David Graham (96) - Professor Kerensky in City of Death (1979), plus other roles including voices of the Daleks (and Parker in Thunderbirds) 5. William Russell (95) - Ian Chesterton, companion of the First Doctor 6. Morris Perry (95) - Captain Dent in Colony in Space (1971) 7. Ysanne Churchman (95) - Alpha Centuari in The Curse of Peladon (1972) and The Monster of Peladon (1974) 8. Andre Maranne (94) - Benoit in The Moonbase (1967) 9. Gregg Palmer (94?) - Cyberman in The Tenth Planet (1966) 9. David de Keyser (93) - Voice of the Atraxi in The Eleventh Hour (2010) 10. June Brown (93) - Lady Eleanor in The Time Warrior (1973/74) 11. Geoffrey Palmer (93) - Masters in Doctor Who and the Silurians (1970), Administrator in The Mutants and Captain Hardaker in Voyage of the Damned (2007) 12. Graham Rigby (93) - Larry in The Dalek Invasion of Earth (1964) 13. Derek Smith (93) - Doorman in Human Nature (2007) 14. Wendy Danvers (93?) - Amazonia in The Curse of Peladon (1972) - status unknown 15. Frank Windsor (92) - Ranulf in The King's Demons (1983) and Inspector Mackenzie in Ghost Light (1989) 16. Peter Cellier (92) - Andrews in Time-Flight (1982) 17. Michael Craig (92) - Commodore Travers in The Trial of a Time Lord: Terror of the Vervoids (1986) 18. Mark Eden (92) - Marco Polo in Marco Polo (1964) 19. Georgine Anderson (92) - May in Gridlock (2007) 20. Bernard Cribbins (91) - Wilfrid Mott, companion of the Tenth Doctor (plus other Who roles) 21. Frank Mills (91) - Radio Telescope Director in Terror of the Autons (1971) 22. John Nettleton (91) - Reverend Ernest Matthews in Ghost Light (1989) 23. Damaris Hayman (91) - Miss Hawthorne in The Daemons (1971) 24. Thelma Barlow (91) - Lady Thaw in The Lazarus Experiment (2007) 25. Steve Machin (91) - Various parts in Old Who 26. Patricia Prior (91) - Mr Ollis in The Three Doctors (1973) 27. John Woodvine (90) - The Marshal in The Armageddon Factor (1979) 28. Colin Jeavons (90) - Damon in The Underwater Menace (1967) 29. Clifford Rose (90) - Rorvik in Warriors' Gate (1981) 30. Roy Evans (90) - Trantis in The Daleks' Master Plan (1965/66), Bert in The Green Death (1973) and Miner in The Monster of Peladon (1974) 31. Henry Woolf (90) - The Collector in The Sun Makers (1977) 32. Shirley Cooklin (90) - Kaftan in Tomb of the Cybermen (1968) 33. Gary Watson (90) - Arthur Terrall in The Evil of the Daleks (1967) 34. David Garfield (90) - Neeva in The Face of Evil (1977) and Von Weich in The War Games (1969) 35. Lilias Walker (90) - Sister Lamont in Terror of the Zygons (1975) 36. John Rolfe (90) - Soldier in The War Machines (1966) Sam in The Moonbase (1967) and Fell in The Green Death (1973) 37. Alan Curtis (89) - Major Green in The War Machines (1966) I think that's all the living Doctor Who actors who are over the age of 90. Hope this is useful. Special mention for Barbara Clegg (94) - writer of Enlightenment (1983) EDITED to include @msc's more *complete* research...

So dumb filterless rambling counts as serious political discussion? Imagine being so mentally fucked that you think that having a orange man in office who says stupid shit is worse than going to war with Iraq over lies by GWB and his administration... Maybe let your balls drop first and then have a political discussion?

Kane Tanaka is now the 6th oldest verified person ever.

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A few musical ones: Marc Almond, off of Soft Cell, 63 Jim Kerr, off of Simple Minds, 61 Courtney Love, off of not killing her husband, 56

Glee actress Naya Rivera feared dead in a possible drowning

No matter how racist Biden is or isn't,Trump has been spending all his energy the last few weeks engaging in culture war battles about statues,BLM protestors,SJW's,Ilhan Omar,the media etc. He possibly could win(though seems unlikely how badly he is handiling the Pandemic) if he run's against Biden and increases the dudes negative rating.However running against a bunch of strawmen(women) who aren't Joe Biden isn't gonna hurt his opponent come November.

Dear Iain/Coffin Lodger With your track record in predictions, please do not predict any doom for Donald Trump until 2025 at the earliest. Yours, with love The Rest of the World

I was trying to be nice, you!

Nice work, Rover. Just to add: Arnold Yarrow (100) - Bellal in Death to the Daleks (1974). Yarrow celebrated his 100th birthday in April and described himself as "frail but happy". He got thousands of well wishes from Dr Who fans, and is a bit bemused people still remember his career. Donald Pelmear (born 1924) - Professor Rubeish in The Time Warrior (1974), one of the many fun eccentric boffins in Who. Laurie Webb (born 1924) - Mr Ollis in The Three Doctors (1973) - there was some "isn't he dead?" talk on twitter a while back but then he showed up alive and well. Graham Rigby (born 1927) - Larry from The Dalek Invasion of Earth (1964), believed to be still with us. Well, he was when he was last interviewed for the DVDs. Derek Smith (born 1927) - the doorman from Human Nature (2007) - "Spare a penny?" "I didn't even spare you" - presumably DWM or the like would have mentioned if he'd died. Although it was a spot up from extra work, so if anyone dies without any noticing here... Georgine Anderson (born 1928) - one of the old lesbians in Gridlock (2007) - not sure if you were counting New Who. But then Thelma Barlow, so you must be... Steve Machin (born 1929) - but bit parts, and last acted in the 1980s, so another who could easily die off the radar. Patricia Prior - born 1929, Mrs Ollis in The Three Doctors (1973) - yes, they're both still alive, and Prior was known to be around a month ago. Shirley Cooklin - turned 90 in March 2020. Kaftan from Tomb of the Cybermen (1968) - Doing conventions in 2018, was alive for her 90th this year, retired a long time ago now but should get an acknowledgment of her death when she goes, if not a full QO (sorry Latham fans) Alan Curtis - Major Green from the War Machines. Still going, not as ill as I had thought (Parkinsons iirc) and turns 90th on the 30th July 2020. David Garfield (born 1930) - Neeva from Face of Evil, and Von Weich from The War Games. Still acting till relatively recently and doing fan stuff recently too. Lilias Walker (born 1930) - Sister Lamont from Terror of the Zygons. Went into obscurity after retirement but recently heard she was still going. John Rolfe (born around 1930) - Fell in The Green Death/Sam in The Moonbase. Another who vanished from the spotlight, but was alive last I heard. You have to assume a chap who touches on so many different online geekdoms would be noticed by someone somewhere if he died. Barbara Clegg - Not an actor but worth a mention, surely? The writer of Enlightenment turned 94 in March 2020. Wendy Danvers from Curse of Peladon is allegedly still alive at 93, but she's very much long out of the spotlight. John Greenwood - D'Artagnan from The Mind Robber - died in November 2018 according to some recent checks in The Stage. As an example of folk dying off the radar. Martin Cort is about this age and still runs his own website. Also I just heard in the last week that Gregg Palmer who played a Cyberman in The Tenth Planet is still around as imdb mixed up his records with an American actor who isn't related. He'd be about 94 now. See? This thing is forever changing thanks to research!

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Your maths are shit Sir Creep - 48 out of 3000 is 1.6% Your death rate as a proportion of the population is running at 198.3 per million. Germany (one of many examples I could have used) with a population of nearly 84 million has a death rate of 109 per million (so will have many massive cities with lower death stats than Lafayette parish). Keep taking the Tabasco...….

Richard Preddy, writer for Smack The Pony, Green Wing, The Fast Show and others died yesterday. No cause of death as yet, but his partner died of covid-19 back in April.

Ronald Schwary, an Oscar-winning producer and director whose work includes Ordinary People, Sabrina, Havana, and Random Hearts, has died at the age of 76.

Here’s the problem. In a normal election year, I think Trump would win easily, and in fact I was one of the ones who really didn’t want Biden to be the democratic nominee. I thought there was a good chance he’d bungle it (he still might bungle in the debates mind, but that’s besides the point). The strategy that Biden is doing is actually brilliant, ie hide most of the time and only come out when they need him. This way, people get the best impression of him while he’s not in the public eye. Look, I think most of us think Biden is pretty bad, but that doesn’t change the fact his strategy during a pandemic is a good one. One other thing about Biden, he’s not as hated as Hillary was. With a better approval rating than her, I think more people would vote for him. Here’s another issue though, Trump’s time in office was a disaster. The thing that made him win in 2016 was the fact that he was economically populist, but when you look at his record he was perhaps the most corporate, establishment politician of all time, just with a more unfiltered way than the typical politician (I actually think that would’ve been one of the things that helps him in 2016 because he doesn’t seem fake). He also, as you probably know, bungled the COVID-19 response. When 125 thousands lives are lost from something that honestly could’ve been more preventable, the people would turn on you. Let’s say for arguments sake though that the American people overlooked Trump’s very corporate record and his awful COVID response. The thing he’s more focused on this time during campaigning is the culture war. In his Mount Rushmore speech, he gave one of the most American Exceptionalist speeches of all time. Basically, he’s saying that America is already great. That is a direct repudiation of his 2016 slogan, ie Make America Great Again. Even with the bad record, the change in his campaigning is definitely hurting his case in November. And honestly, I don’t know if the populism would’ve worked this time around anyways. The American people I think just want someone who can soothe them during a time of crisis. Look, Biden is a massive favorite at this point whether you like it or not. And this is coming from someone who’s considering voting for a Third Party candidate. Things can certainly change, yes, but if Trump continues to bungle the COVID response and campaign on how America is already great, it’s just gonna be a recipe for disaster. One thing I do agree on though, anyone who looks at George W Bush fondly because of Trump needs to look themselves in the mirror. They’re both awful. Don’t normalize a war criminal, okay?

Jesus you completely looked over everything I've discussed. He is clearly a racist and he is clearly a dope that likes groping young children and women - but I guess thats your idea of 'manna from heaven'... And yes I'm sure you'd love GWB back, tell that to the families of the soldiers who died in Iraq. Just look into Joe Biden from any non-left wing source and you'll see what I am talking about...

If the word CUNT had a face, it would be the face of Kanye West. And if the word CUNT had an asshole, it would be the face of Donald Trump. I cannot think of a bigger pair of utter CUNTS.

You show very little understanding of US politics in that post if I may be so bold. Joe Biden has been a centrist throughout his career. He's always been popular among the unions that are vital to winning the rust belt in the Midwest that killed Hillary's chances 4 years ago. Sanders and Gabbard are vastly to the left of Biden - Sanders wants medicare for all and a green new deal. I don't know enough about Yang to comment. I think it's perfectly plausible that Trump wins again. I also don't think Biden was the strongest candidate this time around by a long way. But your argument seems to revolve around the Democrats being too left wing and out of touch with the American people, and then in the same breath suggest that Sanders and Gabbard are more in touch with the American people - seriously? This is a country that sees socialists in the same way as anarchists. There is also no way that Biden is more 'erratic, racist and stupid' than Trump. He was a longtime member of both the Senate Judiciary Committee and Senate Foreign Relations Committee, serving as Chairman of both and ranking member in between (when the Democrats didn't hold power). He was also Vice President for 8 years without serious incident. He has always had the ability to put his foot in it and has some very unhelpful views on race (as you'd expect from a nearly 78 year old white man) but his opponent promotes white supremacist content and has been recorded bragging about sexual assault. Compared to a competent politician, Biden comes some way down the list of desirable presidents (he barely got out of the starting gates on two previous runs for President) but compared to Trump, Biden is like manna from heaven, which is more a damning indictment of what Trump has done to the presidency than it is of what Biden brings to the table. Who'd have thought we'd look back on the days of Dubya with fondness?

Until quite recently I thought Frankie Banali was a mis-rendering of Francis Benali the ex-Southampton defender. Only heard of Draper and Zanardi. This is of course why I lose in the first round every year.

And as we have seen from the fact that no DDP pick has died of it since early April, the rich and famous are generally doing their best to avoid it (other than the odd idiot like Djokovic), and the ones who are dying are the poor and the workers who keep things going, but they won't get any headlines.

1) I asked members if they were interested in me doing that thread and quite a few responded yes 2) I’ve been putting a lot of original research into that thread as the info isn’t readily available online. The biggest contribution you make is cut and pasting stories about obscure ppl from your Google news feed. Take a fucking seat.

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