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Sadly she isn't the only celebrity with a slightly out-of-date personal website. Take Martin Crowe's website as an example that – as of 13 November – still reads: "[Martin Crowe] has bravely won his battle with cancer." http://www.martincrowe.com

Hmm "Mugabe (92) has already set his sights on the 2018 elections where he would be seeking yet another term in office despite his spectacular failure to fulfil promises he made in the previous elections." Do any of our resident experts hereabouts know the age of the oldest winner of a "democratic" election anywhere on Earth? Wikipedia has a list of the oldest serving term-bounded state leaders. Among them, only one, Hastings Banda of Malawi has ever been older than Mugabe, but he has lost his last, and arguably only democratic election in 1994. So Mugabe's last should be the record for a country leader. Among other office holders, Storm Thurmond (born 1902, died 2003) has served almost until he died (2002) as a Senator in the US Senate, last elected at the age of 93 in 1996. Woah, thanks Storm Thurmond can - probably - claim the most morally defensible democratic mandate in that company, eh? Well, senate elections in the US were reasonably democratic by the '90s, though some people could still point to his segregationist record as a senator (and Dixiecrat [think UKIP² of the late 40s US] presidential nominee) to question his moral character.

Hmm "Mugabe (92) has already set his sights on the 2018 elections where he would be seeking yet another term in office despite his spectacular failure to fulfil promises he made in the previous elections." Do any of our resident experts hereabouts know the age of the oldest winner of a "democratic" election anywhere on Earth? Wikipedia has a list of the oldest serving term-bounded state leaders. Among them, only one, Hastings Banda of Malawi has ever been older than Mugabe, but he has lost his last, and arguably only democratic election in 1994. So Mugabe's last should be the record for a country leader. Among other office holders, Storm Thurmond (born 1902, died 2003) has served almost until he died (2002) as a Senator in the US Senate, last elected at the age of 93 in 1996.

The way the American presidential elections work (i.e. the winner takes it all in each state) it wouldn't have made any difference at all if more young (liberal) voters had voted in the big cities. She could've won the popular vote by a larger margin, but it just doesn't matter. LA and SF are in California, Chicago is in Illinois, New York City is in New York. Not only could Hillary win in these cities and states, but she won by a comfortable margin. So no, most of the protesters could not have done anything to prevent a Trump presidency. (Well, except moving to the swing states in large numbers in time to register as a voter there.)

Yes i think Sydney Pollack was my first ever DDP hit. Hugo Chavez was actually a known cancer case that had been confirmed by the guy himself almost two years before he died. Unlike Val Kilmer, he didn't lie about the nature of the disease itself, he just claimed to have been cured (when he was not) in order to boost his reelection chances. (Just to travel to Cuba for treatment almost immediately after he was reelected.) Val's case can be more similar to that of Roger Ebert and Michael Douglas in that all three had severe head and neck cancers. Ebert has lost his chin and his voice during the years they were trying to cure him, but could still linger on for quite a long time. Or you could perhaps cite Steve Jobs, who did initially admit that he had cancer before his Whipple procedure, but was reluctant to provide info on his health when he relapsed.

No You'd have to drag those born at the turn of the century off their Play Stations and out of their minimum wage jobs which they're shit-scared of losing first. A big ask! Just as Obama was deeply hated by certain people (e.g. white supremacists, Tea Party fans etc.), so will certain segments of the population (illegal Mexicans, Chinese, liberals, Halibuts etc.) detest Trump. Among these minorities, Halibuts are certainly the most likely to act on their words, the others might protest and cry over his presidency, but unlikely to cause much trouble for him. But much will depend on what he'll actually do as a president.

I thought it had emerged that he had cancer. I will look for the source of that. Tabloids. He gave one of his last interviews to the New Yorker, and the journalist has revealed he had already been suffering from cancer when he visited him. I've already quoted the guy but forgot to give a link. http://www.thespec.com/whatson-story/6959756-leonard-cohen-was-in-deep-pain-caused-by-cancer/

She's always insisted that she had been born in 1924, but her biographer cited the earlier year (substantiated by official census records), according to the famously reliable Wikipedia. (Some other sources, like imdb also cite the earlier year.) As you can imagine, the income prospects of a 26-38 year old active actress might have been (and might still be) considerably worse than those of a 24-36 year old, cause that's how Hollywood works. Her first starring role came a little later than what would've been ideal, so she had the incentive to lie about her age. Not as if it'd matter that much anymore. She has retired from acting a long time ago, she is quite old now either way (regardless of whether she lied about her age), but you wouldn't get up-to-date info on her health from the press. Still, she would be an acceptable candidate for a theme team.

So, a swollen tongue, but no cancer? What is it, then? Just a "nasty pharyngitis spreading to the tongue?" (Now, pharyngotonsillitis does exist, but it would have been resolved in a few weeks max, instead of, dunno, years?) Seems like poor old Val is going down the Roger Ebert route, instead of being lucky, like his beloved friend, Michael Douglas. At this point, his denial is rather unconvincing, and I would be surprised if he didn't make an appearance on next year's list.

Not so surprising after his last album, his letter to Marianne and his last interview, although I must admit I could not foresee this just one year ago. I even went as far to diss a Guest arguing for his inclusion. Dear Guest, you were right, so please forgive me for being skeptical!

You think he'll make the starting line? It'd be a major blow to the CIA/FBI if they couldn't prevent his assassination. Also: as paradoxical as it might sound, Trump's Triumph might even be beneficial for Halibut extremists. If he delivers his promises, and tries to keep Syrian refugees outside the US and curb Halibut immigration, his Anti-Islam sentiments might help antagonize and radicalize the Halibuts already living in America.

Well, let's hope you are right. Yes, we know for a fact that his impaired speech is a sequela of the stroke he had 20 years ago, but it has also become a bit slower and even less comprehensible than in his AP interview from 2014: . And heck, compared to his current state, he looked like a spring chicken in 2011, able to stand, use his legs etc. On the other hand, his immobility, the blanket on his legs when others in the room are sporting sleeveless shirts (like the woman in the background on the photo) and the fact that he can hardly grip his notes are clear signs of arthritis and circulatory problems in his extremities. (Of course, that's not uncommon for nonagenarians). Celebrities like him can afford to hire a private physician and nurses, so he'd not need to check into a hospital unless he feels really ill.

Crikey both him and his wife look frailer than ever.Reckon 2017 will be the year both conk out Or possibly even before that. It's kind of premature that they celebrate his birthday more than two months in advance. I mean, it made some sense to link his birthday party to the celebration of the 95th anniversary of the Motion Picture and Television Fund, but still, it feels like they are (half-)expecting him to (maybe) cark it before his real birthday.

That's an interesting bit. You would have thought those 11 years must have been noticeable on the wedding photos or when she bore Eric at 39 (instead of 28) etc. I guess a QO can almost be taken for granted even for her, especially if she goes first (which seemed unlikely earlier, when she was assumed to have been born in 1930). What are the odds of she going first and then Kirk dying in 2 months of a broken heart? (Disclaimer: That's definitely not something I wish for, but sooner or later they'll die anyways.)

"Already doing better" is a euphemism for "feeling good, but will snuff it anyways" Could be, yes, it's only second-hand knowledge, not first-hand. Regardless of the source, advanced cancers might trick you into believing that you could beat them and then strike back even more vigorously. Poor Rob Ford might have already believed that he could win when his initial tumours had been successfully shrunk and resected, only to come back and kill him in like three months. Or we could also quote the poor Steve Hewlett: So even if Val thinks he is safe now, if his cancer really was stage 4 (like the one beaten by Michael Douglas), he might be in for an unpleasant surprise next year.

That's a bold claim for a dozen people that are almost all nonagenarians or cancer sufferers (and some might fit in both categories). If I were a member of the honourable committee, I'd struggle to drop the likes of Castro or the Greek Prince. Yes, they are not known to suffer from terminal illness, but either of them would be too big a name to miss. The same is true for Carter with the bonus that his cancer could return and kill him any day.

Well, according to him on the NY Times, he had a "polite but insidious form of leukemia" i.e. a relatively aggressive subtype/variant of CLL, which is normally indolent. It meant that he had to get treatment sooner than most CLL patients*, but he is still alive 5-6 years after being diagnosed, which means it wasn't that aggressive after all. Also: he was a bit of drama queen about it, which is kind of normal for a poet. *Where the type is ever mentioned, they always cite CLL, which as the name suggests is an incurable, chronic type of leukemia, unlike e.g. AML, which might be curable, but if not cured, would normally kill you sooner. http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/clive-james-reveals-battle-with-leukaemia-20110502-1e3xn.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1382299/Im-battling-leukaemia-reveals-broadcaster-Clive-James.html

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Think it depends on the type of cancer and what sort of treatment the patient receivesI reckon you are right. For example, you might expect a person suffering from pancreatic cancer (like Patrick Swayze or Steve Jobs) to lose a lot of weight before they cark it. OTOH, Clive James is suffering from an incurable but treatable (and normally not too agressive) type of cancer (Chronic Lymphocitic Leuk(a)emia) and two other incurable chronic diseases/conditions (emphysema and kidney failure). CLL might sometimes undergo a transformation & turn into a violent, aggressive type of leuk(a)emia, but may also allow patients to live for more than a decade (depending on its subtype and other factors). http://www.cancer.org/cancer/leukemia-chroniclymphocyticcll/detailedguide/leukemia--chronic-lymphocytic-signs-symptoms It might cause weight loss but it might also kill patients through enabling opportunistic infections. He's a bit of a dark horse, but he's probably good for a few more months. (Dying people don't usually eat too much, but he might not be at that stage just yet.)

You got me excited their for a moment. This is the wrong thread to post this kind of stuff sorry, should have included her name. I've done it nowJust thought it might be appropriate to post her death here what with Zsa Zsa being Hungarian and all For future reference:https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/7873-foreign-personalities-from-stage-screen-politics-and-life/ It could have been appropriate if Margit Bara had any connection to Zsa² Gabor, but I don't even know whether they knew each other in person. I'd consider that unlikely, since Margit Bara was born in Romania (Cluj), and she was living in Transylvania until 1955. (Northern Transylvania, including Cluj was temporarily annexed by Hungary in 1940-44.) By the time she started her career, Zsa Zsa had already left Hungary for the US. I reckon she was largely unknown outside Hungary, although she was fashionable there in the late 50s till the early 60s.

Never thought I'd ever feel bad for Jerry Lewis, srsly. Looks like he has a bit of trouble walking, but otherwise looks surprisingly healthy for a ninety year old. I mean, he is starring in a movie at 90 - he sure has a few more years in him.

Living Bhumibol's Prime Ministers: *Thanin Kraivichien (b. 1927), Prime minister from 1976 to 1977 *Prem Tinsulanonda (b. 1920), Prime minister in 1980 *Anand Panyarachun (b. 1932), twice Prime minister in 1991 and 1992 *Suchinda Kraprayoon (b. 1933), Prime minister in 1992 *Chuan Leekpai (b. 1938), twice Prime minister, from 1992 to 1995 and from 1997 to 2001 *Chavalit Yongchaiyudh (b. 1932), Prime minister from 1996 to 1997 *Thaksin Sinawatra (b. 1949) Prime minister from 2001 to 2006 *Chitchai Wannasathit (b. 1949), 2006 *Surayud Chulanont (b. 1943), 2006-2008 *Somchai Wongsawat (b. 1947), 2008 *Chaovarat Chanweerakul (b. 1936), 2008 *Abhisit Vejjajiva (b. 1964), 2008-2011 *Yingluck Sinawatra (b. 1967), 2011-2014 *Niwatthamrong Boonsongpaisan (b. 1948), 2014 *Prayut Chan-o-cha (b. 1954) From a deadpooling perspective, clearly the first two are the most interesting, but even among them the current regent might be the most lucrative candidate. Btw. he was a PM from 1980 until 1988 (that is a fairly long period in my book) and his obit chances are further boosted by his regency (especially, if Vajiralongkorn's ascendancy meets some opposition and if his coronation is delayed). Now Mr Prem Tinsulanonda seems more obitable than ever, BBC reports that the new king's coronation will be delayed for a whole year (until the end of a one-year mourning period). Until then, Prem Tinsulanonda is expected to remain regent, which at the age of 96 might be an exhausting experience. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37670834 This was announced by the Prime Minister (Gen Prayuth Chan-o-cha, 62), which suggests that it might not have been entirely the new king's own decision.

Living Bhumibol's Prime Ministers: *Thanin Kraivichien (b. 1927), Prime minister from 1976 to 1977 *Prem Tinsulanonda (b. 1920), Prime minister in 1980 *Anand Panyarachun (b. 1932), twice Prime minister in 1991 and 1992 *Suchinda Kraprayoon (b. 1933), Prime minister in 1992 *Chuan Leekpai (b. 1938), twice Prime minister, from 1992 to 1995 and from 1997 to 2001 *Chavalit Yongchaiyudh (b. 1932), Prime minister from 1996 to 1997 *Thaksin Sinawatra (b. 1949) Prime minister from 2001 to 2006 *Chitchai Wannasathit (b. 1949), 2006 *Surayud Chulanont (b. 1943), 2006-2008 *Somchai Wongsawat (b. 1947), 2008 *Chaovarat Chanweerakul (b. 1936), 2008 *Abhisit Vejjajiva (b. 1964), 2008-2011 *Yingluck Sinawatra (b. 1967), 2011-2014 *Niwatthamrong Boonsongpaisan (b. 1948), 2014 *Prayut Chan-o-cha (b. 1954) From a deadpooling perspective, clearly the first two are the most interesting, but even among them the current regent might be the most lucrative candidate. Btw. he was a PM from 1980 until 1988 (that is a fairly long period in my book) and his obit chances are further boosted by his regency (especially, if Vajiralongkorn's ascendancy meets some opposition and if his coronation is delayed).

"Degenerative neurological disorder" Probably a code for Alzheimer's?

Lizzy II is a much better candidate. She's in good health, had a mum who was a centenarian and she's still remarkably active. The only thing I don't know is whether Phil the Greek's death would erode her spirits. Bhumibol was long overdue, you could see the senile look in his eyes, he was wheelchair-bound, had renal failure and persistent lung problems --clearly he couldn't linger on for much longer.