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  1. I think the issue with acting Dames is that they tend to award those in British theatre early - Kristin Scott Thomas for example - then they wait a little longer for the ones high in British cinema - eg Julie Walters - and then the ones who make their career in the US rather than the U.K. tend to have to wait til they’re super old or not at all - see Angela Lansbury and Olivia de Havilland. 
     

    Seems to me that the damehood can depend on the amount of impact you have on U.K. rather than international cinema/TV. 
     

    Obviously the rare exception such as Julie Andrews or Elizabeth Taylor but it’s much rarer for an ‘international’ British star to get a damehood early. 

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  2. Cross posting here the death of Norman Lear. He's the 6th Kennedy Center Honoree to die this year, making this year the deadliest since 2003.

     

    He's also the 4th honoree on this year's deathlist to die, besting last year's 3.

     

    Given the hit rate perhaps worth considering one or two honorees who've not made the list before - Leontyne Price, John Kander, Clint Eastwood or Berry Gordy next year...

     

     

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  3. Just a couple of lists for completeness sake:

     

    Top 20 oldest living recipients:

    Norman Lear, Dick van Dyke, Mel Brooks, Leontyne Price, John Kander, Berry Gordy, Joanne Woodward, Clint Eastwood, Sonny Rollins, James Earl Jones, Carmen de Lavallade, Rita Moreno, John Williams, Chita Rivera, Quincy Jones, Carol Burnett, Willie Nelson, Marilyn Horne, Shirley MacLaine, Seiji Ozawa

     

    Pre-00s surviving recipients (given the lifetime achievement aspect, living 20+ years after receiving the award is notable!)

    Leontyne Price (1980), Joanne Woodward (1992), Marilyn Horne (1995), Edward Villella (1997), Bob Dylan (1997), John Kander (1998), Willie Nelson (1998), Judith Jamison (1999), Stevie Wonder (1999)

     

    Recipients who have died in 2023: 5 (Wayne Shorter, Harry Belafonte, Grace Bumbry, Tina Turner & Tony Bennett).

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  4. Apologies for starting a new thread if no one thinks its worth it, but I thought its probably worth starting a thread on recipients of the American Kennedy Center Honor, the award given to (usually) five individuals from the arts every year who are selected for making an indelible effect on American culture. Because of the very nature of it, the vast majority of the recipients are elderly, and it's rare that anyone under 60 is even awarded in the first place (although there have been some recent exceptions).

     

    I wouldn't usually start a thread like this but it's notable that halfway through this year 5 of the recipients have died and nine recipients are on this year's list.

     

    The full list of recipients through the years is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Center_Honors

     

    Plenty of older Deathlist-worthy names cropping up there every year worth taking a look at.

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  5. If this works as a general guide the living Oscar nominees who were nominated in the 40s and 50s are:

     

    Ann Blyth (1945 - the last survivor from the 1940s).

     

    1950s

    Nancy Olson (1950)

    Lee Grant (1951)

    Terry Moore (1952)

    Leslie Caron (1953)

    Eva Marie Saint (1954)

    Marisa Pavan (1955)

    Don Murray (1956)

    Carroll Baker (1956)

    Patty McCormack (1956)

    Joanne Woodward (1957)

    Russ Tamblyn (1957)

    Shirley MacLaine (1958)

    Susan Kohner (1959)

     

    The vast majority of these were nominated in the supporting categories where during the early years the younger generations used to get nominated (nowadays it tends to be older people nominated in supporting) if we're judging their level of fame.

     

    Either way...not many left at all and only Caron, Baker, Woodward & MacLaine are the only leading nominees left. And only MacLaine and Woodward had multiple nominations in decades outside the 50s (MacLaine in the 60s, 70s and 80s and Woodward in 60s, 70s and 90s). Caron only got one more in the early 60s.

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  6. There are 9 Kennedy Center Honorees on this year’s list - DvD, Bennett, Belafonte, Brooks, Woodward, Lear, Nelson, Rollins and Turner.

     

    Traditionally 2-5 Kennedy Center Honorees die each year. On the 2022 list, of the 8 Honorees 3 died so I’d say the odds are that we lost at least one of the 9 this year, if not more..

     

    Given that the Kennedy Center award is a lifetime achievement award, the recipients tend to be old anyway but it’s always a decent guess that one of that list will shuffle off this year…


  7. The list started with 8 Kennedy Center Honorees. 3 have gone so far (Poitier, Lynn & Lansbury) and given 2 of those have gone in the last 2 weeks and these things come in threes... think it might be one of the remaining 5 - van Dyke, Bennett, Belafonte, Brooks or Ronstadt.

     

    Given he's known to be in the most decline of the lot I think I'll go with Bennett...

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  8. At that ceremony all players walked out un-aided and stood there for a good half hour/45 minutes. So all seem healthy.

     

    Interesting note from the commentary on one match yesterday via doubles champ Todd Woodbridge...Frank Sedgman was supposed to attend this year to celebrate the anniversary of winning all three tournaments (singles, doubles & mixed) in one year. But at the last minute made the decision not to come...

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  9. 13 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said:

    Golden Age of Hollywood star and Oscar nominee Cara Williams (wikidead at 96.

    Also once married to actor John Drew Barrymore (1932–2004), and mother to John Barrymore III (who in turn is Drew Barrymore's half-brother).

    Mentioned on here in Ideas and Possibilities threads as far back as 2011, and played in several pools.

    Dying just in time to be featured in TCM Remembers 2021, but surprisingly not picked in the DDP (last time was in 2019!). That may prove to be a fatal blow in us breaking that record for # of hits.

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    Cara Williams was the 3rd oldest living Oscar-nominated actor.

     

    With her passing the top 10 looks like this:

     

    1. Glynis Johns - born 05/10/1923 - 98

    2. Eva Marie Saint - born 04/07/1924 - 97

    3. Angela Lansbury - born 16/10/1925 - 96

    4. Sidney Poitier - born 20/02/1927 - 94

    5. Harry Belafonte - born 01/03/1927 - 94 (not a nominee but the winner of an honorary Oscar)

    6. Rosemary Harris - born 19/09/1927 - 94

    7. Lee Grant - born 31/10/1927 - 94

    8. Estelle Parsons - born 20/11/1927 - 94

    9. Nancy Olson - born 14/07/1928 - 93

    10. Ann Blyth - born 16/08/1928 - 93

     

    Cara Williams' passing means there are only two nominees now alive from 1958 - Sidney Poitier and Shirley Maclaine.

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  10. This leaves the list of the top 10 oldest tennis players like this:

     

    1. Vic Seixas (1 Wimbledon and 1 US Championship) - born 30/08/1923 - 98 

    2. Bob Falkenburg (1 Wimbledon) - born 29/01/1926 - 95

    3. Dick Savitt (1 Wimbledon and 1 Australian Championship) - born 04/03/1927 - 94

    4. Frank Sedgman (1 Wimbledon, 2 American & 2 Australian Championships) - born 29/10/1927 - 94

    5. Angela Mortimer (1 Wimbledon, 1 French & 1 Australian Championship) - born 21/04/1932 - 89

    6. Nicola Pietrangeli (2 French Championships) - born 11/09/1933 - 88

    7. Neale Fraser (1 Wimbledon & 2 US Championships) - born 03/10/1933 - 88

    8. Shirley Brasher (1 French Championship) - born 13/06/1937 - 87

    9. Ken Rosewall (2 French, 2 American & 4 Australian Championships) - born 02/11/1934 - 85

    10. Mary Carter (2 Australian Championships) - born 29/11/1934 - 85

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