Predictor

Underground film director Kenneth Anger (b. 1927) needs to be seriously considered for next year. I get a "runner-up at the local Kirk Douglas lookalike contest" kind of vibe from him nowadays. Looks every bit of his age, even though not sure how how old he is in these photos. Well, he ain't getting any younger. Video from 2019: https://worldofwonder.net/iconic-filmmaker-kenneth-anger-dressed-in-various-gucci-lewks-is-interviewed-at-the-chateau-marmont/

Donald Duck too. It's astonishing how little he has aged over the years. All that rage must be good for his health.

If he is so healthy, then how come he is in your Fifty Nifty? I think Cardin was around the same age when he made his debut as Armani is today, so I agree that it seems like the kind of inclusion the committee would have for 2022. As for healthiest 87-year-old, I think George Chakiris is up there too. Maybe it's the hair dye, but he could honestly pass for a guy in his 60s.

Keep: Emperor Akihito Bob Barker Stanley Baxter Harry Belafonte Pope Benedict XVI Tony Bennett Jimmy Carter Dick Cheney Bernard Cribbins Jacques Delors Shannen Doherty Dick Van Dyke Queen Elizabeth II Henry Kissinger Angela Lansbury Willie Nelson Bob Newhart Linda Nolan Yoko Ono Leslie Phillips Sidney Poitier Prunella Scales Barbara Walters Betty White Joanne Woodward Return: Mikhail Gorbachev Olivia Newton-John Desmond Tutu New: George Alagiah Buzz Aldrin Kenneth Anger Giorgio Armani Carroll Baker Miguel Bezos Bobby Charlton Petula Clark Bill Cosby Bernie Ecclestone Frank Field Brian Glanville Jean-Luc Godard Glynis Johns Quincy Jones Rupert Murdoch Pele Roman Polanski Patricia Routledge Eva Marie Saint Ted Turner Ady Zivelonghi Leave: Betty Boothroyd Mel Brooks June Brown Burt Bacharach Rosalynn Carter Raul Castro David Crosby Alan Greenspan Ali Khamenei Shane MacGowan Imelda Marcos Loretta Lynn Jean-Marie Le Pen Vanessa Redgrave

Looks like an upset Hal Holbrook realizing that he's wrinklier than ever...

Death notice is just a listing of her death with no other text, right? I take it that alone doesn't count as a QO? Honestly, it is interesting how a big broadcaster like BBC, who can practically hire any expert guests they want, found Carol qualified enough to appear as an U.S. political commentator (i.e. BBC Radio 4) for over 15 years. Yet not interesting enough to mention her death (caused by the most talked-about diseases in the past 2 years!), even in passing. Not only that, they also hired her, a BAFTA member, as an Oscars commentator. Politics and films are competitive and oversaturated fields, you're not going to get a foot in and be heard by millions of viewers if you're a complete nobody. I'd understand if it was an entomologist talking about the filbert weevil for 30 minutes on a 3:AM radio show that only bored truck drivers tune in to during their night shifts. Or why not ITV News, as she had a stint at Anglia Television in the 1980s? Apparently, she was the one who pushed for those P.D. James novels to be televised. She also commissioned the last three seasons of Tales of the Unexpected.

*Emperor Akihito is marked as "died in 2012" in his DDP 2010 page *Stefan Karl Stefansson is listed as having died at age 34 in his DDP 2018 page *Let's say Deathray had inside information about Ronnie Pickering having a terminal illness. If DailyMail were to publish an obituary, would that be a loophole in the FFBI fame criterion? Or is marginally famous for being viral enough to be allowed even if his disease was known? *Is it a theme team if almost all people have something in common, but not everyone? Gris Gris has Alberto Fujimori in it, and unless I'm missing something, nothing in his name gets repeated? Could I add Peter Dinklage in a theme team of 19 extremely tall celebrities?

Well, if you spell his username out loud, it almost sounds like "am Messi", who's also humble so...Would be hilarious if Messi was secretly a deathpooler.

The lovely Doyle Hamm died on 28 November at the age of 64. This death will mark the start of the greatest comeback in Hares Death Pool history. https://www.al.com/news/2021/11/alabama-death-row-inmate-who-survived-botched-execution-dies-of-natural-causes.html

Does the submission period start in December?

Rest in peace. This is the 16th male DL hit in a row. The only woman to die after the deaths of two Dames Olivia and Vera is Ruth Ginsburg...

Agreed! I'm thinking maybe Tutu and Gorby.

I'm glad Gooseberry didn't enter that one. He would've crushed all three participants.

I find this thread very useful. I have already penned down these names on my shortlist for 2100, as some are bound to become celebrities in their own rights in the future.

Remaining people who have been selected for every single Derby Dead Pool since 2003. 1. Emperor Akihito 2. Michael Barrymore 3. Queen Elizabeth II 4. Mikhail Gorbachev 5. Hulk Hogan 6. Holly Johnson 7. Henry Kissinger 8. Angela Lansbury 9. Imelda Marcos 10. Liza Minnelli 11. Rupert Murdoch 12. Leslie Phillips 13. Keith Richards 14. Desmond 2-2 15. Mike Tyson Ryan O'Neal was close, but no one chose him for the DDP 2018. I think the last surviving one will be someone who is young enough to have plenty of years ahead of them, yet not in good enough health to the point of ever being deliberately overlooked. Or if not in bad health, then someone with an occupation that's popular among theme teams (wrestling/boxing). I could see Tyson being diagnosed with early stage dementia in the future, before dying in the mid-2030s. 8 of the 15 names were also in the DDP 1998. 1. Michael Barrymore 2. Queen Elizabeth II 3. Mikhail Gorbachev 4. Holly Johnson 5. Rupert Murdoch 6. Keith Richards 7. Desmond 2-2 8. Mike Tyson It wouldn't surprise me if all of them were also in 1999-2002. It was harder to research back then, so I can imagine that the teams re-used most of the surviving names.

My reasoning for including her in the DDP was that she'd had work/appearances for major British media outlets throughout the years. More recently, she was apparently covered in an article for Telegraph although I can't read it. It was in May 2021 and Roald Dahl-related. Having said that, I rarely read British newspapers (including obituaries) so estimating QO chances is a weakness of mine unless it's a no-brainer. So I could be totally wrong about this one. We'll have to wait and see, I guess. May she rest in peace.

Edit: Errm, this is definitely one of those "good idea poorly executed" jokes, lol.

1. Elise Ballard 2. Angelo Berkowitz 3. Simon Brook 4. Sharlene Brown 5. Eugene Byrd 6. Kelly Coyle 7. Anthony Crivello 8. Seth Michael Donsky 9. Kurt Engstrom 10. Elizabeth Franz 11. Giovanni Giacomo 12. Keivyn McNeill Grayes 13. Keisha Howard 14. Erik Jensen 15. David Norona 16. Billy Porter 17. Brenda Pressley 18. Rose Baum Senerchia 19. Lynn Tanner 20. Jean Loup Wolfman

No "took you long enough"? This is the only forum where I have made 1000 posts, so I'll just congratulate myself for this milestone.

The latest on comedian and actor Bob Nelson (9 October) is that he is cancer-free now after an operation, although there have been other issues afterwards. https://www.gofundme.com/f/comedian-bob-nelson039s-medical-expenses

Next year will be my 10th and final year in the DDP. I began deathpooling because I like competitions in general, and because I enjoy reading about/discussing celebrities. However, the researching illnesses side of it was ironically never really my cup of tea. For example, finding out whether someone's cancer is at stage 1, 42, or whatever. Or maintaining a long/shortlist in any other month than December. And all of that is reflected in my poor DDP track record over the years. I guess part of it is also because I ended up not wanting my teams to look like everyone else's. You know the deja vu feeling you get when you read every team's entries. I think you can liken it to a meal with ingredients: The better the ingredients are, the better the meal will become. But if you start experimenting with too many strange foods , what comes out of the oven might turn out a complete disaster, even if original. Did you know that 2/180 of my total main DDP team picks have been unique hits (plus 3 LoTLs and 2 already dead)?* Lol. All of this to say that maybe I will go more mainstream in DDP 2022. Just like my debut DDP 2013, although that lot had a super high average age. Perhaps I will still find a few interesting under-the-radar picks in late December, but I will only select them if I feel that it's worth the risk. Rest can be dumped to the bunny pool or Deathrace. The latter one, I only entered once because it usually ends before you've even started sobering up from New Year's Eve... As for theme teams, I won't be using the Disney one anymore. Perhaps an inventor team, though those are tricky because you rarely have those Gyro Gearloose type of inventors who single-handedly come up with something brand new. It's mostly engineers who have patents for improving something that only those in that field can comprehend. Anyway, best of luck to you all in the future DDPs. To be more specific, I mean the DDP 2023 and beyond, not the coming year. *My unique hits were Lennart Johansson & Princess Christina of Netherlands (both DDP 2019 coincidentally). The ones who got Eleanor Rigbied were Magnus Härenstam (DDP 2015), Robert Raiford (DDP 2017) & Christie Blatchford (DDP 2020). The ones who were already dead when picked are Algimantas Dailide & Leo Sharp (both DDP 2017 coincidentally). The curious thing about Sharp is that Clint fucking Eastwood directed and starred in movie based on his life the year after.

It is intertwined. It is mentioned many times that she needs money to be able to pay for housing expenses because her cancer treatment is costly. Also because her ability to work as much as she wants has been debilitated. Depends on what under control means here. The cancer is not in remission because the page uses present tense phrases like: "is now suffering with", " dealing with the pain and discomfort caused by harsh chemotherapy and cancer", " heavily involved with complex cancer issues", "too frail to sell her flat", "has suffered from 4 1/2 years of relentless Stage 4 cancer treatment" and "she's on morphine 24/7". Or maybe she's actually fine and just wants a nicer home. Edit: Didn't realize that I was in the 2021 suggestions thread. Arghton's thread bump confused me, it's like reading last week's newspaper.

Journalist Carol Gould is still struggling financially and health-wise according to her GoFundMe page. However, Wikipedia has the following: Latest Gofundme update (6 Jun): "Carol has suffered from 4 1/2 years of relentless Stage 4 cancer treatment and the absence of regular professional earnings." It also says that she is too frail to move from her home. Yet a month later, she is back working for BBC? I don't follow British media so you guys probably know better. https://www.gofundme.com/f/assist-carol-gould-wmajor-repair-building-work