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    Time Added

    Progress recently has been made on the oldest footballers again - 19 clubs to go before people are rechecked again via three sources but I have found this nugget - https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/huddersfield-town-players-now-16413265 which rules out Graham Bailey as living (22/3/20) but confirms Albert Bateman 13/6/1924 as still alive.
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    FIFA World Cup Players

    Jose Luis Brown, scorer of one of the goals in the 1986 World Cup final for Argentina has died. He was only 62 and suffered with dementia. A regular header of the ball too... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/797939/breaking-jose-luis-brown-dead-diego-maradona-argentina-world-cup-1986/amp
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    FIFA World Cup Players

    Although there is an argument this could be within the Time Added thread, to be fair there is 8,000,000 threads about music, so why not two about football. Some of those interested enough would have noticed my posts on early deaths of World Cup Players - but this is Deathlist and DDP ideas are wanted, I am sure and it is unlikely Emile Heskey, Paolo Wanchope and Philippe Lahm are going to be on many death pools. In time, I& will try and do all the pre-1962 surviving players, but for now, I will round up the 1950 players and pre-1938 - of which there is only one, Rene Llense, who is near 100 (EDIT Now dead). He was however a squad player who never played. Of the 1950 players, there are a maximum of 40 alive. However that World Cup saw a lot of South American teams, whose players are virtual unknowns, so the likelihood is that more Mexicans, Chilean, Bolivian and Paraguyan players are dead. 1954 and 1958 should be slightly more accurate. Some famous names on there though and some certainly worth a stab on the DDP. This will also be where other World Cup Players' deaths can be posted - and why not start as I mean to go on, with the death of Jan Zlocha, who played for the Czechoslovakian team in 1970 - 7 of their squad dead already. http://www.cas.sk/cl...ntant-cssr.html (IN Czech) Note the below is only who played, not squad members (like Llense); Switzerland||| Player ||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Adolphe Hug|||||||||||||||(1923-09-23)23 September 1923 (aged 26) Yugoslavia||| Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||| DoB/Age 13||||||||||||||||||||||||Željko Čajkovski|||||||||(1925-05-05)5 May 1925 (aged 25) Mexico|||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 1|||||||||||||||||||||||||Antonio Carbajal||||||(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 21) 16|||||||||||||||||||||Carlos Guevara|||||||||1930 8||||||||||||||||||||||||||Héctor Ortiz||||||||||||||||(1928-12-20)20 December 1928 (aged 21) 9||||||||||||||||||||||||||Mario Pérez||||||||||||||(1927-02-19)19 February 1927 (aged 23) 7|||||||||||||||||||||||||Carlos Septién||||||||||(1923-01-18)18 January 1923 (aged 27) England||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -|||||||||||||||||||||||Roy Bentley||||||||||||||||||||(1924-05-17)17 May 1924 (aged 26) Chile||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/ Age -4|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Álvarez Jiménez|||||||||||||(1928-05-23)23 May 1928 (aged 22) 2||||||||||||||||||||||Arturo Farías|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1927-11-01)1 November 1927 (aged 22) 15|||||||||||||||||||Carlos Ibáñez|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1931-11-30)30 November 1931 (aged 18) 8||||||||||||||||||||||Luis Mayanés|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-01-15)15 January 1925 (aged 25) 9|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Muñoz|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1928-04-28)28 April 1928 (aged 22) 12|||||||||||||||||||Andrés Prieto|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1928-12-19)19 December 1928 (aged 21) 3|||||||||||||||||||||Fernando Roldán||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1921-04-01)1 April 1921 (aged 29) USA|||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 6|||||||||||||||||||||Walter Bahr||||||||||||||||||(1927-04-01)1 April 1927 (aged 23) Sweden||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 9|||||||||||||||||||||Karl-Erik Palmér||||||||(1929-04-17)17 April 1929 (aged 21) Italy||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 8|||||||||||||||||||Giampiero Boniperti||||||||(1928-07-04)4 July 1928 (aged 21) 14|||||||||||||||||Osvaldo Fattori||||||||||||||||(1922-06-22)22 June 1922 (aged 28) -2||||||||||||||||||Attilio Giovannini|||||||||||||(1924-07-30)30 July 1924 (aged 25) 17||||||||||||||||Egisto Pandolfini|||||||||||||||(1926-02-19)19 February 1926 (aged 24) Paraguay||||||||Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 8|||||||||||||||||||||||||Atilio López||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-02-05)5 February 1925 (aged 25) 9|||||||||||||||||||||||||Darío Saguier||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1926-09-11)11 September 1926 (aged 23) Bolivia|||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -4|||||||||||||||||||||Antonio Greco||||||||||||||||(1923-09-17)17 September 1923 (aged 26) 24 survivors (who played a game) **Note this (being alive) is presumed in the case of 3 teams*** There's also only a few others who might be alive that were a squad member: Switzerland: Friedlander, Lusenti, Siegenthaler, Beerli, Gyger Yugoslavia: Zlatkovic Mexico: Cuburu, Cordoba, M Gutierrez Chile: Rojas Italy: Caprile Paraguay: Berni, Paredes, Canete, Cantero Bolivia: a lot of them but I think they've all gone
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    Golf: The 19th Hole

    You're right. English GB was 1983
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    Golf: The 19th Hole

    I think the Ryder Cup Gordon Brand is different. He was English, this guy Scottish. Could be wrong tho.
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    The Chequered Flag

    Drivers who are poorly or have an illness of some sort: Bondurant, Campbell - Jones (dementia or similar age related issues) Ashmore, von Rooyen (cancer) Tambay, Laffite, W Fittipaldi (Parkinson's) Cabral and Edwards have age-related issues. I'm sure there is a few more but I can't remember currently. Obit chances of the non-Parkinson's trio? Probably only Bondurant, maybe.
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    16. Murray Walker

    We don't see Murray as much as we used to. He wasn't at Goodwood or Silverstone this year whereas he would normally make at least one event. But he Is still out and about and travelling fair distances from his home https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/murray-walker-royal-automobile-club-talk-show I would hope he's got a good few years yet but is getting noticeably frailer (albeit doing okay as he is nearly 96)
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    22. Stirling Moss

    Of course, SCM is as strong as an ox as proved by surviving numerous scrapes in times of yore, but unfortunately he does need to stay on the list I think.
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    22. Stirling Moss

    Msc, It's the same illness for SCM that ruled him out of public life. Sadly he is too poorly at the moment. I can't say too much more than that out of respect.
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    FIFA World Cup Players

    Well to be totally honest, I was doing very well until May when I was commissioned to write a motor racing book. So it's come to a bit of a standstill but I still intend to complete it (oldest footballers) this year.
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    FIFA World Cup Players

    Just to say that apart from the aforementioned Sammy Chapman, one other 2019 non-playing squad member death is that of 1954 Swiss player Ivo Frosio back in April. Also found out Franz Swoboda of Austria died in 2017. Totals are IIRC 8 living from 1950 39 from 1954 77 from 1958
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    Ideas and Possibilities for 2020

    Only 3 going strong now
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    Ideas and Possibilities for 2020

    Tahiras dead. Complications. 1 down, 6 to go.
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    Sexy Politicans

    Although this has been broached before on the Colombian footballers thread, the thought has been reignited in my head of sexy politicans after I turned on GMTV at 06.10 the other morning & there was a sexy young scamp on the TV. "Ah good" I said, "always good to see at 6.10am, a nubile young female", but imagine my shock when the caption said she was a MP - Jenny Willott, of the Lib Dems So, I think it is high time to discuss sexy politicians. Now this is open to both male & female members, of course, but these are my suggestions for sexiest female politician: Let the debate** (**one post, probably from CP as a sympathy post ) begin!
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    Cartoonists And Animators

    FWIW, Emperor Quon from Sofia the First was named in Milton's honour. Not that it helps much with obit chances.
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    FIFA World Cup Players

    Another unused player from 1982 was Roberto Bailey of Honduras. He was killed in a car accident a few weeks ago after returning from a funeral.
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    FIFA World Cup Players

    Roldan WAS still alive until a couple of days ago. Giovaninni now becomes the oldest living from 1950. If Park-Jae Seung from 1954 is still alive (believe so) then he's the oldest living (born 1923)
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    The Chequered Flag

    Won't get a UK obit. If Herd is struggling no chance she will.
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    Political Frailty

    Thanks that's saved me watching it!
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    Ooo's Ddp Farewell List

    After about a good 5 months of self-mass debating , I'm decided that this year's DDP will be my last after 11 years. I haven't had the time, since January to properly check up on my picks, or add new names, and I've noticed I haven't had the interest in doing so. When DDT posted that Adolfo Suarez was near his imminent death, in years gone by I probably would've done and some more likewise, but bar feeling sadness that a man who did a lot to lead Spain from a dictatoral mess to a thriving country has died, the normal feelings of "oh arse, someone I've picked 3 out of the last 4 years but didn't picked this bugger shit bugger face" weren't there. It's not just because I'm doing badly this year, I'd decided if I won last year, I'd stop then. That's partly why I also gave the Brian Hart gimmee away. Anyway, enough of this drivel. This isn't farewell to the DL - I still feel a call of duty to update the World Cup players list and my personal survivors list and there is the odd thread I think's worthwhile posting in, but I have cut back. Nothing wrong with DL, it's just with kids and an increased workload, it's time to move on in life. Below is an semi-alphabetical list of OoO's tips not discussed anywhere that I've seen - all the obvious names are removed, but feel free to use or ignore at your leisure - there's no point me keeping it secret any more I hope they bring luck to you Francesco Acerbi, 26, footballer, cancer Ralph Boettinger, 53, Businessman, cancer Lord Blyth, 74, politician, illhealth Unita Blackwell, 81, activist, dementia Asa Briggs, 93, historian, frail/ill health Barbara Cooke, 87, opera singer, frail Neil Cunningham, 52, racing driver, Motor neurone disease Sammy Cox, 89, footballer, frail/ill health Clive Clarke, 74, footballer, dementia/ill health Kenneth Cope, 83, actor, COPD Salvatore di Masi, 69, politician, cancer Nowr El Sharif, 68, actor, cancer?/ill health Hal Faulkner, 79, soldier, cancer Martin Foran, 70, criminal, cancer Anto Finnegan, 41, gaelic footballer, MND Andrew Florent, tennis player, terminal cancer Gyula Grocsics, 87, footballer, frail/illhealth Dale Griffin, 66, drummer, demenita Alan Henry, 67, motor racing journalist, Parkinson's Ron Henry, 80, footballer, dementia Carl Haas, 84, businessman/racing boss, dementia King Juan Carlos, King of Spain, frail (and I suspect iller than being let on) Agnes Keleti, 93, gymnast, old/frail Bill Longmore, 77, police commissioner, cancer Robert Lindsay, 87, Earl of Crawford, ill health Baroness Lockwood, 90, politican, ill health Jack Lopresti, 45, MP, cancer Sir Douglas Myers, 75, businessman, cancer Ernest Maxim, 91, choreographer, frail Jim McElreath, 86, racing driver, frail/ill health Jimmy McIlroy, 81, footballer, ill health Nicky McFadden, 52, politician, MND Hanif Mohammed, 80, cricketer, cancer Ib Melchior, 97, film director, frail Carlo Mastrangelo, 77, singer, cancer Olive Nicol, 91, politician, ill heath Tim Price, 57, local politican (Devizes), terminal cancer Lord Gwilliam Prys-Davies, 92, politican, ill health Bernardo Provenzano, 81, mafia boss, mutliple ill-health incl Parkinson's Divya Palat, 31, actress, cancer/MS George Rhoden, 88, athlete, frail Jacques Rivette, 86, film director, dementia Gerald Sim, 89, actor, dementia Agne Simonsson, 77, footballer, dementia Leon Spinks, 71, boxer, ill health Michael Sata, 77, Ugandan President, ill health Naomi Thomas, 32, mother, terminal cancer Kris Taylor, 31, footballer, cancer Baron Thomas of Macclesfield, 77, politican, ill health Joe Thompson, 24, footballer, cancer Lord Vincent of Coleshill, 83, Military bigwig, 83, ill health Mal Whitfield, 90, athlete, heart disease/frail Ray Wilson, 80, footballer, Parkinson's Disease Maurice White, 74, singer, Parkinson's Disease Cheers all, it's been a pleasure.
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    Ideas and Possibilities for 2020

    Well this doesn't sound as promising; https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2337663846285316&id=121769391208117
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    Ooo's Ddp Farewell List

    Cross-referenced in a number of threads but Baroness Lockwood is dead.
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    FIFA World Cup Players

    Recent passings: Lamrani Morocco 1970 Armbruster Switzerland 1966 Alexander Kostov Bulgaria 1962 and 1966 Watzlich East Germany 1974 Valdes Chile 1962 Burgin, Broadis etc were mentioned here.
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    Gardens And Gardeners

    Twas tending the garden today and it's a fair bit of effort. Not that I was anywhere near carking it, but it's quite hard physical work - depending on the size of your garden, of course, and how often you tend it. If it's this big, then it's less physical exertion and of course, people in flats do not have gardens, so their exertion comes via stairs perhaps, but never mind all this babble... it got me to thinking, how many famous people have died in the garden, either by accident or otherwise? Then it got me thinking... the Deathlist does not have a Gardeners thread. Maybe this is all it is missing to make it the jolly place it used to be. Maybe this is a thread too far, but watching the Royal Chelsea Flower Show on Sunday (what a rock and roll lifestyle, I lead!) meant I saw many an old fart gardener.... so maybe it's good for you? Anyway, Death by Garden; Vittorio Brambilla, racing driver, died of h/a whilst working in his garden. Er, that's all I could find. Famous Gardeners (worthy of mention for DL/DDP purposes, so no Titchmarsh etc.): Beth Chatto, b. 1923 Michael Hesletine is an arboriculturist. Peter Cundall b. 1927 Roy Lancaster b. 1937 Art Drysdale b. 1939 whilst Peter Seabrook must be in his 80's by now?
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    Time Added

    I'm working on this. There will be another OoO megalist later this year. I'm compiling the list at the moment and am doing it by alphabetical order by club. At the moment, I'm on Charlton so there's some way to go yet but I'm already on 150 names. Once the list is done I'll check the names and delete those gone and then we should have a complete list.
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