Imelda

I couldn't find a thread that deals with alcohol, pubs etc. Sad news for the CAMRA types today: Bessie Davies, the “iconic” publican of the Dyffryn Arms pub in the Gwaun Valley in Pembrokeshire, has died at the age of 93. The Dyffryn Arms, fondly known by locals simply as Bessie’s, has featured in The Good Beer Guide for 40 successive years, despite having no wifi, no television, no bar, and serves “only Bass” through a hatch in the wall. Davies, who worked in the pub before becoming the owner for 73 years, died peacefully on Saturday 16 December and was one of the UK’s longest serving publicans. https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/12/93-year-old-landlady-whose-welsh-pub-served-only-bass-has-died/

ha ha, OK yes you are correct. Xmas deaths are always a nightmare. I'll go back to bed.

Charlie Bird. https://news.sky.com/story/former-rte-correspondent-charlie-bird-has-died-aged-74-13093105 BTW my scoreboard number is wrong above, with Bird's death I have the following Beckenbaur, Franz Bird, Charlie Delors, Jacques Draper, Derek Irwin, Jonnie Zagallo, Mario So that's 6

Under "weaknesses" you've put "dead" RIP big man

Die Mannschaft One of the all-time great full backs.

The press reports seem to be skipping over all those prostitutes he murdered in Ipswich

In the afterlife

Thought I'd start a thread for the musical and cultural phenomenon of Madchester seeing as many of the scene's movers and shakers are now entering their 60's, hoovered up vast amounts of drugs at the time, and are highly obitable. Triggered by watching this video and having a gasp at the state of Mike Pickering (Hacienda DJ, M People) - skip to 4.30. He looks terrible. On the other hand most of New Order look pretty good (although Bernard is now morphing into the old bloke who sits in the same chair in the pub every weekday afternoon nursing a pint of bitter, reading the paper and occasionally reminiscing about his time working for the local bus company).

A really underappreciated track. First heard on the classic Indie Top CD - volume 10, the best in the series!

Elland Brewery, two time winner of CAMRA's Champion Beer of Britain with 1872 Porter (which is a really, really good beer). https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/02/elland-brewery-faces-closure/

My missus used to go into Body Shop years ago when Roddick was in charge. Fell apart after, shoddy customer service and stopped innovating. Feels like a long time coming.

Dead Body Shop https://news.sky.com/story/new-body-shop-owner-to-call-in-administrators-for-uk-chain-13067609

Poor sod croaked just before the post-Xmas royalty cheque for Mary's Boy Child came through

From Lobbygate to Heaven's Gate

Hawkeye Pierce (played by Alan Alda) Margaret "Hot Lips" Houlihan (Loretta Swit) Radar O'Reilly (Gary Burghoff) Max Klinger (Jamie Farr) B.J. Hunnicutt (Mike Farrell) Jamie Farr: 22 August 2028 Might as well go with the random order, given they are all in their 80s.

As a political advisor he was involved in two political scandals, "Lobbygate" in 1998, and again in 2009 while Draper was editor of the LabourList website So an absolute nailed-on. Some of us are old enough to recall the sheer amount of headlines he generated.

Made the decision to drop Janey Godley, mainly as she strikes me as an absolutely shameless self-promoter who might well outlive Linda Nolan.

Aside from the handful that are basically recurring on the list for as long as it takes (DvD, Mel Brooks, Prunella Scales, Linda Nolan) regardless of whether it's actually likely they'll go, it looks a pretty solid line-up. Also Draper will easily QO, so a smart pick.

OK I will take it on the chin! I may well have been filling that in after a few festive tins, so apologies.

Beginning to think Julie Walters was a wasted pick but I submitted early to get it off my plate. I might be surprised.

There'll be some mug - Lampard's seeming inexhaustible supply of goodwill as an example. Both linked by Derby and Everton, oddly.

As much as I can't stand WHS, their financials are good at the moment - I'll eat my hat if they go into administration this side of 2030. Check them out - https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/smwh/financials/balance-sheet?countrycode=uk

Anne Baker Charlie Bird Danny Wallace (footballer) Derek Draper Douglas Hurd Erik Jensen Frank Field Franz Beckenbaur James Whale Jimmy Carter Jimmy Zoppi John Hemmingway (FO ) Jonnie Irwin Julie Walters June Spencer Linda Ronstadt Liza Minelli Louis van Gaal Nigel Starmer-Smith Norman Tebbit Patrick Murray Rob Burrow Song Ping JOKER Steve McMichael Yoko Ono Subs Denis Law Françoise Hardy

1 Franz Beckenbaur 2 Charlie Bird 3 Rob Burrow 4 Jimmy Carter 5 Derek Draper 6 Jonnie Irwin 7 Erik Jensen 8 Steve McMichael 9 Patrick Murray 10 Liza Minelli 11 Yoko Ono 12 Song Ping JOKER 13 Douglas Hurd 14 Linda Ronstadt 15 Nigel Starmer-Smith 16 Norman Tebbit 17 Louis van Gaal 18 Danny Wallace (footballer) 19 Julie Walters 20 James Whale S1 June Spencer S2 Frank Field

Nothing more complicated than sorting the longlist by age ascending on Excel... Vanessa Redgrave Arthur Scargill Ayatollah Ali Khamenei Paul Hogan Denis Law Esther Rantzen Frank Field Julie Goodyear Rick Davies Nigel Starmer-Smith Milos Zeman Franz Beckenbaur Dave Cousins Gunther von Hagens Khaleda Zia Marianne Faithfull Liza Minelli Kinda Ronstadt Charlie Bird Lindsey Busckingham Joe Bugner Julie Walters Phil Collins Louis Van Gaal James Whale Vladimir Putin Andy Ranken John Cannan Jimmy Zoppi Patrick Murray Steve McMichael Kenny Sansom Linda Nolan Andy Taylor Janey Godley Ronnie Atkins Danny Wallace (footballer) Derek Draper Erik Jensen Shannen Doherty Sophie Blake Jonnie Irwin Danniella Westbrook Princess Bajrakitiyabha Rob Burrow - JKR Joe Doering Elliot Page Lucy Letby Stephen Rezza Nick Anderton S1 Princess Alexandra of Kent S2 Roberta Flack