DDP Salvage Lot 2021

[Joey Russ 7,119]

As usual, I’m sure there are many names we all considered for the DDP that for whatever reason we end up axing them in the end. So who is in your salvage lot this year? Will reveal mine after I reveal my main DDP team tomorrow (not New Years Day yet here at the time of this post)

[Youth in Asia 1,023]

Tommy Docherty was one for me (luckily). Hamish Barbour was another. Larry King. Leon Spinks. Billy Connoly. I just don't believe they will die in 2021.

[Perhaps 1,365]

David Byrd - in ICU with COVID, I didn't want to risk him recovering and having an annoyingly healthy person on my team all year.

Tom Weiskopf  -  was tempting to include him but I figured it may been a fraction too early. Could easily die later in the year if treatment isn't effective.

Rush Limbaugh - a bit of a stupid for me to leave him off, for some reason I thought he was turning 80 this year instead of 70.

Greg Gilbert - seems a little bit too stable for me to include him for now. Could easily have a quick downturn at any point though. He's on year 5 with stage 4 iirc?

Alan Dean Foster - wasn't satisfied with the little information around his cancer diagnosis.

Jim Hagedorn - read the news he had 90% of his cancer removed (+ a kidney) a couple of days before I submitted, but I guess that doesn't necessarily mean he's out of the woods.

[gcreptile 10,223]

For now, I will only have one regret:

Floyd Little didn't die, so I am stuck with him instead of my first sub Gerd Müller, who I actually wanted to pick more.

More later.

[Spade_Cooley 9,019]

Tahir Mughal - Couldn't work out how important a cricketer he was. The fact that his Wikipedia profile isn't formatted properly was what made me think he's not going to QO.

Biz Markie - Really, really wanted to pick him on the "any legendary rapper that announces health issues dies from them" principle (Guru, Nate Dogg). Just couldn't find any space for him.

Nigel Oakes - Cambridge Analytica figure. Guaranteed QO. I found one reference to him having terminal cancer in the middle of a completely unrelated article and nothing else. Could have been an amazing tip or just a misunderstanding.

Snowy Dyson - Fascinating pick, former UK #1 ranked disabled darts player, was experimented on as a schoolchild with sedatives in a mild scandal and a former bodyguard for Kylie Minogue. It was either him or Zoe Davison and I just felt she was a guaranteed 100% death, knocking him out of the running.

Carla Campbell - Bounty hunter focus of the documentary series Love Fraud. Definitely dying, but her show wasn't a massive hit and I think that will stop her getting any Daily Mail coverage. Of course if TMZ write it up the Mail will copy...

Lieutenant Colonel David Price - former director of music for the Scots Guards. I was ecstatic when I found this name, but then I looked into it and found out that the last two directors of music for the Scots Guards who died didn't get QOs. Weird.

Antonio Inoki - Another "really wanted to pick him" name, but couldn't find the space. Will be this year's Kenny Rogers for me I'm sure.

[msc 17,759]

Hannah Wants/Shannen Doherty - Decided to go for one relapse stage iv breast cancer case only. Feel like both could be big decision names this year though.

Rob Burrow - I think he's got the faster MND type going on prognosis and deteroiration but that should take him to 2022 just.

Sunday Burquest - Felt they were a bit too fringey for a DDP co-host to pick.

Justin Yerbury - A victim of my caution against ALS picks this year. Brush with covid, maybe unique, he'll be my major groan if wrong.

Tracy Emin - Despite remission, all of my gut feelings tell me she is fucked. And yet, I didn't listen to them.

Caitlin Flanagan - From a recent podcast, seems to have her cancer under control just now.

Rev Peter Hancock - Another pick I wanted to use, but he's currently in for extensive stem cell treatment and in covid they surely woudn't book that if he was in serious danger...

[gcreptile 10,223]

Okay, some more...

Well, I not only had Gerd Müller as first sub, but then Carlos Menem and Paul Westphal as 2nd and 3rd sub. But none of the really low-hanging fruit on my main team, esp. Floyd Little and Lee Noble, went out too soon.

So I don't have these names in any team. Both pretty much guaranteed points imo, but I just didn't want to come into a situation where I have the same people in 2 different teams.

A couple of ALS names didn't make it: OJ Brigance might have had some deterioration recently. And considering how advanced the illness already is, that might just be the final chapter. Rob Burrow is a sub for the 2nd team. I agree with msc, that his case is a fast one. He does remind me of David Hagen... but the one of 2019, not 2020...so, one to remember.

Who I didn't pick at all, and it might come to bite me in the ass:

Yoo Sang-Chul, I think he might actually be in something of a remission. It's probably not going to last. But I am happy with just waiting and seeing.

Sarah Harding, Linda Nolan: Not feeling either of them. Sarah Harding has a book out. Linda is milking her disease for the camera. Now, I do think both are actually ill. But until I hear something like "treatment has failed", or something, I take a pass.

Scott Dureau: Seems to be a team coach for his team now, there seems to be no danger

Gavin Robertson, Jana Bennett: Still unsure whether Gavin Robertson actually has glioblastoma. One source mentioned it, but a recent article, in November I think, actually said he was in remission.  Jana Bennett, another glio case, Didn't have space for her. could be a Susan Bayh, who is 3rd sub for my 3rd team.

Hannah Wants: Too soon, imo - but I ight be wrong.

Miguel Van Damme: I only saw the January news of the leukemia return, not the later news that the treatment had failed. Still a risky obit, but you can't win without at least a bit of risk.

Shintaro Ishihara: The "Japanese Jean-Marie Le Pen": Has pancreatic cancer, but a late search said it was at an early stage.

 

Well, that's it basically. Many of the fringey / very risky picks made my B-team. I kind of used it as a dump for some personal favourites, and picks I didn't allow myself to have in the main team as a co-host, especially Sarah Ezekiel, John Dabell and Edward Denmark.

[CaptainChorizo 1,903]

last 10 out

Lee Noble-Has a complete absense from any media or social media I coud find besides one tweet .Think he is probably toast but just went with my gut in taking some names over him in the end

Gerd Muller- A lot ot last days alzheimers type somehow can stretch it out a year or two. Think he is more likely then not to die this year,but at his point total decided to go with younger non drop 40 toss up's.

Shannon Doherty-Heard about her trying some experimental stuff,think she might be farther along in her cancer then some think. Couldn't quit pull the trigger

Yoko Ono-Since everyone her age is in lockdown hard to know exactly how *ucked she is.

Ady Barkan/Stacy Title-Have dubious luck with ALS picks,guranteed they would see 2022 if I picked them

Bobby Fulton- Seems fecked but his tag team partner didn't get a UK Obit a few years ago so way high obit risk. Never in WWE ,and his peak in WCW/NWA came 2 years before WCW showed up on British Tv.

Sir Michael Cullen/Frank Williams/Bill Freehan-Similiar to Gerd Muller but need way more certainly at their age with most likely scenario of non unique/non drop 40

 

Looks though like I had big underestimation of  Muller and Williams,they seem like realistic drop 40 contenders.

[Captain Hemlock 639]

Mark Delsaulnier-California congressman who was in bad shape early in 2020. He recovered nicely and didn't consider him after that.

Arlo Guthrie-Musician who had a mild stroke and has retired from performing. I played him in another deadpool

Trey Mancini-MLB Player-His cancer was early stage and he's talking about resuming his playing career.

Emily Sears-Model who had brain surgery. She seems to have recovered well.

Nichelle Nichols-Star Trek actress-she's always a late drop due to conflicting reports on her health

Sarah Harding-Girls Aloud singer-She seems more like a 2022 pick

Al Roker-TV personality/weatherman-Cancer seems to be early stage. He's still on American TV might reconsider for 2022

 

[YoungWillz 19,020]

Ones I'm probably going to regret leaving off my TOTP team but making the subs bench are Vivian Campbell (Dio/Whitesnake/Def Leppard) and Bobby Kimball (Toto).

[Charles De Gaulle 358]

Iain Anderson- Forgot about him while writing up my lists. 

 

Bobby Charlton and Jake the Snake- I think they are better for next year.

 

Leslie Phelps- Everyone has been saying that he could die any minute since 2014. 

 

Harry Reid- Got bored with him.

 

Norman Lloyd and Beverly Clearly- At this point they are just famous for being old.

 

Greg Gilbert- I thought he died ages ago.

[Toast 14,833]

I meant to restore Greg Gilbert to the team, but forgot. 

[The Old Crem 3,170]

Frank Williams and Captain Tom Moore.

 

 

[Joey Russ 7,119]

Right, here were some names I considered during the last week of the year: 

 

Yoko Ono - Her situation seems very dire, but just wasn’t sure if she would drop 40, and I already have enough low pointers as it stands

Michael Caputo - From what I can tell his cancer spread was more localized. Definitely would be a hit to celebrate, but I’ve taken the punt that he sees another year

Yoo Sang-chul - Yes, I saw that his cancer was nearly gone as well, and while pancreatic cancer usually does come back, I think he’ll follow a more similar route to Pat Smullen which takes him to 2022

Pat Martino - Had him considered for my team a long time, I think he does have a better chance for a QO than many do (also got a Guardian article in the past), but backed out of him the last few weeks

Ron Wright: Think his cancer might be worse than he’s letting on, but he seemed to have bounced back a bit after his health scare

Necro Butcher: Looks absolutely terrible, but iirc only Stage 3 cancer rather than stage 4, so I’ve taken the punt he sees another year (although his death would not shock at all)

Lee Noble: Last time I thought sure obit but not sure death. This time I thought sure death but not sure obit. Honestly is someone who might’ve died off the radar, and as such felt too risky

Jungle Grrrl: Thought about picking her as a way to test how far the metro QO goes for wrestler after the stunning Karsten Beck QO, but I’m not sure if woman wrestlers have the same clickbaityness

Jana Bennett: Probably the name I ultimately got bored with the most, and only 8 points too. So will probably score for those of you who picked her

Susan Bayh: I think she’s more long term now, given she’s already lasted two and a half years with glio, who says she can’t last another 3 years? That, and with Mike Pence no longer VP her QO chances might dip somewhat

Jessie Colter: The most recent update makes him seem like a goner, but from what I can tell, it’s such a crapshoot on whether lesser known porn stars get a QO, and the gay porn stars seem even riskier

Josh Evans: Football player who played with the Tennessee Titans, also had an appearance in the super bowl as well. That said, I’m still not sure he gets a QO and he has kidney cancer anyways so probably sees another year 

Hannah Wants: She seems to be going the alternative treatment route, although she’s also taking radiotherapy as well. Wouldn’t shock either way

Neale Daniher: Saw that he was receiving some award last month, couldn’t decipher if he was truly on his way out or if it’s just that, an award 

 

Never seriously considered Sarah Harding or Shannen Doherty. They felt like this year’s ONJ and Linda Nolan (although the latter is in a much more dire situation now). 

[drol 10,046]

I regret not picking Jana Bennett and Lee Noble. I think Doherty will survive this year.

[Death Impends 7,365]

SUBS

 

Susan Bayh - Bored of her at this point. Her 2021 fate is sealed

Jana Bennett - Once again falls victim to there only being 20 slots

George Alagiah - Every year, he seems to get some bad midyear news that makes me sure I'll pick him, and each time I get closer and closer to doing so, but then he becomes too stable again and I backtrack

 

Others:

 

Rachel Zoll - See Bayh

Lars Hogh - Seems okay for now, and there are enough "okay now, will downturn again, but what year?" picks that are more lucrative than him

Bruno Latour - Had the makings of an interesting, classy pick, but something felt off to me about only one mention of his illness in a Dutch paper, given he seems quite notable

Paul Westphal, Alan Dean Foster - Other 7 pointers I couldn't find room for

Stacy Title - Still wary of doubling up on ALS picks

[Spade_Cooley 9,019]

I found another reference to Latour having cancer in Le Monde, but the way it was phrased makes me think it was caught very early.

[Spade_Cooley 9,019]

54 minutes ago, Joey Russ said:

Lee Noble: Last time I thought sure obit but not sure death. This time I thought sure death but not sure obit. Honestly is someone who might’ve died off the radar, and as such felt too risky

 

Lee Noble changed his Facebook display picture on December 30th, so he's still with us. Would be stunned if he doesn't get a Sun obit on his death

[Joey Russ 7,119]

Basically my skepticism was his last QO mention was almost 2 years ago, although I definitely could’ve called that Noble play wrong. 

[Etushispushingupdaisies 127]

Tom Weiskopf - He has only made it to the Death By Numbers. 

Floyd Little - Too much of a risky pick. I feared he wouldn't make it to the starting line, so I didn't pick him.

Necro Butcher - I totally forgot about him.

 

[machotrouts 732]

In this spoiler box is #1 Hits, my regular theme team of UK #1 hitmakers. Below it are 20 more people who were in consideration for the team.

 

Spoiler

Last year's position is given in brackets, where applicable.

1. (new) Tom Parker (The Wanted)
2. (new) Sarah Harding (Girls Aloud)
3. (new) Captain Tom Moore
4. (5) Willie Nelson (USA for Africa)
5. (11) Harry Belafonte
6. (7) David Crosby (The Byrds)
7. (9) Chris Farlowe
8. (3) Olivia Newton-John
9. (new) Bobby Charlton (England World Cup Squad '70)
10. (10) Jane Morgan
11. (12) Rolf Harris
12. (new) Lou Gramm (Foreigner)
13. (new) Anne Nolan (The Crowd)
14. (new) Dave Ball (Soft Cell)
15. (new) Trevor Oakes (Showaddywaddy)
16. (18) Tony Bennett
17. (new) Eddie 'Tan Tan' Thornton (Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames)
18. (new) Derv Gordon (The Equals)
19. (new) Eric Burdon (The Animals)
20. (new) Bernard Cribbins (Peter Kay's Animated All Star Band)

 

SUBSTITUTES:

21. Ernest Ranglin (Commonwealth Band)

22. Don Powell (Slade)

23. John Leyton

 

24. Plas Johnson (B. Bumble and the Stingers) (#17 last year)

25. David Graham (Peter Kay's Animated All Star Band) (#20 last year)

26. Chris Rea (Band Aid II) (#8 last year)

27. Jerry Lee Lewis (#13 last year)

28. Tommy Roe

29. Lena Martell
30. Shane MacGowan ("Various artists")

31. Grace Slick (Starship)

32. Craig Douglas

33. Billy J. Kramer
34. J.J. Barrie
35. John Edwards (Detroit Spinners)
36. Alan Lancaster (Status Quo)

37. Bobby Brown (New Edition)

38. Brian Harvey (East 17)

39. Hank Marvin

40. Eric Clapton

 

 

In this spoiler box is Unpersons, my regular theme team of Big Brother housemates. Below it are 20 more people who were in consideration for the team.

 

Spoiler

Last year's position is given in brackets, where applicable.

1. (new) James Whale
2. (re) Sarah Harding
3. (2) Linda Nolan
4. (4) Julie Goodyear
5. (3) Ken Morley
6. (7) Gary Busey
7. (5) Lionel Blair
8. (8) Michael Barrymore
9. (10) Ron Atkinson
10. (11) Amanda Barrie
11. (new) Dirk Benedict
12. (16) Ann Widdecombe
13. (new) Winston McKenzie
14. (new) Stephen Bear
15. (17) Germaine Greer
16. (new) Lesley Brain
17. (new) Nikki Grahame
18. (re) James Cosmo
19. (re) Jessica Alves
20. (20) Lauren Harries

 

SUBSTITUTES

21. Kirstie Alley

22. Razor Ruddock

23. George Galloway

 

24. Kim Woodburn

25. Bruce Jones (#12 last year)

26. Rebekah Shelton (#19 last year)

27. Jim Davidson

28. Christopher Biggins

29. Chris Ellison

30. Carole Malone
31. Ivana Trump

32. Kellie Maloney (#18 last year)

33. Danniella Westbrook (#6 last year)

34. Daniel Baldwin

35. Alexander O'Neal

36. Rula Lenska

37. Stephanie Beacham

38. Wayne Sleep

39. Cheryl Fergison

40. Jason Cowan

 

 

In this spoiler box is Special:RandomInCategory/Living_people, my new theme team of 20 people whittled down from 4000 random biographies on Wikipedia. Below it are 20 more people who were in consideration for the team.

 

Spoiler

Last year's position is not given in brackets, because that would not make any sense.

1. John Gwynne (commentator)
2. Carmen Herrera
3. Andy Gray (actor)
4. George McGavin
5. Dave Mustaine
6. Bryson Foster
7. Yusuf al-Qaradawi
8. Line Renaud
9. Bob Graham
10. Lee Baca
11. David Steel
12. Alfredo Astiz
13. Ron Ely
14. George William Penrose, Lord Penrose
15. Maria Charles
16. Jeannette Altwegg
17. Michael Blower
18. Jong Kyong-thaek
19. John F. MacArthur
20. Playboi Carti

 

SUBSTITUTES

21. Jerry Yester

22. Mamie Von Doren

23. Don Walsh

 

24. Joan Collins

25. William Henry Furman

26. Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary
27. David McCullough

28. Richard Estes

29. Lee Redmond

30. Eileen McCallum

31. Armin Hary

32. Avery Corman

33. Emmanuel de Merode
34. Geoff Foulds

35. Baron von Raschke

36. Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild

37. Jacques Rancière

38. Willie Wood

39. Pino Donaggio

40. András Arató

[Banana 855]

8 hours ago, Spade_Cooley said:

I found another reference to Latour having cancer in Le Monde, but the way it was phrased makes me think it was caught very early.

 

Dodged a bullet on missing out on Latour entirely

[CaptainChorizo 1,903]

10 hours ago, Joey Russ said:

Jungle Grrrl: Thought about picking her as a way to test how far the metro QO goes for wrestler after the stunning Karsten Beck QO, but I’m not sure if woman wrestlers have the same clickbaityness

 

 

The thing about Karsten Beck is the company he was the champ  for in Germany(WXW) has stealthily become maybe the biggest European Federation and many of their top stars have gone on be champs in WWE.  The company JungleGrrl works for (WOW) is  such a minor indy promotion and wouldn't even make the top 10 of Womens Promotions.  If she get's a QO,then I guess it opens up the floodgates to a ton of obscure indy/state federations

[Salmon Mousse 466]

Made an ordered list of 50 names to be used for DDP and DbN, with the top 20 on the list going to DDP.  Michael McKevitt and Paul Westphal were names 25 and 26 on the page....

[Spade_Cooley 9,019]

Looks like Tahir Mughal, thanks to the very very lax YahooNews ruling, would have got a QO.