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Why HELL0000000 Kossers! Here for the 11th edition of Kill or Save? Of course you are. Come on in. We are exploring the top end of the UK music charts, from the 60s right through to the 00s. We’ve just rifled through a bunch of songs from the former, and decided in another nailbiter of a finale that Eloise by Barry Ryan is the best UK No.2 single. It isn’t, I mean, for god sake, there were 128 songs in the game and loads were better than that, but that’s what we decided, so be it. We learn and grow. Here, incredibly enough, we’re nearly at the end of our quest to find the best UK singles chart No.2s! Sad? Don’t be. Unless you fucking hate the 00s. No.3s are next, and who knows what other sort of superb spin-offs this game will spawn? It’s not just a game now, Kill or Save. It’s a sentient beast the DL’s music community have created and nurtured, and it’ll grow until it gets out of hand and destroys humanity itself. But before all that…the 00s. Sheesh. The 90s hangover choc full of “talent” shows, WKD and misogyny. But the music was great as well. Well, evolutionary. Sometimes. Interesting, at least. In the first half. Some of it. Look, it was something, alright? This crop should at least have something for everyone. Fancy reliving all the action? See below for links to all Kill or Save games to date: 60s No.1s; 70s No.1s; 80s No.1s; 90s No.1s; 00s No.1s 60s No.2s; 70s No.2s; 80s No.2s; 90s No.2s; 00s No.2s (you are here) (in play now!) Christmas Special 2023 KoS HoF The Rolling Stones — Paint It, Black Donna Summer — I Feel Love Nena — 99 Red Balloons Madonna — Vogue Gorillaz — Dare The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York Barry Ryan — Eloise Queen — Somebody To Love A-Ha — Take On Me The Cardigans — Lovefool For the newcomers and the forgetful, here’s how it works: - Each song starts with 20 points (whether it deserves it or not). - You can only vote once a day. To avoid any time zone confusion, please put a date (and time & time zone, if you'd like) at the top of your scoring post (e.g. “Mon 5 Feb”, “05-02-2024 00:01 BST”, whatever, as long as it’s clear.) In theory, your votes can be close together, but no consecutive votes please. - Once a day, you can award 4 points to and subtract 6 from the songs of your choosing in the current round. You can split your daily +4 and -6 between as many songs as you like, it’s down to you. - Please familiarise yourself with any songs in the list you don’t know already before voting. - We aren’t here to sod about with numbers. We’re here to vote based on your own honest opinions. Don’t vote spitefully, don’t vote songs just because they’re high/low on the scorebaord. Your opinions are what matters. It’s really simple. - Make sure you copy and paste the most recent voter’s scoreboard when you take your turn to score. For your own ease, ‘paste as plain text’ to get rid of the previous poster’s formatting. Then, delete their +/- scores, add yours, adjust the song’s points total and make your scores bold. As an example: 24 List Topper — Diego’s Nightmare +4 20 Didn’t Listen — Dump Me Later 20 The Ignored — Nobody Knows Me 19 Deckchair Shufflers — Faffing About -1 16 Drivel — Dreck 15 Bottom Of The Pile — Diego’s Favourite -5 Everyone makes mistakes sometimes, so I’d just like to once again express my sincere gratitude to all of our careful and attentive players who spot and correct any errors that arise from time to time. You make the host’s job a lot easier. See, below, the complete list of 208 UK No.2 songs from the 2000s. Rejoice! Or despair. Wonderful. As ever, we will start with 5 group stages, beginning with the No.2 hits of 2000/01, followed by a grand final consisting of the 25 songs that have qualified, where we will ultimately decide what the undisputed best No.2 single of the 2000s is, and the artist(s) of said song will enjoy a major relaunch in their previously doomed career, thus mercifully avoiding being presented with a plate of crocodile fandango by a giggling pair of botoxed Geordies. 2000/01: 35 songs - the last 4 songs will make the final 2002/03: 63 songs - the last 7 songs will make the final 2004/05: 37 songs - the last 5 songs will make the final 2006/07: 41 songs - the last 5 songs will make the final 2008/09: 32 songs - the last 4 songs will make the final So, hang the disco balls and fire up the dry ice machine, for it’s time…to Kill or Save.

Fri 19 Apr 71 Jeff Buckley — Hallelujah 37 La Roux — In For The Kill 37 James Morrison ft. Nelly Furtado — Broken Strings 36 Adele — Chasing Pavements 33 Rihanna — Russian Roulette 33 Kings Of Leon — Use Somebody 30 Taylor Swift — Love Story 30 Jay-Z ft. Alicia Keys — Empire State Of Mind -6 22 Britney Spears — Piece Of Me +4 +1pb 20 Sam Sparro — Black & Gold 19 The Script — The Man Who Can’t Be Moved No reply so I've added @Paul Bearer's extra 1 point to the song he gave 3 points to, which was his most likely intention. If he disagrees, he can rectify that in his next scoring.

Okay, fair play, I enjoyed reading that twattery, that was funny

I know. Difference is, people enjoy reading my twattery.

You've been a member for about a year and a half, and for there or thereabouts a year and a half of that, you've been a twat.

Penny is a) vile, b) ridiculous, and c) probably going to lose her seat. But that's okay, she's already sorted out her post-parliamentary career:

My favourite stat about Liz Truss is that her net approval rating in the UK when she left office was -83%, which was at the time 4% worse than Vladimir Putin's.

Shit! Who’s going to save the fucking West now?!

Ah, I forgot I hadn't put him on my newly-founded 'ignore' list! Just in case he pops up in any other threads, like. Up to 6 now, it's doing well.

Seems to be a new one of these every week:

Possibly, though imo it’s perfectly good even with Crookers. I think some of the downvotes are coming from those who want to end the round as quickly as possible (against the spirit of the game but it happens)

Thing is, you look at the definite seat-holders - Braverman, Hayes, Truss, plenty of that ilk. Are they the foundations on which to build a party that’ll be electable again in 10 years? Are they fuck. The only way the Tories become remotely credible again is if they detoxify themselves to pre-Brexit standards.

Absolutely, it's well documented how much of a shock 1992 was and how the Tories just seemed tired by the end of it. Was there ever a real prospect, as there is now with scandal after scandal and shocking poll after shocking poll, of 1997 being a genuine existential threat to the Tories?

A question to anyone tuned in to politics in the 90s: how woeful did it all look for Major in his last couple of years? Did his electoral prospects look anything like as bad as they are now for Sunak? Was anyone still singing his praises? Just trying to gauge whether comparisons to 1997 are about right or whether they're an over/underestimation.

Ipsos are yet another pollster to see the Tories sink under 20%. In 45 years of Ipsos surveys, that's the lowest the Tories have ever polled with them. The now second-lowest is last month. Ninja'd by the DCI but it's worth looking at twice because it's quite funny.

Thu 18 Apr 67 Jeff Buckley — Hallelujah 37 La Roux — In For The Kill 35 Jay-Z ft. Alicia Keys — Empire State Of Mind 34 Adele — Chasing Pavements 33 James Morrison ft. Nelly Furtado — Broken Strings 33 Kings Of Leon — Use Somebody 32 Rihanna — Russian Roulette 28 Taylor Swift — Love Story 27 Sam Sparro — Black & Gold 21 The Script — The Man Who Can’t Be Moved 18 Michael Jackson — Man In The Mirror -6 16 Britney Spears — Piece Of Me +4 12 Kid Cudi vs. Crookers — Day ’n’ Nite 07 The Saturdays — Just Can’t Get Enough 06 Leona Lewis — Happy

Might be an idea not to leave your posts nameless. For the benefit of the search function...author Sophie Kinsella has had glioblastoma since late 2022.

A horrifying injury.

Well done Rover!

This is what Crem insisted Liz had. I wonder if this article is how he kept occupied during his recent quiet spell on mod preview.

Wed 17 Apr 63 Jeff Buckley — Hallelujah 35 Jay-Z ft. Alicia Keys — Empire State Of Mind 33 La Roux — In For The Kill 32 Sam Sparro — Black & Gold 31 James Morrison ft. Nelly Furtado — Broken Strings 30 Kings Of Leon — Use Somebody 30 Adele — Chasing Pavements 28 Taylor Swift — Love Story 28 Rihanna — Russian Roulette 28 Michael Jackson — Man In The Mirror -6 27 The Script — The Man Who Can’t Be Moved 20 Kid Cudi vs. Crookers — Day ’n’ Nite 16 The Saturdays — Just Can’t Get Enough 15 Britney Spears — Piece Of Me +4 15 Leona Lewis — Happy 11 T.I. ft. Rihanna — Live Your Life

Of all the places on the internet you could target, why the fuck a pokey little forum largely about the dead and dying? Unless it's one of the lonely little wankstains from the 'alternative' forum playing silly buggers...

Spanish, you say?