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  2. Posted

    21 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

    Firstly, the king doesn't have "a" surgeon as such. Secondly, anything I've pinged to mango via DM is a false flag. I'm not about to give him any real details as he's a stranger on the internet at the end of the day. And he's just proven me correct to do so by blurting it out on here. I don't trust anyone on here. Journalist was true, but I wouldn't narrow it down beyond that, and I wouldn't give hints to who their source was.

     

    Well I knew as much, but thanks for confirming. :D

  3. Posted

    19/4/24

     

    71 Jeff Buckley — Hallelujah

    37 La Roux — In For The Kill 

    36 Adele — Chasing Pavements

    34 Jay-Z ft. Alicia Keys — Empire State Of Mind +4

    34 James Morrison ft. Nelly Furtado — Broken Strings -3

    33 Rihanna — Russian Roulette 

    30 Kings Of Leon — Use Somebody -3

    30 Taylor Swift — Love Story

    22 Britney Spears — Piece Of Me

    20 Sam Sparro — Black & Gold

    19 The Script — The Man Who Can’t Be Moved 

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  5. Posted

    2 minutes ago, mymango said:

    Ulitzer messaged me to say his source "came from a head of a newspaper who spoke directly with the King's surgeon".

     

    @Ulitzer95 why are you private messaging all these key details?! Making me look like a mug. If he hadn't mentioned your name, of course, he could have called you an 'unnamed source'. :rolleyes:

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  6. Posted

    Just now, mymango said:

    The idea that the King's surgeon would divulge private medical information to a guy at a newspaper, fully expecting him to keep his counsel, beggars belief, surely?

     

    So you think the King's surgeon is the only one who knows his prognosis? You don't think members of the household or, just maybe, his son might know? You don't think walls have ears and things are overheard? Loads of places the source could have come from. And it's still just a rumour.

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  7. Posted

    12 minutes ago, mymango said:

    Whatever. Just don't write him off. Look at how many times we've written Carter off.

     

    It's entirely possible he gets through this and you know that.

     

    And Ulitzer didn't write him off. He reported what he'd heard. Doesn't mean people don't beat bad diagnoses, but just changes the odds.

  8. Posted

    Just now, Ulitzer95 said:

    Ok. You just believe everything you read in the papers then. The controlled and censored media. 
    They never told us the Queen had bone cancer. They still haven't. They even omitted a proper cause from her death certificate.
    I don't know how gullible you need to be to not see that there's more going on.

     

    I agree and accept there could be more going on. It certainly fits with what happened with QEII. But, while they never confirmed she had cancer, it was clear she was slowing down and discussions started to get more morbid, although we maybe didn't believe it enough. Almost missing the Jubilee was a massive red flag in hindsight.

     

    I don't doubt the validity or veracity of your source, you have a great track record, but if he is worse than is being reported, I hope they don't keep secret until he's on his deathbed, that would be a terrible shock, especially if it's a year rather than 2. And I still hope you're wrong.

  9. Posted

    Just now, Ulitzer95 said:

    I'm going to be very careful as to what I write on here so as not to get anyone in trouble but I spoke to a senior journo over breakfast this morning – his source is impeccable. Really not good news about the king. May have a year left, 2 if he's lucky.

     

    And after waiting all that time. What a gut punch - literally. And poor William's got to deal with the potential loss of his father and the sudden and unexpectedly early arrival of his Kingship, all while his wife fights her own cancer battle. Hope you're wrong.

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  10. Posted

    Just now, Sod's Law said:

    Wouldn't chemo be almost a given if it has spread? Unlikely he would be walking around with any hair still on his head (or walking around much at all in public) if it had metastasised to any huge degree. 

     

    Unless he's so far gone that such treatment is pointless and it's all about making him comfortable for as long as possible? Seems very unlikely to me, I'd be inclined to agree with you, just playing devil's advocate, and after The Late Queen, who can say for sure?

  12. Posted

    5 hours ago, Drewsky1211 said:

    I think most people are downvoting Day 'n' Nite because of Crookers. I'm upvoting on virtue of the original song:

     

     

    It was the only one left I couldn't remember, so listened the other night and then I did. And I'm now frustrated I didn't vote a couple of hours ago and put it out of its misery because it's not one of the 4 best here IMHO, so I'd have got rid of it. Also, voting on it based on the original rather than the remix is slightly disingenuous as that's not what got to #1. Anyway, my votes!

     

    18/4/24

    71 Jeff Buckley — Hallelujah

    37 La Roux — In For The Kill 

    37 James Morrison ft. Nelly Furtado — Broken Strings 

    35 Jay-Z ft. Alicia Keys — Empire State Of Mind +2

    34 Adele — Chasing Pavements 

    33 Rihanna — Russian Roulette +2

    33 Kings Of Leon — Use Somebody 

    30 Taylor Swift — Love Story 

    26 Sam Sparro — Black & Gold 

    19 The Script — The Man Who Can’t Be Moved 

    16 Britney Spears — Piece Of Me 

    03 Kid Cudi vs. Crookers — Day ’n’ Nite -6

     

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  13. Posted

    5 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said:

    Michael Portillo was meant to be the shining knight for the Tory Party who was going to shake them up and make them a credible opposition to New Labour but he lost his seat on that night in 1997. Most people outside the Tory party thought that Ken Clarke was the sensible choice for leader (especially after Michael Heseltine's Heart Attack) but for the party he was too pro-European so they went with the untested William Hague (who might have made a good successor to one of the names above but he was plunged in too quickly) for these decisions they spent 13 years in opposition. However we don't know whether Clarke would have been able to put up a credible fight at the 2001 election which hardly saw any seats change hands from Labour to Conservative.

     

    As to members of the cabinet who elicit respect. The discussion around who will lead the party after the election does not throw up names that inspire confidence. A lot will depend on the size and make-up of the rump of Conservative MPs left and who would want the job. By saying Penny Mordaunt sounds like the best of a bad bunch is really just demonstrating how bad things are

     

    Sorry, realise I'm posting lots in a row but looks like I missed an interesting day of discussion! Catching up. Wonder if Portillo being seen as the 'heir apparent' in 1997  is the reason the 'Portillo moment' was so shocking? Not only had the Tories been hammered but the leader-in-waiting had lost a seat with a 15,000 vote majority. Clarke would have been such an improvement, but I don't think anybody was going to unseat Labour in 2001, they were still wildly popular. It all started to change in September that year, with 9/11 and Blair's obsession with backing up the US in the War on Terror.

     

    Agree Penny is the best of the bunch in my eyes, but when her opposition consists of Suella, Kemi, Priti and Grant, what's that saying?

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  14. Posted

    5 hours ago, msc said:

    Worth adding that we love a political narrative and the 92 narrative ignores that polling had become much kinder to the Tories under Major but was being ignored because obviously the Tories were going to lose. John Major was quite popular with the public even among those who disliked his government.

     

    As for Blair, a lot of 95/96 political news stuff has gone up on YouTube and it's an eye-opener. Leading Tories several times pointing out the polls can be wrong, they are hearing a different story on the doors, Tony Blair hasn't won over the public and Labour don't have any policies. I was getting deja vu watching. A lot of Tories legit thought the polling was wrong and that's been backed up to me by campaigners and candidates from the time. It also chimes with my admittedly childhood memories that Blair became popular after the election. But as with 1992 we like our narratives binary.

     

    I think now is worse because frankly many people respected Major, Ken Clark, Michael Forsyth, etc even as they voted them out. Who has genuine widespread respect in this cabinet? I always try to be fair and even then I'm struggling for names.

     

    This also chimes with the rumours of a Lab-Lib coalition in 1997 with Ashdown as Foreign Secretary. Surprisingly, all went quiet on that front with a majority of 179! :lol:

     

    As for the current cabinet, there's no one. All the decent ones were sacked or want nothing to do with the government and, in either case, are sat on the backbenches.

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  16. Posted

    Just now, TQR said:

    Shit! Who’s going to save the fucking West now?!

     

    Davy Crockett?

     

    Just now, Brad252 said:

    If something will bring down Truss, the history of ironic scandals in the Tory party means her downfall will be due to a bondage bombshell. 

     

    Nah, she's not that interesting.

  17. Posted

    17/4/24

     

    67 Jeff Buckley — Hallelujah

    37 La Roux — In For The Kill

    35 Jay-Z ft. Alicia Keys — Empire State Of Mind

    34 Adele — Chasing Pavements 

    33 Sam Sparro — Black & Gold

    33 James Morrison ft. Nelly Furtado — Broken Strings

    33 Kings Of Leon — Use Somebody 

    32 Rihanna — Russian Roulette +4

    28 Taylor Swift — Love Story

    23 Michael Jackson — Man In The Mirror

    21 The Script — The Man Who Can’t Be Moved

    12 Kid Cudi vs. Crookers — Day ’n’ Nite

    09 Britney Spears — Piece Of Me

    07 The Saturdays — Just Can’t Get Enough -6

    06 Leona Lewis — Happy  

  19. Posted

    4 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

    They are debating the smoking ban in the Commons.

     

    Cannot wait for 20 years hence when 35 year olds are asked to provide ID at the shops.

     

    Nanny fucking State.

     

    We'll see what happens and I don't deny it may be hard to enforce, but from a personal standpoint, I couldn't care less. I've never smoked a cigarette in my life and was part of the first generation of uni students where smoking was banned in public places. It's becoming a thing of the past, and this will, presumably, further that objective. Vapes are the bigger issue now and God knows where that goes. Is it hypocritical? Probably. But I'm not fussed. Plus Liz Truss is speaking up in opposition of this, so I know I'm on the right side of it.

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  20. Posted

    16/4/24

     

    63 Jeff Buckley — Hallelujah

    36 Adele — Chasing Pavements 

    36 Michael Jackson — Man In The Mirror

    31 Kid Cudi vs. Crookers — Day ’n’ Nite

    31 James Morrison ft. Nelly Furtado — Broken Strings

    30 La Roux — In For The Kill

    29 Kings Of Leon — Use Somebody 

    29 Sam Sparro — Black & Gold

    28 Taylor Swift — Love Story

    28 Rihanna — Russian Roulette

    27 The Script — The Man Who Can’t Be Moved

    27 Jay-Z ft. Alicia Keys — Empire State Of Mind +4

    21 Leona Lewis — Happy

    20 The Saturdays — Just Can’t Get Enough

    09 T.I. ft. Rihanna — Live Your Life 

    05 Britney Spears — Piece Of Me

    05 The Saturdays — Forever Is Over -6

    3 The Noisettes — Don’t Upset The Rhythm (Go Baby Go)

     
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  22. Posted

    Number 10 Eid Celebrations Plan

    1. Announce annual Eid Celebration reception at Downing Street.

    2. Hear that several people and groups are planning to boycott reception due to response to Gaza.

    3. Get Lord Cameron to insist people should go and engage with the government.

    4. Talk about how much you're looking forward to hosting the reception and discussing the issues.

    5. Wimp out of attending your own half-attended Eid reception claiming "business in parliament" made it impossible, making mugs of those prepared to meet you halfway.

     

    Rishi Sunak everybody! :clap:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68818484

     

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  23. Posted

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    Posting this as it popped up on Facebook. If I'm right, that's this Saturday's Times under his arm, so would back up the "very recent pic" description. Still walking to the shop, not sure he's changed much since the last pics? He sure likes that red waistcoat!

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  24. Posted

    Donald Trump supporter (woman) on the 6 O'Clock news saying if he's put in jail, millions of people will grab their guns and we'll have a civil war. Genuinely got to the stage where I said out loud "go right ahead love, we'll kill every fucking one of you". Sick to the back teeth of his bullshit and how people will work against their own self interests to enable him. It's a total messiah complex and it's not just dangerous it's insane. :angry: (Oh, and no, I'm not American, so I can't take part in a civil war, but would it really remain civil in that situation?)

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  25. Posted

    4 hours ago, Toast said:

    They're dragging us into a war, which will be an excuse not to have an election.

     

    It'll never happen in a million years. Unless open war was declared on the UK before January (which I cannot see happening) then there has to be a general election. And even if we were at war, it would require an Act of Parliament to suspend the election for another year (which would need renewing every 12 months) and there is no way, unless in the direst of circumstances, that Parliament would agree to that. It needs 26 Tory MPs to vote with the opposition to defeat the government, and there's way more than that standing down in the next 6 months who would kibosh a delay, not to mention those rare creatures "Tories with a moral compass" who would see it as the shameless power grab it would be. It's not going to happen. Sooner or later, Sunak the Squatter will have to face the music and give us a say on his party's decade-and-a-half in power.

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