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Order – Placing, Name, YES vote, NO vote, Approval Rating SURVIVORS FROM PREVIOUS LISTS 32nd place – James Randi 8-14 -6 James Randi spent his life outing the Acorahs of the world. This forum would rather he stayed out of the DL. 31st place Louis Farrakhan 11-11 0 Farrakhan just snuck into neutral territory with the late batch of voters who went “oh everyone can have a YES except….” but we’ll get to that one. 30th place Ed Asner 12-10 +2 In the US he’s famous for the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Over here, he’s “oh that voice” for things like Toy Story. That disconnect explains his divide in approval, although it was by no means a straight Atlantic divide 29th place Peter Allis 13-9 +4 The cricket legend relied heavily on older voters. 28th place Cleo Laine 14-8 +6 Actor lovers, and the tag team of lovers of old Brits and old notable women (you all know who you are) gave Cleo a far better result than I thought she’d get. Joint 23rd place with 15-7 +8 David Prowse, Sandy Gall, Linda Nolan, Brian Wilson, Barbara Walters A number of folk who struggled at times. Brian Wilson got a lot of straight Nos, which surprised me. Sandy Gall did far better than expected. Barbara Walters was very close to a US/UK split. Joint 21st place with 16-6 +10 Frank Bough and Loretta Lynn Both had some detractors but are clearly quite popular. Just lost in the shuffle behind more popular picks. 20th place Nigel Lawson 17-5 +12 Hurt by non-UK voters not knowing who he was. Joint 18th place with 18-4 +14 Stanley Baxter and Joni Mitchell Solid support for the comic legend and the music legend. Joint 14th place with 19-3 +16 Ian St John, Gazza, June Brown, Larry King Perhaps surprisingly strong showings for 3 of these names given complaints at times. Joint 8th place with 20-2 +18 Sean Connery, Vanessa Redgrave, Mel Brooks, Ronnie Woods, Sidney Poitier, Jimmy Greaves I wont embarrass them by telling you the person who thought Sean Connery, the most Scottish man in the universe, was “some American actor”. Vanessa Redgrave did surprising well, which shows you this is about who deserves a DL spot, not necessarily who is best suited for one in 2020. Joint 2nd place with 21-1 +20 Olivia Newton John, Ozzy Osbourne, Jerry Lee Lewis, Pope Benedict, Queen Elizabeth II, Tina Turner So what I get from this is you lot love music heroes. Yes, I found remember the days of Benedict and Elizabeth’s duet on War Pigs with Ozzy. All of these will clearly return to the list before long. Top of the Survivors with A Unanimous Approval Rating of 22-0 and +22 Mikhail Gorbachev Shouldn’t have left the list, I agree. All Gorby All the time said the forum. WAS LISTED BUT DIED BEFORE THE DEADLINE (RIP) Carl Reiner had a score of 14-8 and approval of +6. Not bad at all, really, for someone in the shadow of a far more famous friend. And son. THE 39 LIVING PEOPLE ON THE 2020 DL Rock bottom spot - Bill Gates Sr 0-22 -22 It’s heartening to see such unanimity of opinion among the DL forum. No one voted in favour of Bill Gates Sr, not even his son signing in under a sock account. We might have a contender for general consensus worst DL pick ever, even if he snuffs it before January. Joint 37th spot with 11-11, equal, and 0 Alan Greenspan and Tom Smith Greenspan split between those into economics and those going “who is this guy?”. Tom split between those guy “no place on the list “ and those going “cancer plus reasonable notability = get them on the list” and that’s a near even split! 36th place – Bouteflika 12-10 +2 Forum seemed seemingly uninspired by this pick. Joint 33rd place with 13-9 +4 John Edrich, Bob Barker and Ruth Ginsburg Edrich harmed by no one having heard of them, Barker and Ginsburg harmed by the British voters being distinctly uninterested in them. Joint 31st place with 14-8 +6 Alex Trebek and General Musharraf Ditto Trebek but he bounced back late. Joint 29th place with 16-6 +10 Lester Piggott and Shane MacGowan Two “famous enough but not really room” type decisions. Joint 24th place with 17-5 +12 Dick Cheney, Joanne Woodward, Peter Sutcliffe, Leon Spinks, Tony Bennett An odd grouping. Some folk didn’t know who Cheney was. You lucky, lucky people. Ditto oanne Woodward, whose Oscar win has been forgotten, and Sutcliffe seemed to make people wonder if they wanted murderers on the list. But +12 is clearly an outright majority... Joint 21st place with 18-4 +14 Jacques Delors, Harry Belafonte and Akihito Not much to say here. A few dissenters but otherwise big votes. Joint 16th place with 19-3 +16 Prunella Scales, Imelda Marcos, David Crosby, Leslie Philips and Bob Dole Another group of big winners. Curious to see the big support for David Crosby. Dark horse for widespread forum approval. Folk wanted Imelda on the list for years, and Bob Dole is so well known over here even folk who voted no for most of the Americans voted yes to him. Bob Dole likes this. Despite questions over how long Pru has left, there’s no question about the forum’s view of her DL-ness... Joint 12th place with 20-2 +18 Angela Lansbury, Betty White, David Attenborough and Pierre Cardin Thumping big majorities for 4 legends. Well, maybe 3 and Mr Cardin. Lansbury and Attenborough got masse cross Atlantic support, and so nearly got unanimous votes. Betty White had two dissenters to her being a US star, but 20 YES votes from 22 is landslide territory. Joint 4th place with 21-1 +20 Murray Walker, Giscard d’Estaing, Henry Kissinger, Desmond Tutu, Jean Marie le Pen, Dick Van Dyke, Willie Nelson, and Olivia de Havilland Most of these just missed top spot by one person who hadn’t heard of them, or one person probably playing silly buggers in the case of Olivia. Kissinger seemed destined for joint top spot till late on. Surprisingly strong results for Dick van Dyke (might be healthy but his A list status isn’t in doubt), Giscard d’Estaing and Jean Marie le Pen. Also, look at Willie Nelson, only one NO vote in the entire thing. Stunningly strong. Joint 1st place with Unanimous Approval Ratings of 22-0 +22 Prince Philip, Jimmy Carter and Nobby Stiles The trio at the top went without a single negative vote. They are all A-listers, and if Nobby isn’t as famous (he’s not even the most famous England World Cup winner you heard about today), he’s still earned his place in the DL heart with his long survival against seemingly every dreaded illness under the sun. Jimmy Carter would fucking loved this approval rating back in 1980. As for Prince Philip, he just says: “Deathlist? If you all keep shouting at each other no wonder you are deaf!” Anyhow, that's the results. Enjoy. Or not.

Does that mean some big shits are on their way out?

I've genuinely sat here taking it for granted that Allis was a cricket commentator, which perhaps unintentionally shows his fame level in this house.

Jimmy and Rosalynn imploring americans to wear face masks with a picture of the two wearing ones themselves. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/11/politics/jimmy-carter-rosalynn-wear-mask-save-lives-trnd/index.html

You realise I'll be changing your name to Iain if you're wrong?

Judy Dyble scores for me, Jiroemon and GUN https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53382561

So this thread teaches not only are some of us either the Reaper or clairvoyant, but also not to use the loo until twenty minutes after Gooseberry in July!

I'm not a big fan of the old woofter's (not allowed to say that these days , am I. Sorry, sorry) tunes, but as I'm a sucker for rock autobios full of tittle tattle I'm currently enjoying 'Me'. While he was never at Keef levels of druggy debauchery, it's still surprising he made it through the 70s/80s if even half those anecdotes are true.

I found the 2014 source. Also came across the David Munrow forum online and found a thread on Brookes. He was definitely living in 2010 and from 2000–2008 had been playing with a group over in New York. Anyway, the implication is he then came back to the UK. Searched the GRO and Ancestry. Eventually found a birth and death record. Oliver Ernest Brookes b. May 1922 in West Bromwich, Staffordshire, d. 2015 (circa Feb) in Birmingham, aged 92. Punch this into Geni, and his family have the record there. Under occupation it says "musician". A pity such a prolific instrumentalist should die off radar but we've come to get used to it I suppose.

Judy Dyble definitely dead: https://www.bigbigtrain.com/

Thanks. Largely as expected. Surprised half the forum claims to have known who Tom Smith was 9 months ago.

Following Jack Charlton's death yesterday, an update to the score of the 1970 FA Cup final, which had stood at 3:3 for almost 2 years. Chelsea 4 : 5 Leeds (Houseman, Hutchinson, Osgood, Bonetti) (Bremner, Sprake, Madeley, Hunter, Charlton)

I'll say it again: he looks alright, all things considered. I wouldn't doubt that things could deteriorate quickly given his affliction, but for now, he continues to defy the odds.

The Trebek trash patrol was on duty again 2 days ago: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/12071394/alex-trebek-wears-jeopardy-shirt-as-he-battles-cancer/

No, you are confusing him with Dilip Kumar.

My dad at his first communion. He was Catholic, I am not. We didn't actually know this picture existed until last year as he was always very secretive about his childhood.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/15/us-embassy-apologises-after-mistakenly-sending-cookie-monster-cat-invitation

Jimmy and Rosalyn celebrate their 74th anniversary, making them the first former US President and First Lady to reach that milestone. https://people.com/politics/jimmy-and-rosalynn-carter-celebrate-74-years-of-marriage/

Star? The poor lad never played first team football for Forest, let alone was one of their star players. Hasnt even got a Wiki page. Tragic ending though.

I have never heard of her, or them, but it seems Alex Taylor of The Shop Assistants died in 2005 and it's only just been reported. https://www.backseatmafia.com/news-shop-assistants-singer-reported-to-have-died/

This is Glória Menezes, the Brazilian actress known for her work in soap operas.

This sounds like the classic "celebrity is on death bed but gets announced as dead by telephone whispers" case, a Ray Price. I give him until Friday.

Texas man dies at COVID-19 party, trying to prove coronavirus is a hoax. 'This is a party held by somebody diagnosed by the COVID virus and the thought is to see if the virus is real and to see if anyone gets infected,' said Methodist Healthcare Chief Medical Officer Dr. Jane Appleby https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8513431/Texas-man-30-dies-catching-coronavirus-COVID-party-thinking-virus-hoax.html