Wormfarmer

. . . . so if you win you did it without even trying.

My list just PM'd to Captain Cho!

Good question from an analytic mind. I can do several things in this case. I think I will elaborate on the rule to say: this type of sabotage is legal. Solos, duos and trios are scored as such at the time of the hit. Someone who has success with a solo can play the sabotage game, but at some risk since it is likely that names that are sparsely picked are also probably less likely to hit. So you may be spiting your own face to cut off another players nose. And I am still smarting over that late comeback in the DeathCup!

Game is on - 12 entries received. Bibliogryphon needs a replacement for a duplicate name - George Alagiah. UPDATE: After 4 hits in the first month, things turned ice cold and we have gone over 30 days without a single hit. Soooo. . . Game Over. The format did not produce the long term game that I had imagined. I am surprised that such a list of 76 aged and infirm folk can all survive a month and put an early end to this game. My personal situation has gotten complicated with an illness in the household so I have not been a very active participant on the site and maybe this is for the best for me right now anyway. The hardest nut to swallow is that our Champion is Joey (random) Russ, with 72 points. Not that I don't love the guy, but his entry was just a random generated list. Time should have let the cream of the crop rise to the top, but a couple of lucky high scores right off the bat gave the lead to Joey's box of tea leaves and then the current derth of death conspired to allow him to hang on to it. That's the way the banana drops sometimes, I guess. Nobody scored more than 2 hits, and there were no solos, duos, or even trios. Congrats to Joey, and I am sorry that this did not turn out to be a more exciting contest. 2nd place goes to Chilean Way, with 62, and 3rd goes to Bibliogryphon, at 38 pts. Thanks everyone who played. 30 27 62 2nd Place 24 38 3rd Place 10 wormfarmer captain chorizo Chilean way theoldlady bibliogryphon the old crem 40 yoo sang-chul 40 tom smith 40 prince philip 40 jimmy greaves 40 dilip kumar 40 vera lynn 39 killer tim brooks 39 susan bayh 39 beverly cleary 39 peter tobin 39 beverly cleary 39 jimmy greaves 38 tom smith 38 killer tim brooks 38 earl cameron 38 tom smith 38 willie nelson 38 joanne woodward 37 frankie banali 37 david gulpilil 37 olivia dehavilland 37 placido domingo 37 leon spinks 37 barbara windsor 36 susan bayh 36 alex trebek 36 vera lynn 36 ruthie tompson 36 david gulpilil 36 alex trebek 35 alex trebek 35 yoo sang-chul 35 alex trebek 35 prince philip 35 jimmy greaves 35 olivia newton-john 34 lee kerslake 34 ruthie tompson 34 bill turnbull 34 david gulpilil 34 vera lynn 34 john r lewis 33 david gulpilil 33 frankie banali 33 david gulpilil 33 alex trebek 33 william h gates 33 angela lansbury 32 george alagiah 32 prince philip 32 george shultz 32 june brown 32 bob barker 32 june brown 31 placido domingo 31 jimmy greaves 31 stirling moss 31 dilip kumar 31 cleo laine 31 lee kerslake 30 olivia newton-john 30 vera lynn 30 henry kissinger 30 killer tim brooks 30 bob dole 30 jimmy carter 29 john r lewis 29 mikhail gorbachev 29 clarissa eden 29 larry king 29 desmond tutu 29 prince philip 28 bob barker 28 bob barker 28 luis echeverria 28 leon spinks 28 joanne woodward 28 larry king 27 bob dole 27 luis echeverria 27 george alagiah 27 bob dole 27 luis echeverria 27 george alagiah 26 jean louis trintignant 26 bob dole 26 angela lansbury 26 jimmy carter 26 prince philip 26 loretta lynn 25 william h gates 25 jimmy carter 25 jimmy greaves 25 shane macgowan 25 tom smith 25 ruthie tompson 24 dilip kumar 24 stirling moss 24 nobby stiles 24 stirling moss 24 peter sutcliffe 24 barbara walters 23 leslie phillips 23 john r lewis 23 tom smith 23 susan bayh 23 clarissa eden 23 leon spinks 22 luis escheverria 22 beverly cleary 22 leslie phillips 22 frankie banali 22 jill gascoine 22 desmond tutu 21 barbara walters 21 peter tobin 21 little richard 21 willie nelson 21 leslie phillips 21 nobby stiles 20 jill gascoine 20 june brown 20 willie nelson 20 nobby stiles 20 peter tobin 20 olivia newton-john 19 leon spinks 19 olivia dehavilland 19 leon spinks 19 olivia dehavilland 19 alex trebek 19 tina turner 18 emperor akihito 18 roger angell 18 john r lewis 18 leslie phillips 18 john r lewis 18 bill turnbull 17 norman lloyd 17 lee kerslake 17 tony bennett 17 john r lewis 17 loretta lynn 17 george shultz 16 ruthie tompson 16 david attenborough 16 bob dole 16 ruth bader ginsburg 16 stirling moss 16 tom smith 15 earl cameron 15 george shultz 15 frankie banali 15 yoo sang-chul 15 betty white 15 vanessa redgrave 14 lester piggott 14 dilip kumar 14 william h gates 14 luis escheverria 14 greg gilbert 14 susan bayh 13 prince philip 13 leslie phillips 13 ruthie tompson 13 olivia newton-john 13 olivia newton-john 13 beverly cleary 12 ed asner 12 william h gates 12 lester piggott 12 beverly cleary 12 prunella scales 12 jacques delors 11 carl reiner 11 leon spinks 11 barbara windsor 11 peter sutcliffe 11 barbara windsor 11 mikhail gorbachev 10 jerry stiller 10 barbara walters 10 jerry stiller 10 jacques delors 10 george alagiah 10 betty white 9 nobby stiles 9 clarissa eden 9 murray walker 9 lee kerslake 9 nobby stiles 9 clarissa eden 8 jimmy greaves 8 pierre cardin 8 june brown 8 george alagiah 8 sidney poitier 8 jill gascoine 7 joanne woodward 7 greg gilbert 7 david attenborough 7 mikhail gorbachev 7 barbara walters 7 henry kissinger 6 dick cheney 6 jean louis trintignant 6 ruth bader ginsburg 6 loretta lynn 6 harry belafonte 6 norman lloyd 5 loretta lynn 5 norman lloyd 5 larry king 5 david crosby 5 murray walker 5 yoo sang-chul 4 beverly cleary 4 prunella scales 4 norman lloyd 4 earl cameron 4 tina turner 4 stiling moss 3 henry kissinger 3 little richard 3 jimmy carter 3 murray walker 3 george alagiah 3 murray walker 2 sidney poitier 2 sidney poitier 2 pierre cardin 2 greg gilbert 2 olivia dehavilland 2 little richard 1 jimmy carter 1 jacques delors 1 olivia newton-john 1 barbara walters 1 june brown 1 billy connolly 10 72 CHAMP 16 23 1 0 deadsox joey random yvonne toast annami death by arsenic 40 john r lewis 40 jill gascoine 40 ruthie tompson 40 leslie phillips 40 prince philip 40 ed asner 39 susan bayh 39 norman lloyd 39 alan greenspan 39 alex trebek 39 ruthie tompson 39 henry kissinger 38 frankie banali 38 dick cheney 38 angela lansbury 38 prince philip 38 vera lynn 38 barbara windsor 37 killer tim brooks 37 william h gates 37 barbara walters 37 henry kissinger 37 tom smith 37 jimmy greaves 36 alex trebek 36 mikhail gorbachev 36 norman lloyd 36 joanne woodward 36 alex trebek 36 jacques delor 35 david gulpilil 35 dilip kumar 35 beverly cleary 35 leon spinks 35 norman lloyd 35 ozzy osbourne 34 lee kerslake 34 ozzy osbourne 34 olivia dehavilland 34 nobby stiles 34 peter tobin 34 lee kerslake 33 ruthie tompson 33 killer tim brooks 33 vera lynn 33 ruthie tompson 33 earl cameron 33 leslie phillips 32 yoo sang chul 32 little richard 32 earl cameron 32 larry king 32 frankie banali 32 linda nolan 31 dilip kumar 31 ruthie tompson 31 bob barker 31 earl cameron 31 susan bayh 31 killer tim brooks 30 earl cameron 30 cleo laine 30 bob dole 30 prunella scales 30 david gulpilil 30 imelda marcos 29 george alagiah 29 dick van dyke 29 cleo laine 29 bill turnbull 29 jean louis trintignant 29 bob barker 28 norman lloyd 28 angela lansbury 28 david attenborough 28 bob barker 28 beverly cleary 28 bob dole 27 prince philip 27 joanne woodward 27 desmond tutu 27 vanessa redgrave 27 lee kerslake 27 cleo laine 26 nobby stiles 26 paul gascoigne 26 jimmy carter 26 murray walker 26 jimmy carter 26 david crosby 25 tom smith 25 emperor akihito 25 clarissa eden 25 yoo sang-chul 25 dilip kumar 25 ruthie tompson 24 greg gilbert 24 lee kerslake 24 dick cheney 24 betty white 24 bob dole 24 yoo sang-chul 23 jean louis trintignant 23 luis echeverria 23 june brown 23 jerry stiller 23 pierre cardin 23 vera lynn 22 peter tobin 22 clarissa eden 22 dick van dyke 22 george alagiah 22 joanne woodward 22 tom smith 21 bob dole 21 earl cameron 21 george shultz 21 ozzy osbourne 21 roger angell 21 susan bayh 20 beverly cleary 20 david attenborough 20 ed asner 20 killer tim brooks 20 mikhail gorbachev 20 prince philip 19 jimmy greaves 19 jimmy greaves 19 emperor akihito 19 tony bennett 19 henry kissinger 19 placido domingo 18 ruth bader ginsburg 18 barbara walters 18 harry belafonte 18 luis echeverria 18 george alagiah 18 greg gilbert 17 jimmy carter 17 vanessa redgrave 17 imeld marcos 17 william h gates 17 leon spinks 17 peter sutcliffe 16 joanne woodward 16 leslie phillips 16 jerry stiller 16 peter sutcliffe 16 dick cheney 16 jimmy carter 15 bob barker 15 carl reiner 15 prince philip 15 greg gilbert 15 jimmy greaves 15 dick van dyke 14 vera lynn 14 murray walker 14 jimmy greaves 14 loretta lynn 14 shane macgowan 14 david gulpilil 13 olivia dehavilland 13 george shultz 13 joanne woodward 13 shane macgowan 13 vanessa redgrave 13 alex trebek 12 emperor akihito 12 peter tobin 12 larry king 12 olivia newton-john 12 lester piggott 12 betty white 11 peter sutcliffe 11 ruth bader ginsburg 11 betty white 11 olivia dehavilland 11 imelda marcos 11 george shultz 10 stirling moss 10 pierre cardin 10 luis echeverria 10 tina turner 10 yoo sang-chul 10 emperor akihito 9 luis echeverria 9 larry king 9 leslie phillips 9 dilip kumar 9 bob barker 9 lester piggott 8 dick cheney 8 imelda marcos 8 lester piggot 8 jimmy carter 8 larry king 8 norman lloyd 7 mikhail gorbachev 7 alan greenspan 7 carl reiner 7 roger angell 7 sidney poitier 7 sidney poitier 6 desmond tutu 6 bob barker 6 pierre cardin 6 mikhail gorbachev 6 clarissa eden 6 prunella scales 5 dick van dyke 5 susan bayh 5 mikhail gorbachev 5 jimmy greaves 5 carl reiner 5 cleo laine 4 barbara walters 4 john r lewis 4 murray walker 4 vera lynn 4 cleo laine 4 bill turnbull 3 olivia newton-john 3 jimmy carter 3 henry kissinger 3 cleo laine 3 emperor akihito 3 olivia dehavillan 2 clarissa eden 2 nobby stiles 2 ruth bader ginsburg 2 beverly cleary 2 loretta lynn 2 carl reiner 1 roger angell 1 betty white 1 sidney poitier 1 dick cheney 1 little richard 1 vanessa redgrave

List of 80: names from 2020 and 2019 Deathlist (50) 2020 Derby Drop 40 (14), my picks (16) alan greenspan dilip kumar june brown peter tobin alex trebek earl cameron killer tim brooks pierre cardin angela lansbury ed asner larry king placido domingo barbara walters emperor akihito lee kerslake prince philip barbara windsor frankie banali leon spinks prunella scales betty white george alagiah leslie phillips roger angell beverly cleary george shultz lester piggott ruth bader ginsburg bill turnbull greg gilbert linda nolan ruthie tompson billy connolly henry Belafonte little richard shane macgowan bob barker henry kissinger loretta lynn sidney poitier bob dole imelda marcos luis escheverria stirling moss carl reiner jacques delors mikhail gorbachev susan bayh clarissa eden jean louis trintignant murray walker tina turner cleo laine jerry stiller nobby stiles tom smith david attenborough jill gascoigne norman lloyd tony bennett david crosby jimmy carter olivia deHavilland vanessa redgrave david gulpilil jimmy greaves olivia newton-john vera lynn desmond tutu joanne woodward ozzy osbourne william h gates dick cheney john prine paul gascoigne willie nelson dick van dyke john r lewis peter sutcliffe yoo sang-chul

Thanks for catching that Quim, I was just going through this list and wanted to give a shoutout to theoldlady for that one, since it was a year and a half of effort and she withstood 17 strong players including yourself, Capn Cho, Joey Russ, Clorox, msc, Sir Creep, GUN, Skinny Kiltrunner and many others for that title.

Hey gang, I am back in the game and looking for a new pool to enter and stumbled here - - not too late to get in?? However, I can't seem to find some of the basics like scoring and when it ends, etc. What'd I miss? I see the list of names that the host posted early on page 1, but the entries don't seem to stick to that list for long (plus it is a rather short list to pick from) so I am assuming it is free research to get your names? Sorry coming in late with questions but where is the outline of the rules? Here is my list for fun if I am too late to officially enter: 1. Ruthie Tompson 2. Daisy Loongkoonan 3. Eileen Whelan Ash 4. Renee Simonot 5. Pierre Soulages 6. Viola Smith 7. Roberta McCain 8. Boris Pahor 9. Robert Marchand 10. Beverly Cleary 11. Norman Lloyd 12. Vance Trimble 13. Everett Lee 14. Carl J. Shapiro 15. James Lovelock subs: Earl Cameron, Marsha Hunt

EFFFFFF me . . . . . . I had a decent April team all ready to go. But I probably wouldn't have lasted long anyway as I have a hunch there is some celebrity virus website that I don't know about that everyone else is subscribed to. Nice comeback, Willz. Suppose I should send in my "just in case" team anyway, and then follow along at home to see how I would have fared.

Yes, he's alive. I just saw him kick Rodan's ass in "Godzilla: King of the Monsters" last week.

My team just went PM as well. After that big day for supergeezers on Feb 24th (3 on my watchlist), I almost wanted to go with an all supergeezers team. But that probably won't happen again for awhile.

Joey, just went to your profile and sent you a message which included my round 1 team. Seems last time I did that in another pool I messed it up somehow and posted to somewhere I didn't even know existed. I still don't know what the hell I did there. I am mentioning it in the case that you don't get it I want to have time to try it again before the deadline. Thanks for checking.

Here are the rules for a new survivor style pool I would like to try out: I will post at the start, a list of roughly 60 of the usual suspects in the deadpooling game (names like Leah Bracknell, George HW Bush, etc) It will include some surviving names from the drop 40 from the Derby DP, plus a selection of others that I see circulated about in deadpools. It will not necessarily include everyone on your favorite list - - so don't fuss if there is a big name not there that you expect will not last until tomorrow (you wouldn't want to pick that name anyway). At the start of the pool, each player must select 10 names from this master list. Your first name is worth 10 pts if they die and your last name is worth 1 pt. Of course with the word "Inverse" in the title of the pool, your goal is to select 10 people who will survive the month. You do NOT want to score, you want to get out of the month with a zero. The player with the highest score after the first month is ELIMINATED and the rest of us move on to month two, again selecting 10 NEW names off the master list, which I may (or may not) update to replace any names that died (or any that miraculously have recovered from whatever malady they had the month before). You cannot select any name in consecutive months. Again we will eliminate the highest scoring player at the end of month 2. In month 3, you may use up to 5 names from month 1 (and no names from month 2) to make your new list. In month 4, all names from month 1 are fair game, but only 5 from your month 2 list, and so on. We proceed like this until we get down to the championship match, mano a mano for the title, which I intend to make happen in Dec of 2019. That's it in a nutshell. If you are still interested, here are a few finer details: For an inverse pool, there needs to be a penalty of sorts for players that delay getting their teams in. Otherwise, this is of obvious advantage while the rest of us are risking a big score. So once the month starts, if there is a death any player without a list will be subject to 3 point penalty PLUS the value of the highest hit scored by an active list. This applies even if no active list contains the dying name (late submitter gets 3 pts) A second death on the master list earns the same penalty, and so on, until a team is submitted. So late is not good, it could eliminate you fast. You may submit your team at any time prior to the end of the month to avoid these potential penalties. To further separate late entries from each other, beginning on the 5th of the month, a point is scored for each day a list is not submitted. This penalty is in addition to the +3 pts penalty. This allows someone who submits a team a week late to still beat someone who submits 2 weeks late (or not at all), and eliminates someone even if there are no deaths for the month. This rule was proposed on page 6 of the thread and received no negative comments so I am implementing it starting in Feb. If a pick dies before the start of a round, a replacement may be added - AT THAT SAME SPOT. Lists can not be reordered to accommodate the new name. Ties may be common. There are several ways in which we will break them: If we have a month where NO TEAM scores a hit (hopefully unlikely, but sometimes it gets slow . . . ), all lists will carry on into the next month, no changes allowed. The following round will add an extra elimination - the two highest scores will be gone. NEW RULE ADDITION: I may specify, for a given month, that previously earned points that did not lead to elimination from the game, may be used as tiebreakers OR in scoreless months to create eliminations. In the early rounds, if two or more players end the month with the highest score, we will back up to the previous month and look at their scores. If that doesn't break all ties, we will carry forward one month, and those two (or more) teams will go head to head to see who stays and who goes home. We will carry those head to head matches into a third month if needed, at which point it will become sudden death = the first one of those teams to score any hit will be eliminated. In the later rounds, say when we are down to 6 players or less, we will back up to the previous month and look at the head to head scores, then if still tied, we will go straight to sudden death. If I get a lot of entries, I will need a way to cut the field down faster to keep my goal of ending in Dec 2019. So there may be months where all tied players may be eliminated. I also may select certain months (say this Dec, and Jun 2019) and indicate those as multiple elimination months, even if there are no ties. Later rounds I may require teams to bulk up to 20 names per month, to help insure that we keep getting hits and eliminations each month. Be advised this pool will require a monthly effort to submit a team and last up to 16 months, depending on the number of entries (and how good you are). So please do not sign up if you know you are going to bail out after a month or two. 11 players indicated interest, 10 of those submitted teams, plus another 7 late comers = 17 players for the inaugural edition of this DP. Welcome to theoldlady, Mad Hatter, The Unknown Man, Skinny Kiltrunner, Quim Reaper, Bibliogryphon, msc, Grim Up North, Sir Creep, En Passant, John Key, Captain Chorizo, Clorox Bleachman, Joey Russ, paddyfool, QTips and Wormfarmer. One of us will be the grand champion at the end of next year. And one of us will bear the shame of being the first team eliminated at the end of Sept. (goodbye John Key) Here is the list of names in play which will be edited and updated for each subsequent round: Leah Bracknell (died sep/oct), Kirk Douglas, G H W Bush (died nov), Prince Philip, Clive James, Olivia deHavilland, Vera Lynn, Beverly Cleary, Herman Wouk (may), Norman Lloyd, Robert Mugabe, Doris Day (May), Nobby Stiles, Jimmy Carter, Fernando Ricksen, Greg Gilbert, Linda Nolan, Jill Gascoine, Marieke Vervoort, Devin Lima (died nov), Prunella Scales, Simon Ricketts (died dec), Leslie Phillips, Jimmy Greaves, Denis Norden (died Sept), Henry Kissinger, Queen E II, Le Duc Anh (apr), Genesis P-Orridge, Jose Jose, Pete Frates, I M Pei (may), Katherine Johnson, Sheila Mercier, Lucia Hiriart, Sumner Redstone, Bob Dole, Carol Channing (Jan), Bob Barker, John Paul Stevens (jul), Dilip Kumar, Kenny Rogers, Norman Lear, Pierre Cardin, Yasuhiro Nakasone, Al Jaffee, Javier Perez de Cuellar, Luis Escheverria, John Cruickshank, Hugh Downs, George Shultz, Carl Reiner, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Ric Flair, Don Lusk (dec), Richard A. Overton (dec). Added for Round 2 (Oct) Kane Tanaka, Pope Benedict XVI, Roberta McCain, Sachen Littlefeather, Valerie Harper (aug) Added for RD 3: John Mccririck (jul) No new names added for RD 4. Added for RD 5 : Jean Louis Trintignant, George Alagiah, Andrew McGahan (feb), Jerry Stiller, Tim Conway (may), Kathleen Blanco (aug), Olivia Newton-John, Johnny Clegg (jul) No new names added for RD 6. No new names added for RD 7 (apr). May is a carryover month and no new names added. Added for June: Micah Bowie, Sam Lloyd, Lee Kerslake, Clarissa Eden. No new names added until the final round, see post on page 13. Elimination history: Our first to (embarrassingly) hit the road is John Key, who had 4 pts for Denis Norden. Rd 2 eliminations are The Unknown Man and Mad Hatter, neither of which ever submitted a valid rd 2 team. Skinny Kiltrunner eliminated in Rd 3 with 3 pts scored for Richard A Overton. Simon Ricketts also passed with no one having him in Dec. Quim Reaper is our Rd 4 elimination with only 1 hit for 2 pts: Carol Channing. Joey Russ had earned one pt for his late entry, but barely survives thanks to Miss Channing. Andrew McGahan dies on Feb 1, but does not appear on any roster. However, late rosters have now incurred the 3 pt penalty. The lateness penalty (and a severe case of apathy), claims Sir Creep in RD 5. He exits the game with 6 pts. Clorox (5) and Capn Cho (3) breathe a sigh of relief that someone was later than they were. 11 clever, talented, smart little children remain! No scores in March, so no eliminations! April will be a double elimination round (Top 2 scorers will both go home). Le Duc Anh passes in April but doesn't appear on any current lists. Another scoreless month as the drought continues. Will Kirk Douglas become the oldest living man in the history of the earth?? Cripes I can't believe no one in this group of black bananas has dropped off the tree in over 2 months. Plan on seeing some new names for June, whether we have much scoring or not. Also see the new rule above regarding using previously earned pts as tiebreakers and in non scoring months (above in red). Finally! Doris Day gets fed up with all the stagnation and decides to spice things up around here! 5 teams score pts, with Joey Russ, Clorox, and Qtips now on the bubble. Still time for thinks to change again, which I feel they shall . . . . Herman Wouk and I M Pei both die to close out the month, but our contestants are all too smart and wily to have either of them on their list, so the standings do not change . . . . John Paul Stevens goes in July, but everyone is (very surprisingly) too smart to put him on a list. Johnny Clegg and John McCririck however cause some damage . . . . Aug gives us two late month hits: Kathleen Blanco who no one touches, and Valerie Harper who sends en passant packing, due to his 3 point late penalty which breaks an otherwise tie with paddyfool. Things progress to only five alive . . . . . .

(Edit: 25 entries were received prior to Jan 15th, the start of the game. The game is now closed to new entries. The monthly table is onerous enough as it is. ) Before entering this pool consider that it will take a bit more work throughout the year than most pools, kind of like managing a fantasy sports team. This is a tournament of 12 rounds, each lasting a month (except the first round which will be shorter), with a cumulative score at the end determining the winner. The first year tournament went to a playoff and was won by GCreptile (over Captain Chorizo), after scoring 27 points during the regular game. If you played last year please read through the rules anyway as there are changes to hopefully improve and simplify it. The game: Submit your monthly TEAM - a list of 5 names. (The following is a rules update that takes effect starting with the Feb teams.) If your list is fresh, meaning your names are the first to be posted for the month, each name is worth 5 points if they die during that month/round (and gets a QO). If you are the second player to post a name for the month (say, Groucho Marx), you will score 4 pts for a hit/QO on Groucho. The third team to post Groucho will score only 3 pts and so on, until the fifth team has posted Groucho, after which point he is worthless for the month. This results in a similar distribution as last year in which a name could only be included on five lists each month (once at each point position). Once posted, a team is set, and names cannot be changed for that month for any reason. At the close of January, all lists become void and new lists can be submitted for the month of February, etc. IMPORTANT: You can not use a name in consecutive months. Example: If you use Billy Graham in Jan, you cannot use him again until March. If you get new intel about some very brown bananas, you do not need to wait until the new month to post your new list. If you choose, you can post your next month's list early, which will be an inactive list until the next month starts. However, once you post your next months list, your active list becomes void and you forfeit the ability to score for the rest of that month. Which also means you forfeit your chance at the month end bonus. . . . . .(see below). So check your current team for any recent hits before you post a new team. Once posted, you can't score with your old team. If you choose to post a list early, and a name dies PRIOR to the start of the next round, you will be playing with a short hand for the month. Once your team is posted to the thread, it is locked in, name changes for any rule violation or change of heart are not allowed. BONUS: If you get a hit on the last day (of any month), you will triple your points for that hit. So in this case a fresh name would score 15, or a stale one as little as 3. A hit on the second to last day of the month will score double pts. Double points will also be awarded during the entire last week of December (Xmas through the 31st). This is the only bonus of the game. In 2018 we had several double point bonuses awarded in that last week. I will post monthly teams and standings, and police for rule violations only on hits. If you hit and it turns out you violated a rule (consecutive months or 6th player to post a name that month) with that pick, you will earn no score, and again, you will not be allowed to fill the slot with a new name. I will use Wikipedia for the dates of all deaths, and lists will be "postmarked" by the date/time they are posted to the thread. QO's: Any name scored by the Derby or AO Deadpools will be scored, or if they get a QO in the Associated Press. Also accepted this year are NY Times, LA Times, USA Today or CNN. Finally, to address end of tournament ties: I hate ties. Simply the team who achieved the high score of the tournament first will break a tie. In other words, to overtake a leader in the game, you must surpass him/her in points, not just match. Good luck and I hope to see some January teams soon! I will post my team after the first 5 or 6 teams come in. WF Sample post: WF's January team: Zsa Zsa Gabor Katherine Hepburn Fidel Castro George Burns Groucho Marx

Final standings updated earlier on this page of the thread!

That was a very poor showing by everyone to finish the game. Not much change at all in the leaderboard since November. Only Quim Reaper gets a hit and climbs a couple of notches. So we can crown a victor and worthy champion of the second year Five4three2one deadpool in gcreptile in a close one over Clorox Bleachman and Joey Russ. All three had great seasons. I am going to take a break for a week or two and think it over if this pool is worth running a third year, and if so, what is the best way to score it. I find it odd that some folks prefer the original format in which you had to poor over all the previous entries to determine which point values were still available, and take care to rank your team in order to not violate previously taken point values. I know it was certainly a pain for me to try to police it. And then there was the limitation in scoring, whereas even a great team could only earn you 15 pts a month (5+4+3+2+1) vs the 25pts that could be earned by a good all original team in the year two rules. But maybe it is not unlike the tendency for most folk to prefer the version of a song they hear and become familiar with first, rather than the cover version, regardless of which version has the better production values or musicianship. Alas, I will monitor here for the near future if anyone else wants to chime in on whether or not they would play a third year and which type of scoring system they prefer. Thanksagain to all for playing, and may your shadowlists in 2020 all go down in big numbers.

Funny, but you are the same dude who bailed out halfway through because you were upset over the rule changes from the first year. I hate being bipolar, it's fabulous!

I think late on the first day of the new year we are safe to declare a winner in this tournament that lasted a full year and a half. I would like to offer my firm congratulations to theoldlady for taking the trophy, and it couldn't go to a nicer deadpooler. Ironically, she wins it even though she had BOTH of the two names that died in Dec on her list (Sheila Mercier and Pete Frates). It goes to show you that the ranking is what's important here. Her total was still the lowest of the three for the month, which makes her the champion. Also well done to runners up Captain Chorizo and Bibliogryphon, but as Jeff says on Survivor - - I've got nothing for ya. I will consider another tournament style pool after a break, as I have been doing a lot of work on prepping for other pools and am about tuckered out on pooling for now. Thank you all for playing and making it an interesting match.

I am 0 and 2 for this game, but I feel I must participate. The titans need their fodder to become titans, after all. But I aim to do better.

See how I am learning all the time?? I don't even know what the hell a status update is and I found a way to creatively use it. Hope it didn't cause too much death and destruction. Well, death ok, destruction, no. Do you want me to repost here - no problem?

So, I rank my list based on who I think is most DL worthy, and put most worthy at the top? I can do it, but I will need another day. I can PM you with the new list to save space here.

I've been around awhile, but it just goes to show me how much I have to learn . . . I don't know what crowdsourced is Joey, but if it isn't too painful, you can do that with my list which I just now posted to this thread. I have had my own shadowlist for the last couple of years (went 17/50 this year), but since this is the first official posting of it, I feel I can start from scratch.

2020 - Wormy's shadow list 1 alex trebek 2 alfredo varelli 3 bill freehan 4 bill turnbull 5 bob barker 6 bob dole 7 boris pahor 8 carl j shapiro 9 charlie trippi 10 chris doleman 11 daniel arap moi 12 david gulpilil 13 david prowse 14 david stern 15 dilip kumar 16 eileen ash 17 fauja singh 18 frankie banali 19 genesis p-orridge 20 george alagiah 21 harriet frank, jr 22 henry gray (blues HOF) 23 hugh mcelhenny 24 james randi 25 jean louis trintignant 26 jill gascoine 27 jim otto 28 jimmy carter 29 Kane tanaka 30 karen lewis 31 kenny rogers 32 kirk douglas 33 larry king 34 lee kerslake 35 leslie phillips 36 loongkoonan 37 majek fashek 38 norman lloyd 39 olivia newton john 40 prince philip 41 renee simonot 42 robert marchand 43 roberta mccain 44 ruthie tompson 45 sam lloyd 46 steve gleason 47 susan bayh 48 viola smith 49 william frankland 50 yoko ono alt john madden (NFL broadcaster)

We are now into the double point period through the 30th. Triple points on the 31st. What a slow final month it has been, but there is still time to pick up some major leaderboard changes over the holidays.

So there will be a winner by the end of Dec - right on schedule! 2 hits already, and even though theoldlady has included both of them, she is the shrewdest ranker so far and still has the lowest point total. So with 2 weeks to go, she has the inside track to the championship. A few stats about the final lists: 36 of the 57 names possible were chosen. 12 names were taken by all 3 players. 9 of the names are solos. Enjoy!