Deathray

Northern Ireland joining Ireland is an excellent thing why are you speaking about it negatively. Not sure you'll be saying the went the Ulster loyalists suddenly find their arsenals.they are on the wrong side of History. I am on the right side and with that Ireland must unite. I take it Ireland hasn't really moved on from the troubles in terms of mindset, even if you did put the weapons down at last.

Northern Ireland joining Ireland is an excellent thing why are you speaking about it negatively. Not sure you'll be saying the went the Ulster loyalists suddenly find their arsenals.

Would be a decent post if it wasn't based on suppositions ( Krankie has actually said the Independence referendum is 'on the table' which is serious back pedalling from yesterday) and the rest are factually bollocks. Can you actually see Northern Ireland going for reunification??????? FFS. I would bet a substantial money on Northern Ireland reunifying with Ireland, with a devolved regional parliament, in my life-time following the Brexit vote. Once they start feeling the economic effects of Bexit, the issue of are we British, are we Irish will be moot and the issue of can my kids have a good future in Ireland or Britain will matter much more. I have actually held off signing the 2nd referendum petition because if the result had been the other way round the Remainers would have been calling out Farage when he demanded it was too close. Before the event though I did say the result needed to be at least 54:46 to be comfortable. The trouble is if there is a second referendum there is going to be a feeling that they are saying Do it again until you get the right answer. I did see someone post something on Facebook saying "I am no longer going to call this Great Britain or the United Kingdom instead I am going to call it Cockwomble Land" I'm not signing it. If those restrictions were wanted in the vote they should have been made known before the vote. Everybody knew the requirements for yesterdays vote, the fact remain voters sat at home is one we need to live with. It should have been a super-majority of 66.6% required in my opinion, but retroactively changing a results legitimacy because you didn't like it isn't right. All possibly true, though I guess the referendum only sped up the processes that were already going on anyway. Since around 1880 the UK was in a process of decline. It looked like the process was stopped with the Thatcherite reforms, but it wasn't really true, because the price of London's increased share of global capital was the fragmentation of the British society, which has now resulted in the Brexit vote. And what did the UK gain with these reforms? Probably not much, since relatively static, more leftist France had a similar economic trajectory, and has now overtaken the UK. Being Norway wouldn't be that bad, though, I guess. Watch the country tear itself apart as UKIP win an election on a close our borders campaign claiming the official campaign lied about free movement. No thanks.

You've quoted me but just put the number 1? Mistake?

Ignoring the salty tossers calling for a re-run because they lost. We have a massive water-shed moment in the geo-political nature of the United Kingdom which is fast becoming a laughable name: Nicola Sturgeon will almost certainly call a second EU referendum before October 2018 Northern Ireland may hold a vote on the re-unification of Ireland or N. Ireland independence from the United Kingdom by 2020 Londoners are calling for an independent London city-state, that would rejoin the European Union and function like Singapore (imho go for it) Wales voted heavily to cut off their supply of money, meaning that Plaid Cymru's support will probably increase as they blame Westminster not devolved government, they're unlikely to want to cling to England when it gets left alone. The leave campaign have said that they aren't actually going to get rid of freedom of movement from the EU, or any of the trade regulations. Gibraltar are probably going to declare independence or join Spain. It reads like the nation background log for a game of nation-states. Well done Britain you've voted to become Norway and ruin your own domestic geo-politics. For the United Kingdom, 23rd June 2016 is going to be a catastrophically significant day in our history, the kind that's studied in depth after the next European war, it will replace the question "Why did the League of Nations fail?" in GCSE History exams.

Only 7 members? 7 members is enough for a reasonable discussion, especially on that topic. There's only 8 members online as I type this as such I suggest the thread in question be reopened.

My neice in Potsdam is seriously considering applying for German citizenship. Irish passport applications from people in Britain who've never set foot in Ireland are going to sky-rocket. There citizenship rules allow the child and grandchild of any Irish citizen to claim Irish citizenship. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/unusually-high-number-of-people-seeking-irish-passports-northern/

Are we facebook now. Duly ignored all requests for likes just to be sure in case we are.

Due to the 2011 thingymajiggy he'd need 2/3rds of parliament for election won't happen.

Do people think this will actually change all that much?

Before I gave up the gambling about six years back, I told everyone to put a £10 on Priti Patel being the next PM at odds of 66/1. She's 9/1 now. Priti Patel has been one of the most vile members of the leave campaign. Please anyone but her.I hope everyone is effing satisfied now. My whole life is now geared towards moving out of Britain.

EU voted out. Cameron resigned Sturgeon virtually calls Second Indy Ref Some Irish polticians discuss United Ireland vote (only a majority of those in NI would need to vote in favour) Motion of no confidence issued to Corbyn Bloody hell, definitely the most politically seismic 24 hours in modern history.

This has to be the biggest 24 hours in UK politics for a decade at least. I'm not celebrating until I know who's replacing him.

Never been so disappointment, angry and worried about a political result before. Just other half the country are idiots who'd vote for a recession in order to stop immigrants taking their jobs.

Leave 50.5 Remain 49.5 Despite claiming 60/40 would be the only way a remain vote could be accepted, Leave will claim that as a resounding victory.

Forget about them and the Greeks.

Which country do we think will be first to call their own referendum? I go Sweden if we don't leave, the Netherlands if we do are my guesses.

To be fair this is one of the few votes you can't really have one!

Just been across to my local polling station. Reports of very high turnout for the area, this a place that around 33.2% for the council ward in May and 54.9% for the general election constituency last year. It's also safe as you could ever imagine Labour on both counts, so the idea that this vote actually matters unlike that of the aforementioned polls is obviously one shared by a lot round area. The area is probably going to vote leave according to the polls as well. If this is replicated naturally we could be looking at a general election turnout in the 75-85 bracket.

I'm a remainer. Reluctantly

So Scotland let the side down by not turning up. 4 of 5 British Isles nations (I've probably offended some Irish even though I spent 5 minutes checking the correct term for both islands together) into the last 16. Sadly, that's as far as we can take 4 of 5 as Northern Ireland play Wales in another home nations clash. England and Rep. of Ireland can play in the last 8 if France and Iceland can be negotiated.

Knew it would be. Haven't watched most of it. FFS,

Czech Republic, Sweden and Netherlands all threatened to follow us out if you look at public opinion. Just tip of iceberg, Leave will be the beginning of the end for the European project.

Is the accepted wisdom that Remainers are less likely to turn out actually true, the majority are generally shit-scared of whats going to happen if we leave, so surely are just as likely to vote?

Turnout could be incredibly high tomorrow.