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  1. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    We're back in February, so, if the first round draw happens on the 20th January, this gives everyone 18 days or so to decide if they want to enter the Cup or not. In 2017, deadsox beat Spade, he beat DDT and he beat Death Impends to win the first ever Deathlist Cup. In 2018, Sir Creep got to the final in swashbuckling form, only to find wily old DDT too much. And in 2019, Spade Cooley proved why he is one of the GOATs, dominating every single match he was in like it was nothing. Bou made a nice run in the cup too. Last year, rookie An Fear Beag blew it out of the park and beat every opponent he faced, including Death Impends in her second finals appearance. Will An Fear Beag make it 2 for 2? Or will anyone win? DeathByArsenic had a wonder run that lasted them all the way to the quarterfinals. It's a Cup, skill is good but so is luck. Come one, come all, and look at the rules... Some Basic Rules which I've tried to explain as simply as possible, but which are open for questions about how obvious things I've forgotten work. The Deathlist Cup 1. This will be a knockout tournament featuring one on one matchups between Deathlist forum posters. These matches will be determined by use of a random draw, using Random.org. 2. If we have an odd number of players ie 30 like in 2017, then certain players will get byes to the Second Round. This will be based on results from the 2019 Cup ie Winner first, then Runner up, semifinalists, etc etc. 3. Players, on receiving their randomly drawn opponent, will have a ten day period to send the Referee their First Eleven for the match by PM, and one sub in case of an early death. These eleven picks can be very low hanging fruit if you so wish, as the point of the game is to score as many “goals” during the month a match is played. ie, a perfect team would look like this 1. Alan Alda (joker) 2. Jeb Bush 3. George Bush Jr 4. Bill Clinton 5. Hilary Clinton 6. Barack Obama 7. Jimmy Carter 8. Walter Mondale 9. John Major 10. Tony Blair 11. Donald Trump subs 12. Melania Trump 13. Dick Cheney 14. Sarah Palin As an example. Though in reality, that team would be shit for actually scoring points... 4. PROHIBITIONS – The following picks will be PROHIBITED ie NOT ALLOWED: death row prisoners, anyone who is a prisoner of ISIS or similar terrorist groups, people solely famous for being ill and nothing else, animals, no kids (that’s anyone under the age of 18), no one missing in action who blatantly died already. 5. For clarification, my views on Famous for Being Ill are extremely lenient by forum standards. Is your pick an obscure in their own field type, like a historian from Trinidad? They’re fine. Is your pick someone who is in coma due to a heart attack, or a dad on his last Christmas, or the like, the type no one would have heard of for anything? Don’t pick them, there’s PLENTY of other better options. There’s enough Kate Bowler (published academic, cancer) types in the world that you don’t need Kate Cancer Mum of the Mirror Sob Story. Thank you. NOTE: If they are rejected for the DDP, they will also be automatically rejected here as well just FYI. 6. If in doubt, submit a pick, but the decision of the ref (me) is final and is not open to any court of appeal. If you think it’s a dodgy pick, it probably is. If you think the ref is a grumpy teenager, well, he is. 7. Each match will take place over the course of a single month. For example, a February match would take place from February 1st to February 28th (or 29th on a leap year), a March match from March 1st to March 31st and so on... 8. Games will be scored in the following manner: A person in your team dies = 3 points A unique person in your team dies = 1 more point (ie 1 bonus point) Fatality – Your joker. Double points Someone famous only for being ill dies – 0 points because not in the team (hah, bet you thought I wasn’t paying attention here) 9. Here is what happens in the case of a team member dying prematurely (ie on 28th Feb for the March game). If you discover this before the 3rd of the month, your top sub will automatically go into place. If it is discovered on the 3rd or after, sorry about your luck. If it turns out the person was dead and known to be (this is determined via a reference in a newspaper or magazine, not social media) then subs don’t come into play. This was a bone of contention in 2017, 2018, AND 2019 and I hope this clears that up. If it bloody well doesn’t I’m instituting a Hewlett Rule in 2022! 10. At the end of the month, the player in the match with the highest score wins that game, and will advance to the next round. The player who doesn’t have the highest score will lose, and be eliminated. 11. In the event of a draw, the following tiebreaks will be used: 1st tiebreak = number of hits 2nd tiebreak = average age of hits 3rd tiebreak = flip of a coin 4th tiebreak if needed = A little game of eenie meenie miny mo (hehe) 12. A player is only held to one team for a single match. If they win their match and advance to the next round, they may pick eleven entirely different people for the next round. In this way, folk who announce their terminal illness in, say, May, can be put to good dead pooling use. 13. Qualifying obits? Every single English language newspaper or magazine (ie Bleeding Cool for example) in the universe. Also Le Monde, Le Figaro, Der Spiegel, Die Zeit, El Pais and El Mundo. If you still can’t get a QO, well, really… The referee (Joey Russ) may make a judgement call based on what he is provided with, and that call will be final. Forum posts on Deathlist, and your own blog don't count, sorry. 14. For the removal of any doubt, any players who do not send in their team before the deadline will be DQ'd and replaced by the highest scoring loser. No matter how many sad PMs you send afterwards. Apologies aren’t allowed either Example Death Impends, Joey Russ, YoungWillz and msc hypothetically take part. Random.org gives us these matches: 1. Death Impends v Joey Russ (feck) 2. YoungWillz v msc This draw takes place in Month 1 (ie January) and is for matches taking place in Month 2 (February). After the draw, each player sends The Referee (ie Joey Russ) a team of Eleven Celebrities they think will snuff it in Month 2. Then, for the results: msc scores in Month 2 with a big name celebrity and a unique but obscure punk music historian. Young Willz gets a unique big name celebrity. The score is 7-4 to msc, who advances to the next round. Good luck!
  2. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    I was definitely aware that Nikki Grahame was picked but I was pretty busy today, hence why the update isn’t until now. So, it is common in the early stages of the cup to have some sort of punt picks on your team. Indeed, people love to punt in folk like Bella Thorne and Kanye West in the first three rounds, so when I saw Nikki on maryport’s team, I assumed she was just that. However, I was clearly wrong in this case, and as such maryport takes the lead against Bibliogryphon, who’s hoping to get his second cup hit this round. DevonDeathTrip vs CaptainChorizo 0 - 6 Spade_Cooley vs Clorox Bleachman 11 - 3 Perhaps vs Gcreptile 6 - 6 msc vs Book 6 - 9 Banana vs alt obits guy 3 - 0 maryportfuncity vs Bibliogryphon 4 - 0 Quim Reaper vs deadsox 0 - 3 DeathByArsenic vs YorkshireBanker 0 - 0
  3. Man, time flies by really fast, doesn't it? Well, we are on the cusp of a new record for 2020 with 21 dead so far. The question then becomes will the 2021 edition be able to top our current list? We will see, but for the time being let's go over the rules, shall we? THE RULES Rules 1. Please send a list of celebrities you wish to vote for to Joey Russ, during the time period of 27th November to the 31st December 2020. The list must have a minimum of 20 names on it, and a maximum of 50. Please send them by either PM or the Shadow List thread, not by email, semaphore, Morse code, Deathlist live chat, animated corpses, text messages, or any other means of communication you can think of. And you may only submit via 1 of those two methods above, NOT BOTH METHODS! 2. Your 1st choice will gain 50 points, 2nd 49, etc etc to 50th which will gain 1 point. 3. When the deadline passes, all of the points that an individual celebrity gain will be added together, and the top fifty celebrities with the most points overall will go on the Utterly Unofficial Forum List. 4. Feel free to add substitutes at the bottom of the list, which will only be counted if one of your fifty die before January 1st 2021. If for example your number one pick is such a smart one they die before January 1st, then I will give 50 points to your 2nd pick, and so on until 1 point is given to the first substitute. 5. Do try to make the picks as "Deathlisty" as possible. More Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and less Dewayne "Monsanto Man" Johnson, if you know what I mean. Someone likely to score an obit with one of the major English language news outlets. 6. The deadline for sending in entries is 31st December 2020 at 9 pm GMT. That's 4pm New York Time (31st December) and 8am (1st Jan) Melbourne time to help out non-Brits. This earlier dead line is so there's enough time to complete the list before the new year as well as enjoying some extra time off as well. 7. This is essentially a forum game without a winner. It does however put the long held notion by some that the combined minds of the forum know better than the Committee to the test. 8. Who picked whom will remain anonymous. Unless the person announces it of course. 9. The paranoid probably shouldn't send in their DDP unique hopefuls. Whilst I do not intend to steal them away, it would make no sense: if the person then showed up on the list, their chances of being unique would be very slim indeed! 10. To keep to the Deathlist spirit, only the top 25 ranked celebrites from the current list of Crowdsourced Deathlist 2020 survivors will be used: Alex Trebek, Prince Philip, Jimmy Carter, Bob Dole, Mikhail Gorbachev, George Alagiah, David Gulpilil, Jean-Louis Trintignant, Beverly Cleary, Betty White, Henry Kissinger, Leslie Phillips, Bob Barker, Glynis Johns, Larry King, Rosalynn Carter, Sidney Poitier, Pope Benedict, Dilip Kumar, Tom Smith, Willie Nelson, Harry Reid, Lata Mangeshkar, Joanne Woodward, Jimmy Greaves, Prunella Scales, Eva Marie Saint, Clarissa Eden, Desmond Tutu Some names there I don’t think anyone expected to be in contention for 2021, but there’s still time in 2020 yet. 10a) Our actual collated list will stick to the "25 from the previous year" rule. 10b) As a result, if our top fifty, after all votes have been counted, has more than twenty-five of the 2020 survivors (named for ease in Rule 10), then the lowest ranked excess survivors will be axed from the list in favour of The Fifty-First ranked celebrity and so on... 10c) Since we don't know if that'll be an issue until I actually do the counting, voters don't need to worry about limiting their personal lists to 25 survivors. It'd be nice if they did, but that's life. 11) Please pick living people. Folk do die before 1st January, but there were a few cases of people dead for a number of years chosen last time. Please do not pick animals, or ISIS prisoners, or kids, or any of the usual no go areas. Anyhow, enjoy. Or not.
  4. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Sometimes, things are poorly aged. Stuff such as this: It’s a shame too, he died too young I think. But, three teams do score some points. First, Chorizo extends his lead over DDT to 6 points as he looks to snag another consecutive top 8 finish. Book now takes the lead against msc. And deadsox scores the first points in his tie. Two ties, however, still have yet to get a single point, which makes them potential coin flips for this round. DevonDeathTrip vs CaptainChorizo 0 - 6 Spade_Cooley vs Clorox Bleachman 11 - 3 Perhaps vs Gcreptile 6 - 6 msc vs Book 6 - 9 Banana vs alt obits guy 3 - 0 maryportfuncity vs Bibliogryphon 0 - 0 Quim Reaper vs deadsox 0 - 3 DeathByArsenic vs YorkshireBanker 0 - 0
  5. Joey Russ

    41. Raul Castro

    After the death of Fidel Castro, his brother, and current president of Cuba, Raul Castro, probably doesn't have that long in him (about 3-5 years I'm guessing). I think he is famous enough for his own thread, because he is the last major figure in the Cuban Revolution and he is the president of Cuba. All of that, plus being related to Fidel Castro, pretty much guarantees a BBC obit. Do you think he is famous enough for deathlist? Discuss.
  6. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Quite the cruel ending to her campaign, with the Ministry of Defence denying her husband a medal, and then dying hours later. Might also be a cruel ending for Clorox’s cup chances, who’s already 8 points down with only a week past so far... DevonDeathTrip vs CaptainChorizo 0 - 3 Spade_Cooley vs Clorox Bleachman 11 - 3 Perhaps vs Gcreptile 6 - 6 msc vs Book 6 - 6 Banana vs alt obits guy 3 - 0 maryportfuncity vs Bibliogryphon 0 - 0 Quim Reaper vs deadsox 0 - 0 DeathByArsenic vs YorkshireBanker 0 - 0
  7. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Yep, that counts as a QO. So Reptile and Perhaps continue to wrestle for the lead in their match, which neither have currently. Meanwhile, Banana gets the first points in his match too. DevonDeathTrip vs CaptainChorizo 0 - 3 Spade_Cooley vs Clorox Bleachman 7 - 3 Perhaps vs Gcreptile 6 - 6 msc vs Book 6 - 6 Banana vs alt obits guy 3 - 0 maryportfuncity vs Bibliogryphon 0 - 0 Quim Reaper vs deadsox 0 - 0 DeathByArsenic vs YorkshireBanker 0 - 0
  8. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    I was surprised that Pat Simms was unique for the 2nd month in a row. I would’ve had her on my team had I somehow made it to April. But, since she wasn't picked by anyone else, Spade gets to have four points on his. Meanwhile, Jack Veneno also died, but currently doesn’t have a suitable QO yet. That will probably change very soon though... DevonDeathTrip vs CaptainChorizo 0 - 3 Spade_Cooley vs Clorox Bleachman 7 - 3 Perhaps vs Gcreptile 3 - 3 msc vs Book 6 - 6 Banana vs alt obits guy 0 - 0 maryportfuncity vs Bibliogryphon 0 - 0 Quim Reaper vs deadsox 0 - 0 DeathByArsenic vs YorkshireBanker 0 - 0
  9. Joey Russ

    Sweepstakes

    As suggested, a new sweepstakes thread is here. The intent of this is so that the other threads don't get clogged up with sweepstakes when people are wanting news for a particular person. But, i still don't think sweepstakes should be start for anyone. That's why I'm offering a democratic way to start sweepstakes. Anyone is allowed to bring up a sweepstake idea, and they must get support of four other members in order to start. As such a case, anyone can object to a sweepstake, and likewise, they must get four other people to agree. Whoever gets four in support first will dictate if a sweepstakes will start or not, and if the offer gets rejected, they'll have to wait at least one month before they can bring it up the same sweepstakes again. As the owner of this thread, I feel like when it's necessary, to instant veto a ridiculous sweepstake offer (hoping not to use that power much if at all), or to allow bringing up a sweepstake again if that person takes a sudden turn for the worse and they are on a months wait. The veto can be overridden if ten people agree that the sweepstakes is necessary. Now, any objections to the rules? They are allowed. If not, I'll like to offer the first sweepstake: Liz Dawn.
  10. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    I didn’t make that error no. You must be mistaken.
  11. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Yeah, three matchups had Timoteo on both sides, including both Book and msc cashing in their joker for the match. Chorizo however takes the lead in his match against DDT. Regardless, we finally got some points on the board which looks like this: DevonDeathTrip vs CaptainChorizo 0 - 3 Spade_Cooley vs Clorox Bleachman 3 - 3 Perhaps vs Gcreptile 3 - 3 msc vs Book 6 - 6 Banana vs alt obits guy 0 - 0 maryportfuncity vs Bibliogryphon 0 - 0 Quim Reaper vs deadsox 0 - 0 DeathByArsenic vs YorkshireBanker 0 - 0
  12. Since there’s a what you’re reading thread and a what have you been watching lately, I’ve decided to start a thread focusing on music you’re currently listening to. Of course, if there’s a thread that exists on this that I don’t know about, a mod can merge them together. Anyways, I am listening to Berlin by Lou Reed for the very first time, and so far, I’m enjoying the album.
  13. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Yeah, not the only error that was made when making the masterlist. I might check to make sure all of your entries are correct this time.
  14. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Oh yeah, and the final 8 draw. You don’t want to know next matches draw. maryportfuncity or Bibliogryphon vs Spade_Cooley or Clorox Bleachman Banana or alt obits guy vs Quim Reaper or deadsox DevonDeathTrip or CaptainChorizo vs Perhaps or Gcreptile DeathByArsenic or CalebH vs msc or Book
  15. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Round 3 Masterlist: K R Gowri Amma - CalebH John Angelicoussis - alt obits guy, msc, Perhaps, Clorox Jack Arends - maryport, Book Eileen Ash - maryport Jana Bennett - deadsox, alt obits guy, Quim Tony Bennett - Quim Tim Bilton - alt obits guy Kat Bjelland - deadsox, DeathByArsenic, maryport*, Reptile, alt obits guy, Chorizo, Book, msc, Spade, Banana*, Perhaps, Clorox, DDT*, CalebH Rob Bolland - deadsox Abdelaziz Bouteflika - Biblio* Lawrence Brooks - deadsox Reuven Bulka - deadsox, alt obits guy, Book Sunday Burquest - msc Jerry Cain - msc, Banana Gene Champagne - msc, Banana, Perhaps Chandrashekhar - DeathByArsenic Bernadette Chirac - DeathByArsenic Mickey Coleman - DDT Chris Croucher - Banana Dave Cull - alt obits guy Michael Cullen - Chorizo Paul M Davis - Spade Steve Davis - Reptile Philippe de Gaulle - DeathByArsenic Shirley Denson - Spade Shannen Doherty - Biblio Bob Dole - Biblio, deadsox, maryport, Reptile, alts obit guy, Chorizo, Book, msc, Clorox, DDT Katherine, Duchess of Kent - Biblio Johnny Famechon - DeathByArsenic Hester Ford - deadsox Suzy Friton - Reptile Jonathan Fryer - Banana Saturnino de la Fuente Garcia - CalebH Greg Gilbert - Clorox Bruce Golding - alts obit guy Michelle Gonzalez-Green - Reptile Nikki Grahame - Maryport Ed Grant - Spade* Jungle Grrrl - Chorizo David Gulpilil - maryport, alt obits guy Sarah Harding - Biblio Kazi Hayat - Perhaps* James Hickox - msc, Clorox Antonio Inoki - Spade, Banana Glynis Johns - Biblio Shalom Kadosh - Book, Spade, Banana, Perhaps Jyrki Kasvi - deadsox*, Book, msc, Perhaps, Clorox Tim Keller - DDT Abdul Matin Khasru - Banana Mwai Kibaki - Chorizo, Perhaps, Clorox Rick Laird - Chorizo Rainer Langhans - Book Uno Loop - CalebH James Lovelock - Quim Terry Lubbock - Reptile, msc Steve Ludzik - DeathByArsenic Jimmy Lyndon - DeathByArsenic Joseph Manolic - Quim Robert Marchand - DeathByArsenic* Pat Martino - Quim Ally McLaws - Clorox Litsa Menounos - Reptile*, Chorizo*, Book, DDT Philip Mickenbecker - alt obits guy*, Book, Banana Princess Mikasa - CalebH Brenda Milner - CalebH Keith Mitchell - DDT Yu Mo-Lin - deadsox, maryport, Chorizo, Quim, DDT Gerd Muller - Biblio Raquel Olmedo - Perhaps Tom Parker - Quim R Balakrishna Pillai - Perhaps Prince Philip - deadsox, Chorizo, Book Leslie Phillips - Biblio, Quim Biljana Plavsic - CalebH Larry Pressler - alt obits guy Sarah Lilian Priest - maryport, CalebH Albert Raboteau - Reptile, msc Julia Reichert - DeathByArsenic Yoo Sang-chul - Bibliogryphon Fanny Serrano - Clorox* Pat Simms - Spade Rene Simonot - DeathByArsenic Tom Smith - maryport Walter Smith - maryport Mihai Sora - CalebH * Chicky Starr - DDT Susie Steiner - Reptile, Quim, Spade Kane Tanaka - Biblio, maryport Genichiro Tenryu - Spade Nort Thornton - CalebH Agnaldo Timóteo - Reptile, Chorizo, Book*, msc*, Spade, Perhaps, Clorox Maire Mhac an tSoa - CalebH Miguel Van Damme - Quim* Jack Veneno - Reptile, Banana, Perhaps James Whale - Biblio, deadsox Ross Whyte - Spade, Banana Frank Williams - Quim, DDT Maxine Henry Wilson - DDT Mila Ximenez - Chorizo, Clorox, DDT
  16. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Commiserations to YorkshireBanker, Grobler, Djemba, theoldlady, ThereWillBeDeaths, Fear Beag, markb4, Wormfarmer, HDS, me, Annami, Baby Blue, BuffaloPhil, GreatUncleBulgaria, Grim, and Etush. Better luck next year? On to round 3!
  17. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    Everyone is in now except for @DevonDeathTrip, who I’m sure is waiting until one second to the deadline to submit something
  18. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    So for the first time in my tenure as host, I have to prepare a coin toss. And no, Bibliogryphon doesn’t have to wait and see if he’s a lucky loser since he actually scored for once! No, this time it’s theoldlady and deadsox who has to wait and see if they win the coin toss. Hey, a coin toss in March. Deadsox won one of those in 2017. But nothing eventful came from that coin toss, definitely not. But, it remains to be seen, does he move on or is he stuck in round 2? And if he loses, could theoldlady be the one who makes it all the way? Well, let’s find out now: Oldlady (Heads) vs deadsox (Tails) Heads 1-0 Tails 1-1 Tails 1-2 Tails 1-3 Deadsox moves on So, unless theoldlady ends up getting a hit in the next 11 hours, she’s stuck in round 2. As for our lucky loser system, if one of our 16 teams don’t end up submitting, this is who is up (based on total points, point differentials, age of hits, and if still tied coin flip): 1. An Fear Beag 2. HDS 3. Annami
  19. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    They aren’t Going to be picked after all then.
  20. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    DevonDeathTrip or Annami vs BuffaloPhil or CaptainChorizo Spade_Cooley or Grim Up North vs HDS or Clorox Bleachman Perhaps or ThereWillBeDeaths7 vs Gcreptile or Baby Blue Grobler or msc vs Book or An Fear Beag Banana or GreatUncleBulgaria vs Djemba Djemba or alt obits guy Markb4 or maryportfuncity vs Bibliogryphon or EtushIsPushingUpTheDaisies Quim Reaper or Wormfarmer vs Theoldlady or deadsox DeathByArsenic or Joey Russ vs YorkshireBanker or CalebH These are the team I got so far. The cup deadline to submit is soon. Remember, there’s a little over 30 hours to submit a team...
  21. Joey Russ

    King Harald V of Norway

    Nevermind, I’m so dumb
  22. Joey Russ

    The 2021 Deathlist Cup

    So being a host gets you in a bit of a massive disadvantage. As you look at my team in general, it is filled with a lot more punt picks because there wasn’t very many sure bets around, and it was basically a casual match in February so no names I could steal. So I expected no points this round. However, because cult Romanian musician Rodion Rosca has died (and there’s also one obit in English), I actually get to sneak in a unique hit before the month ends. A bit of a consolation for my team that never really stood a chance... YorkshireBanker vs CalebH 4 - 7 Grobler vs msc 0 - 12 Djemba Djemba vs alt obits guy 6 - 9 Theoldlady vs deadsox 0 - 0 Perhaps vs ThereWillBeDeaths7 12 - 6 Book vs An Fear Beag 12 - 12 Markb4 vs maryportfuncity 3 - 6 Quim Reaper vs Wormfarmer 6- 0 HDS vs Clorox Bleachman 12 - 12 DeathByArsenic vs Joey Russ 6 - 4 DevonDeathTrip vs Annami 17 - 9 Gcreptile vs Baby Blue 13 - 3 BuffaloPhil vs CaptainChorizo 6 - 9 Banana vs GreatUncleBulgaria 23 - 6 Spade_Cooley vs Grim Up North 21 - 9 Bibliogryphon vs EtushIsPushingUpTheDaisies 3 - 0
  23. Joey Russ

    Beverly Cleary

    You’re responding to a post when I was a bit more naive. A few years have past and I now recognize how influential an author she was.
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