Octopus of Odstock

Give it time....

The two that really, for me, would be new lock-in additions are: Vic Elford (advanced cancer) Billy Bingham (in final stages of dementia) Both will get obits with no trouble at all. I'll also lob in Duke of Kent (Has been surprisingly active, but looks like utter shite and has done for a while) Nehemiah Persoff (Ancient, overweight and previous ill health) Jimmy Calderwood (Advanced dementia) - but you could take your pick from him and Joe Kinnear, Alan Peacock, Dave Watson, Mike Bailey and Tony Parkes, all of whom are in latter stages of dementia. Parkes and Kinnear especially so. Of the list: I would actually keep Mel Brooks on. This is on a gut feel and nothing to do with his general health, which seems excellent. He does look a lot frailer than, say two years ago to me. I agree with The Queen, Pope Benedict, Leslie Phillips, Jimmy Carter, Sidney Poitier being retained. I also agree Jerry Lee Lewis and Desmond Tutu should return. I'd also say cast-iron locks already mentioned (but in case anyone laughingly takes my opinion seriously); George Alagiah, Frank Field, Pele, Glynis Johns, James Watson The lock-in in terms of chances of dying, but not of getting an obituary is John Wickham. Has advanced MND. That is all.

Was an anti-vaxxer and died of COVID (all on Twitter).

Oh my goodness. Bobby and Al in the same year? Al had been struggling a little bit mind

Thanks @Ulitzer95 for such brilliant and thorough research. That post must've taken hours to do!

Vic Elford

Your list intrigued me, so I've gone back and looked at the differences. I hadn't seen Aputkhin's page on Wikipedia had been updated that he died in 2003, so thanks for that. I'll update my records and edit my post. I was also wondering why you didn't include Bencsics of Hungary and then I found this... https://www.magyarfutball.hu/hu/szemelyek/adatlap/108/bencsics_jozsef which I will update on Wikipedia. Thanks for this! Ranulfo Cortes died in 2000. Bravo I don't think I've found a date of death but I saw another report that referred to someone else or a few players as "the last surviving". Bravo wasn't on either list. Hovorka died 14th October 1996 (on numerous websites including Czech Wiki - https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A1clav_Hovorka) I can't find my records of why I removed Sesma and Villalba currently but I think in the latter case, it is similiar to the Bolivian's of 1950. There's no evidence they're dead, but equally there's no evidence of them alive.

Not quite: Here's the complete list: (Walter Beerli is one of those from 1950 who I can't prove is dead but I doubt is alive) 1950 World Cup – 4 survivors MexicoPlayerDoB/Age 1Antonio Carbajal(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 21) ChilePlayerDoB/ Age 9Manuel Muñoz(1928-04-28)28 April 1928 (aged 22) 12Andrés Prieto(1928-12-19)19 December 1928 (aged 21) ParaguayPlayerDoB/Age 9Darío Saguier(1926-09-11)11 September 1926 (aged 23) Definitely all dead: Brazil, Uruguay, Spain, Sweden, England, USA, Italy Believed all dead (but no information to confirm); Bolivia, Switzerland, Yugoslavia 1954 survivors –17 Definitely all dead: Yugoslavia, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, Brazil, England, Austria, West Germany, Switzerland, South Korea France No......Pos......Player...........................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 1........1GK.....François Remetter.......(1928-08-08)8 August 1928 (aged 25)..........4..............FC Metz Mexico No......Pos......Player.....................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 1........1GK.....Antonio Carbajal....(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 25)..............11...........FC León 7........4FW....Alfredo Torres.........(1931-05-31)31 May 1931 (aged 23)............3.............Atlas Turkey No......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 2.......2DF......Rıdvan Bolatlı........(1928-12-02)2 December 1928 (aged 25).....2............MKE Ankaragücü SK 10.....4FW.....Burhan Sargun.....(1929-02-11)11 February 1929 (aged 25).....5............Fenerbahçe SK 12.....1GK.....Şükrü Ersoy..........(1934-01-14)14 January 1934 (aged 20).......3............Vefa SK 15.....3MF.....Mehmet Dinçer......(1933-02-20)20 February 1933 (aged 21).....0...........Fenerbahçe SK 17.....2DF.....Naci Erdem............(1931-01-28)28 January 1931 (aged 23).......0...........Fenerbahçe SK 18.....2DF.....Kaçmaz Akgün.......(1935-02-19)19 February 1935 (aged 19).....1..........MKE Ankaragücü SK 22.....4FW....Coşkun Taş............(1935-04-23)23 April 1935 (aged 19)............2..........MKE Ankaragücü SK Uruguay No......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 2........2DF.....José Santamaría...(1929-07-31)31 July 1929 (aged 24)............3.............Nacional 6........3MF....Roberto Leopardi...(1933-07-19)19 July 1933 (aged 20)............3.............Nacional 18......4FW...Rafael Souto..........(1930-10-24)24 October 1930 (aged 23).......4...........Nacional 20......4FW...Omar Méndez.........(1934-08-07)7 August 1934 (aged 19)..........3...........Nacional Scotland No......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 22.....4FW....Ian McMillan*...............(1931-03-18)18 March 1931 (aged 23)........3............Airdrieonians Only 13 members of the squad actually travelled. McMillan was not required to travel and stayed at home. Italy No......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 9........4FW....Carlo Galli.................(1931-03-06)6 March 1931 (aged 23)...........2.............Roma 18......3MF....Gino Pivatelli.............(1933-03-27)27 March 1933 (aged 21)..........0............Bologna 1958 –53 survivors - Definitely all dead: Scotland West Germany No......Pos.......Player..............................DoB/Age 12......4FW......Uwe Seeler.....................(1936-11-05)5 November 1936 (aged 21) 17......2DF.......Karl-Heinz Schnellinger...(1939-03-31)31 March 1939 (aged 19) 20......2DF.......Hermann Nuber*.............(1935-10-10)10 October 1935 (aged 22) Did not travel to Sweden. Northern Ireland No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 7.........4FW.....Billy Bingham................(1931-08-05)5 August 1931 (aged 26) 11.......4FW.....Peter McParland...........(1934-04-25)25 April 1934 (aged 24) 22.......4FW.....Bobby Trainor*..............Unknown Czechoslovakia No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 2.........2DF.......Gustav Mráz.................(1934-09-11)11 September 1934 (aged 23) 3.........3MF......Jiří Čadek......................(1935-12-07)7 December 1935 (aged 22) 8.........4FW.....Milan Dvořák.................(1934-11-19)19 November 1934 (aged 23) 17.......2DF.....Titus Buberník................(1933-10-12)12 October 1933 (aged 24) 18.......3MF.....Adolf Scherer..................(1938-05-05)5 May 1938 (aged 20) Argentina No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 10......4FW......Alfredo Rojas................(1937-02-20)20 February 1937 (aged 21) 15......2DF.......David Acevedo..............(1937-02-20)20 February 1937 (aged 21) 18......4FW......Norberto Boggio............(1931-08-11)11 August 1931 (aged 26) 21......4FW......José Sanfilippo..............(1935-05-04)4 May 1935 (aged 23) 22......4FW......Osvaldo Cruz.................(1931-05-29)29 May 1931 (aged 27) France No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 2........1GK.......Dominique Colonna......(1928-09-04)4 September 1928 (aged 29) 3........1GK.......François Remetter........(1928-08-08)8 August 1928 (aged 29) 7........2DF.......Robert Mouynet.............(1930-03-25)25 March 1930 (aged 28) 8........3MF.......Bernard Chiarelli............(1934-02-24)24 February 1934 (aged 24) 17......4FW.....Just Fontaine...................(1933-07-18)18 July 1933 (aged 24) 22......4FW.....Maryan Wisnieski.............(1937-02-01)1 February 1937 (aged 21) Yugoslavia No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 19......4FW.....Radivoje Ognjanović.......(1933-07-01)1 July 1933 (aged 24) Paraguay No.......Pos.......Player..........................................DoB/Age 13.......2DF.......Luis Gini......................................(1935-10-31)31 October 1935 (aged 22) 120.......4FW......José Raúl Aveiro..........................(1936-07-18)18 July 1936 (aged 21) Sweden No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 7.........4FW.....Kurt Hamrin...................(1934-11-19)19 November 1934 (aged 23) 15.......3MF.....Reino Börjesson............(1929-02-04)4 February 1929 (aged 29) 22.......4FW....Ove Olsson....................(1938-08-19)19 August 1938 (aged 19) Wales No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 7.........4FW......Terry Medwin...............(1932-09-25)25 September 1932 (aged 25) 11.......4FW......Cliff Jones....................(1935-02-07)7 February 1935 (aged 23) 14.......2DF.......Trevor Edwards...........(1937-01-24)24 January 1937 (aged 21) 22.......3MF.......George Baker..............(1934-04-06)6 April 1934 (aged 24) Hungary No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 17.......4FW.....Mihály Vasas.................1933 19.......4FW.....Zoltán Friedmanszky......Unknown 21.......4FW.....Máté Fenyvesi...............(1933-09-20)20 September 1933 (aged 24) Mexico No.......Pos.......Player..................................DoB/Age 1.........1GK.....Antonio Carbajal (captain)...(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 29) 2.........2DF.....Jesús del Muro.....................(1937-11-30)30 November 1937 (aged 20) #4.........2DF.....José Villegas........................(1934-06-20)20 June 1934 (aged 23) 10.......4FW....Crescencio Gutiérrez............(1933-10-26)26 October 1933 (aged 24) Brazil No.......Pos.......Player......................................DoB/Age 5.........3MF.....Dino Sani...................................(1932-05-23)23 May 1932 (aged 26) 7.........4FW....Mário Zagallo.............................(1931-08-09)9 August 1931 (aged 26) 10.......4FW....Pelé...........................................(1940-10-23)23 October 1940 (aged 17) 13.......3MF.....Moacir.........................................(1936-05-18)18 May 1936 (aged 22) 18.......4FW....Mazzola.......................................(1938-07-24)24 July 1938 (aged 19) 22.......4FW....Pepe............................................(1935-02-25)25 February 1935 (aged 23) Soviet Union No.......Pos.......Player......................................DoB/Age 9.........4FW......Nikita Simonyan (captain)........(1926-10-12)12 October 1926 (aged 31) England No.......Pos.......Player......................................DoB/Age 1.........1GK......Colin McDonald.......................(1930-10-15)15 October 1930 (aged 27) 3.........2DF.......Tommy Banks..........................(1929-11-10)10 November 1929 (aged 28) 7.........4FW......Bryan Douglas........................(1934-05-27)27 May 1934 (aged 24) 16.......2DF......Maurice Norman.......................(1934-05-08)8 May 1934 (aged 24) 20.......3MF......Bobby Charlton........................(1937-10-11)11 October 1937 (aged 20) Austria No.......Pos.......Player......................................DoB/Age 9.........4FW.....Hans Buzek..............................(1938-05-22)22 May 1938 (aged 20) 17.......3MF......Ernst Kozlicek..........................(1931-01-27)27 January 1931 (aged 27) 1962 – 106 survivors Soviet Union 9 MF Nikolai Manoshin 6 March 1938 (aged 24) 11 MF Yozhef Sabo 1 March 1940 (aged 22) Yugoslavia 1 GK Milutin Šoškić 31 December 1937 (aged 24) 11 FW Josip Skoblar 12 March 1941 (aged 21) 15 MF Željko Matuš 9 August 1935 (aged 26) 19 GK Mirko Stojanović 11 June 1939 (aged 22) 21 FW Nikola Stipić 18 December 1937 (aged 24) Uruguay 4 DF Omar Méndez 11 May 1938 (aged 24) 7 FW Domingo Pérez 7 June 1936 (aged 25) 8 MF Julio César Cortés 29 March 1941 (aged 21) 12 GK Luis Maidana 24 February 1934 (aged 28) 14 DF Rubén Soria 23 January 1935 (aged 27) 16 DF Rubén González 17 July 1939 (aged 22) 18 MF Ronald Langón 6 August 1939 (aged 22) 22 FW Guillermo Escalada 24 April 1936 (aged 26) Colombia 2 GK Achito Vivas 1 March 1934 (aged 28) 10 MF Rolando Serrano 13 November 1938 (aged 23) 12 MF Hernando Tovar 7 June 1938 (aged 23) 18 FW Eusebio Escobar 2 July 1936 (aged 25) 22 FW Jairo Arias 2 November 1938 (aged 23) West Germany 3 DF Karl-Heinz Schnellinger 31 March 1939 (aged 23) 4 DF Willi Schulz 4 October 1938 (aged 23) 5 DF Leo Wilden 3 July 1936 (aged 25) 7 MF Willi Koslowski 17 February 1937 (aged 25) 9 FW Uwe Seeler 5 November 1936 (aged 25) 15 MF Willi Giesemann 2 September 1937 (aged 24) 18 MF Günther Herrmann 1 September 1939 (aged 22) 22 GK Wolfgang Fahrian 31 May 1941 (aged 20) Chile 2 DF Luis Eyzaguirre 22 June 1939 (aged 22) 4 DF Sergio Navarro 20 November 1936 (aged 25) 8 MF Jorge Toro 10 January 1939 (aged 23) 11 FW Leonel Sánchez 25 April 1936 (aged 26) 12 GK Adán Godoy 26 November 1936 (aged 25) 16 DF Humberto Cruz 6 December 1934 (aged 27) 19 FW Braulio Musso 24 May 1937 (aged 25) 22 GK Manuel Astorga 16 March 1943 (aged 19) Italy 1 GK Lorenzo Buffon (captain) 19 December 1929 (aged 32) 2 DF Giacomo Losi 9 November 1935 (aged 26) 6 MF Giovanni Trapattoni 17 March 1939 (aged 23) 8 FW Humberto Maschio 20 February 1933 (aged 29) 9 FW José Altafini 24 July 1938 (aged 23) 11 FW Giampaolo Menichelli 29 June 1938 (aged 23) 13 GK Enrico Albertosi 2 November 1939 (aged 22) 14 FW Gianni Rivera 18 August 1943 (aged 18) 15 FW Angelo Sormani 3 July 1939 (aged 22) 16 DF Enzo Robotti 13 June 1935 (aged 26) Switzerland 9 FW Roberto Frigerio 16 May 1938 (aged 24) 10 DF Fritz Kehl 12 July 1937 (aged 24) 12 FW Marcel Vonlanthen 8 September 1933 (aged 28) 19 FW Gilbert Rey 30 October 1930 (aged 31) Brazil 10 FW Pelé 23 October 1940 (aged 21) 11 FW Pepe 25 February 1935 (aged 27) 17 MF Mengálvio 17 December 1939 (aged 22) 18 FW Jair da Costa 9 July 1940 (aged 21) 20 FW Amarildo 29 June 1939 (aged 22) 21 FW Zagallo 9 August 1931 (aged 30) Czechoslovakia 2 DF Jan Lála 10 September 1936 (aged 25) 7 MF Jozef Štibrányi 11 April 1940 (aged 22) 8 FW Adolf Scherer 5 May 1938 (aged 24) 11 FW Josef Jelínek 9 January 1941 (aged 21) 14 FW Václav Mašek 21 March 1941 (aged 21) 16 DF Titus Buberník 12 October 1933 (aged 28) Mexico 1 GK Antonio Carbajal (captain) 7 June 1929 (aged 32) 2 DF Jesús del Muro 30 November 1937 (aged 24) 4 DF José Villegas 20 June 1934 (aged 27) 11 FW Isidoro Díaz 14 March 1940 (aged 22) 14 MF Pedro Romero 12 April 1937 (aged 25) 15 DF Ignacio Jáuregui 31 July 1938 (aged 23) 16 MF Salvador Farfán 22 June 1932 (aged 29) 18 FW Alfredo Hernández 18 June 1935 (aged 26) 21 FW Alberto Baeza 6 December 1938 (aged 23) Spain 1 GK José Araquistáin 4 March 1937 (aged 25) 2 GK Salvador Sadurní 3 April 1941 (aged 21) 3 GK Carmelo 6 December 1930 (aged 31) 4 FW Enrique Collar 2 November 1934 (aged 27) FW Francisco Gento 21 October 1933 (aged 28) 16 DF Severino Reija 25 November 1938 (aged 23) 17 DF Rodri 8 March 1934 (aged 28) 0 18 MF Adelardo 26 September 1939 (aged 22) 19 DF José Santamaría 31 July 1929 (aged 32) 21 FW Luis Suárez 2 May 1935 (aged 27) Hungary 3 DF Kálmán Mészöly 16 July 1941 (aged 20) 11 FW Máté Fenyvesi 20 September 1933 (aged 28) 17 FW Gyula Rákosi 9 October 1938 (aged 23)) 20 FW László Bödör 17 August 1933 (aged 28) 21 GK Antal Szentmihályi 3 June 1937 (aged 24) England 1 FW Bobby Charlton 11 October 1937 (aged 24) 15 DF Maurice Norman 8 May 1934 (aged 28) 17 MF Bryan Douglas 27 May 1934 (aged 28) 19 FW Alan Peacock 29 October 1937 (aged 24). 20 MF George Eastham 23 September 1936 (aged 25) Argentina 5 MF Federico Sacchi 9 August 1936 (aged 25) 6 DF Raúl Páez 26 May 1937 (aged 25) 9 FW Marcelo Pagani 19 August 1941 (aged 20) 10 FW José Sanfilippo 4 May 1935 (aged 27) 14 DF Alberto Mariotti 23 August 1935 (aged 26) 16 MF Antonio Rattín 16 May 1937 (aged 25) 20 FW Juan Carlos Oleniak 4 March 1942 (aged 20) 21 MF Ramón Abeledo 29 April 1937 (aged 25) 22 FW Alberto González 21 August 1941 (aged 20) Bulgaria 4 MF Stoyan Kitov 27 August 1938 (aged 23) 5 DF Dimitar Kostov 26 July 1936 (aged 25) 8 DF Dimitar Dimov 13 December 1937 (aged 24) 1 FW Dimitar Yakimov 12 July 1941 (aged 20) 12 DF Dobromir Zhechev 12 November 1942 (aged 19) 22 FW Georgi Nikolov 1 May 1931 (aged 31)

4 1950 confirmed. Possible there's another 2 around but I doubt it. 17 1954 - at least 11 are definitely alive. I have doubts about 2 Turks (Bolatli and Dincer) and one Uruguayan (Souto) 55 1958 - most of whom are definitely still alive. Only a handful of hmmms 106 1962 but some of those are questionable but I'm sure will be filtered out as the years progress.

But in good news - there's a recent interview with Manuel Munoz from the 1950 World Cup - where he confirms team-mate Andre Prieto is also still alive. Munoz is a fair shout of the 4 remaining to be the last standing. https://www.latercera.com/el-deportivo/noticia/manuel-colo-colo-munoz-hubiera-sido-una-verguenza-llevar-mi-apodo-a-la-b/HITUEIBYSFA2FIQRS4CBRVRIQ4/

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There are now less than 20 remaining players from the 1954 World Cup. A bit of research has found Marcel Mauron, thought to be the last Swiss survivor, died in 1998. (I've updated Wikipedia). Looks like Park Jae-Seung died in 2015, so he was the last Korean survivor. Alfredo Torres of Mexico IS still going, but only just - at 90 years of age, he is 'delicate'. https://thenewstrace.com/pistache-torres-legend-of-atlas-left-the-hospital-after-being-reported-as-delicate/193766/

When you look at that picture and then the one here AND the age, it has to be the same man.https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chester-city-fc-sealand-road-5218434 Well done Thatcher, good work. Another one gone, it's taken a battering and GRO 2020 will likely reduce it further.

Scotland's ten oldest living internationals by the way. Luton Town have the oldest England international (Ron Baynham) and 2nd oldest Scottish international. Ian McMillan (Airdrieonians and Rangers), 6 caps 1952-61, 18 March 1931 Mike Cullen (Luton Town), 1 cap 1956, 3 July 1931 Jimmy Millar (Rangers), 2 caps 1963, 20 November 1934 David Holt (Hearts), 5 caps 1963-64, 3 January 1936 George Herd (Clyde), 5 caps 1958-61, 6 May 1936 Ralph Brand (Rangers), 8 caps 1961-62, 8 December 1936 Tommy Ewing (Partick Thistle), 2 caps 1958, 2 May 1937 Willie Bell (Leeds United), 2 caps 1966, 3 September 1937 Jackie Plenderleith (Hibernian), 1 cap 1960, 6 October 1937 Ron Yeats (Liverpool), 2 caps 1964-66, 15 November 1937

Well he is a councillor. If he was involved in Chester's council, Greenwood was also involved in a council job. Time to do some sleuthing..

Hmm.. Greenwood lives (d) in Chester. This geezer is from Windermere. Is there a Cumbrian Peter Greenwood?

Sir Frank was such an incredibly resilient chap, he went on a lot longer than I thought he would. An unique individual. RIP

Just an aside to confirm Jimmy Binning died in the 1990's - https://blantyreproject.com/2019/06/ian-jimmy-binning-footballer/ so Ian McMillan is the only surviving member of the squad, albeit he didn't travel. Denis Law, now 81, is the oldest living Scot to have played World Cup Finals football (1974) and behind him it's Willie Morgan, now 77.

Aside from Cowie being a Dundee legend, he was also the last surviving player from the 1958 Scotland World Cup squad. Therefore, Scotland are the first team from 1958 to have all their squad pass away. Time marches on...

Probably has terminal pancreatic cancer and weeks to live. It won't be shut down. More likely that because of excess deaths last year, they're running behind. You should be thankful it's only one year behind. I remember the days when I had to go to Westminster as all records stopped in 2006 online. Trawling through 5 years of records took forever.

No, this is incorrect. Nino Tempo is still alive.

This will get filled up more near or past January, but I've had to cut - at a self-imposed deadline a number of people - 76 potential picks down to 40 for the one-month-to-go-deadline. So here's an alternate DDP entry list of 20 of those who I'm sure will either die but had to drop for tactical or obit doubt reasons, and others that I've just got a hunch that they'll survive***; **** (if some of the below announce terminal cancer diagnoses or similiar in the next 4 weeks, I reserve the right to repick them) I wonder how these 20 will end up comparing with the picked 20. Mario Oriani-Ambrosini Casey Kasem Superstar Billy Graham Ronnie Biggs Naomi Thomas Anto Finnegan Clive Derby-Lewis Chick WIllis King Bhumibol Lynda Bellingham Clark Datchler Robert Schuller Bobby Heenan Henry McCullough Jimmy Hill Adolfo Suarez Joe McGinniss Tony Dorsett Terry Biddlecombe Fernando Ricksen

Good find! You would expect to mention her father if he was alive. I think the reason it mentions the in laws is because one of them was alive (it's badly worded but I'm going for Rex being deceased and his wife being alive) therefore th y are mentioned in the obituary. As her parents were already dead, if this is to be interpreted this way, then they wouldn't be mentioned.

I had heard rumours about Hampson moving to Australia but this cements it somewhat. Thanks for your efforts, I'm going to try and tie as many of these off in 2022.

He did mention Remembrance Day specifically. I'm going for dead. However I've tried to contact either the webpage or the son.