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Estelle Harris

Main Deathlist 2+1

John Key 3+1

Theoldlady 4+1

MariNisia 2+1

 

@jonnythegamemaster This is your sub1, was there any reason why this should be on your main list? (e.g. someone you selected died before 2022 or was ineligible for being only famous for being old?) I had a quick scroll through your list and didn't see Betty White or anyone I recognised for that purpose!

 

Book 8/50

theoldlady 5/50

The Daredevil 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

jonnythegamemaster 4/50

Nick 4/50

TQR 4/50

wannamaker 4/50

John Key 4/50

Main Deathlist 3/50

MariNisia 3/50

Annami 2/50

markb4 2/50

_floydylan_ 2/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

The Old Crem 2/50

Death Duke 2/50

Salmon Mousse 2/50

earl 1/50

Hell 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

Pop_Zeus 1/50

arghton 1/50

Gooseberry Crumble 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

six feet blunder 0/50

Doulton 0/50

Dying Probably 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

Miranda lass 0/50

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11 hours ago, John Key said:

Estelle Harris

Main Deathlist 2+1

John Key 3+1

Theoldlady 4+1

MariNisia 2+1

 

@jonnythegamemaster This is your sub1, was there any reason why this should be on your main list? (e.g. someone you selected died before 2022 or was ineligible for being only famous for being old?) I had a quick scroll through your list and didn't see Betty White or anyone I recognised for that purpose!

 

Book 8/50

theoldlady 5/50

The Daredevil 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

jonnythegamemaster 4/50

Nick 4/50

TQR 4/50

wannamaker 4/50

John Key 4/50

Main Deathlist 3/50

MariNisia 3/50

Annami 2/50

markb4 2/50

_floydylan_ 2/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

The Old Crem 2/50

Death Duke 2/50

Salmon Mousse 2/50

earl 1/50

Hell 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

Pop_Zeus 1/50

arghton 1/50

Gooseberry Crumble 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

six feet blunder 0/50

Doulton 0/50

Dying Probably 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

Miranda lass 0/50

Unfortunately not. I knew keeping Trump on this year was a mistake :facepalm:

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June Brown

Main Deathlist 3+1

six feet blunder 0+1

Theoldlady 5+1

Doulton 0+1

wannamaker 4+1

Hell 1+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 2+1

MariNisia 3+1

jonnythegamemaster 4+1

Miranda lass 0+1

 

 

 

Book 8/50

theoldlady 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

wannamaker 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

The Daredevil 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

Nick 4/50

TQR 4/50

John Key 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

Annami 2/50

markb4 2/50

_floydylan_ 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

The Old Crem 2/50

Death Duke 2/50

Salmon Mousse 2/50

Hell 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

Pop_Zeus 1/50

arghton 1/50

Gooseberry Crumble 1/50

six feet blunder 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Dying Probably 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

 

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Nehemiah Persoff is a hit for a few of us here.

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1 hour ago, markb4 said:

Nehemiah Persoff is a hit for a few of us here.


My second hit 

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Nehemiah Persoff

six feet blunder 1+1

markb4 2+1

Dying Probably 0+1

Pop_Zeus 1+1

Hell 2+1

 

Tom Smith

theoldlady 6+1

John Key 4+1

wannamaker 5+1

The Old Crem 2+1

Salmon Mousse 2+1

Gooseberry Crumble 1+1

Book 8+1

Death Duke 2+1

TQR 4+1

 

 

 

Book 9/50

theoldlady 7/50

wannamaker 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

TQR 5/50

John Key 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

The Daredevil 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

Nick 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

markb4 3/50

The Old Crem 3/50

Death Duke 3/50

Salmon Mousse 3/50

Hell 3/50

Annami 2/50

_floydylan_ 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

Pop_Zeus 2/50

Gooseberry Crumble 2/50

six feet blunder 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

arghton 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

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3 hours ago, _floydylan_ said:

Larry Holley is a hit for me

I'm likely to give the point for this, I'm just going to wait a small amount of time incase if anyone else has an opinion. 

 

Arguments for it: 

Famous enough (e.g. not a nobody)

https://kfyo.com/larry-holley-older-brother-of-buddy-holly-passes-away/

 

Argument against: 

There is a more famous Larry Holley that has a wikipedia page (the one that just died doesn't)

Not mentioned in a major news source, only on twitter and the one I linked

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10 minutes ago, John Key said:

I'm likely to give the point for this, I'm just going to wait a small amount of time incase if anyone else has an opinion. 

 

Arguments for it: 

Famous enough (e.g. not a nobody)

https://kfyo.com/larry-holley-older-brother-of-buddy-holly-passes-away/

 

Argument against: 

There is a more famous Larry Holley that has a wikipedia page (the one that just died doesn't)

Not mentioned in a major news source, only on twitter and the one I linked

I think it is significant and should be awarded.  Buddy Holly is a cultural touchstone so his immediate family are worthy of note

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7 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said:

I think it is significant and should be awarded.  Buddy Holly is a cultural touchstone so his immediate family are worthy of note

 

I have no skin in this game and consequently rarely look at this thread but isn't the widespread disallowing of Taylor Swift's Mum the precedent here? See also the universal condemnation of the 'family of the famous' DL pick of Bill Gates' Dad 2 years ago. People on these lists are supposed to be famous. He isn't.

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3 hours ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said:

 

I have no skin in this game and consequently rarely look at this thread but isn't the widespread disallowing of Taylor Swift's Mum the precedent here? See also the universal condemnation of the 'family of the famous' DL pick of Bill Gates' Dad 2 years ago. People on these lists are supposed to be famous. He isn't.

I also have no skin in the game and would have used the case law of William Gates Snr to come to the opposite conclusion

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2 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said:
6 hours ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said:

 

I have no skin in this game and consequently rarely look at this thread but isn't the widespread disallowing of Taylor Swift's Mum the precedent here? See also the universal condemnation of the 'family of the famous' DL pick of Bill Gates' Dad 2 years ago. People on these lists are supposed to be famous. He isn't.

I also have no skin in the game and would have used the case law of William Gates Snr to come to the opposite conclusion

Really? I know Gates was 'allowed' on to the DL (because the committee don't seek the approval of forum users before publishing) but I would have said that the outcome was that  nearly everyone felt that that 'case law' was wrong and that family members with no independent claim to fame should not be allowed on the DL (and therefore  on shadow lists). Fwiw I would say members of the Crickets and Maria Elena (who features prominently in the film/stage show biopics and is mentioned in American Pie) are notable (but insufficiently famous for the main DL) but none of his family are even notable, let alone DL-worthy.

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21 minutes ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said:

Really? I know Gates was 'allowed' on to the DL (because the committee don't seek the approval of forum users before publishing) but I would have said that the outcome was that  nearly everyone felt that that 'case law' was wrong and that family members with no independent claim to fame should not be allowed on the DL (and therefore  on shadow lists). Fwiw I would say members of the Crickets and Maria Elena (who features prominently in the film/stage show biopics and is mentioned in American Pie) are notable (but insufficiently famous for the main DL) but none of his family are even notable, let alone DL-worthy.

 

The interest here being that Buddy died so young and Larry outlasted him by so many years. I also think that unless you are going to disallow them at the beginning of the game you set obit rules and let the media attention  make the judgement.

 

I totally understand and respect your opinion and I could argue that under other circumstances but I think it is an interesting hit albeit one I would not have selected

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On 08/04/2022 at 15:11, _floydylan_ said:

Larry Holley is a hit for me

I liked this discussion. I feel mixed about the name which is why I wanted it to happen. 

 

Based off of my first post, he doesn't reach a lot of criteria (not obiting in a major newspaper, no wikipedia page, only tied to a well known celebrity). However, he's not just some nobody, so I'm going to give the point. 

 

This is a line from my first post, which implies how my rules are just so an absolute nobody doesn't make it through the cracks. Buddy Holly was a huge sensation to the point where he is still relevant today

 

I will try and be pretty relaxed on these and use discretion, but family members of yours/local nobodies are the reason why I'm not just saying that all names will count if they die. 

 

Larry Holley

_floydylan_ 2+1

 

Book 9/50

theoldlady 7/50

wannamaker 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

TQR 5/50

John Key 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

The Daredevil 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

Nick 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

markb4 3/50

The Old Crem 3/50

Death Duke 3/50

Salmon Mousse 3/50

Hell 3/50

Annami 2/50

_floydylan_ 3/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

Pop_Zeus 2/50

Gooseberry Crumble 2/50

six feet blunder 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

arghton 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

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Ron Stander

Gooseberry Crumble 2+1

 

Book 9/50

theoldlady 7/50

wannamaker 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

TQR 5/50

John Key 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

The Daredevil 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

Nick 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

markb4 3/50

The Old Crem 3/50

Death Duke 3/50

Salmon Mousse 3/50

Hell 3/50

_floydylan_ 3/50

Gooseberry Crumble 3/50

Annami 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

Pop_Zeus 2/50

six feet blunder 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

arghton 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

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Jack Higgins

The Daredevil 4+1

 

Book 9/50

theoldlady 7/50

wannamaker 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

TQR 5/50

John Key 5/50

The Daredevil 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

Nick 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

markb4 3/50

The Old Crem 3/50

Death Duke 3/50

Salmon Mousse 3/50

Hell 3/50

_floydylan_ 3/50

Gooseberry Crumble 3/50

Annami 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

Pop_Zeus 2/50

six feet blunder 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

arghton 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

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10 minutes ago, The Daredevil said:

@John Key Michel Bouquet is my 6th hit and my 2nd unique death of the year. 

A bunch of french sources saying he is est mort, checks out!

 

Michel Bouquet

The Daredevil 5+1

Book 9/50

theoldlady 7/50

wannamaker 6/50

The Daredevil 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

TQR 5/50

John Key 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

Nick 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

markb4 3/50

The Old Crem 3/50

Death Duke 3/50

Salmon Mousse 3/50

Hell 3/50

_floydylan_ 3/50

Gooseberry Crumble 3/50

Annami 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

Pop_Zeus 2/50

six feet blunder 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

arghton 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

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Art Rupe

six feet blunder 2+1

John Key 5+1

Pop_Zeus 2+1

 

 

Book 9/50

theoldlady 7/50

wannamaker 6/50

The Daredevil 6/50

John Key 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

TQR 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

gcreptile 4/50

Nick 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

markb4 3/50

The Old Crem 3/50

Death Duke 3/50

Salmon Mousse 3/50

Hell 3/50

_floydylan_ 3/50

Gooseberry Crumble 3/50

Pop_Zeus 3/50

six feet blunder 3/50

Annami 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

arghton 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

 
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Guy Lafleur

Salmon Mousse 3+1

 

Mwai Kibaki

Hell 3+1

John Key 6+1

 

Liz Sheridan

gcreptile 4+1

 

Book 9/50

theoldlady 7/50

John Key 7/50

wannamaker 6/50

The Daredevil 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

TQR 5/50

gcreptile 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

Nick 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Salmon Mousse 4/50

Hell 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

markb4 3/50

The Old Crem 3/50

Death Duke 3/50

_floydylan_ 3/50

Gooseberry Crumble 3/50

Pop_Zeus 3/50

six feet blunder 3/50

Annami 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

arghton 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

 

 

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I started compiling a list of the dead / point changes on the first page below the scoreboard, my logic being if anyone wanted to check on the dead / any score changes they could do it in one place

 

The dead:

 

 

Gary Burgess:

John Key 0+1

Theoldlady 0+1

MariNisia 0+1

Book 0+1

Annami 0+1

gcreptile 0+1

 

Igor Bogdanoff

Book 1 + 1

jonnythegamemaster 0 + 1 

_floydylan_ 0+1

 

Joan Copeland

markb4 0+1

 

Sidney Poitier

Bibliogryphon 0+1

earl 0+1

Theoldlady 1+1

The Old Crem 0+1

Hell 0+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 0+1

MariNisia 1+1

Annami 1+1

dimreaper 0+1

Death Duke 0+1

TQR 0+1

jonnythegamemaster 1+1

Nick 0+1

The Daredevil 0+1

_floydylan_ 1+1

 

Robert Durst

markb4 1+1

Salmon Mousse 0+1

 

Jana Bennett

theoldlady 2+1

 

Hardy Krüger

Etushispushingupdaisies 1+1

Book 2+1

The Daredevil 1+1

 

Barry Cryer

Pop_Zeus 0+1

 

Lata Mangeshkar

John Key 1+1

 

Russell Bishop

Book 3+1

gcreptile 1+1

wannamaker 1+1

 

Leonard Fenton

TQR 1+1

jonnythegamemaster 2+1

The Daredevil 2+1

 

Christos Sartzetakis

wannamaker 0+1

John Key 2+1

 

Monica Vitti

arghton 0+1

Nick 1+1

The Daredevil 3+1

 

Mustafa Kayirici

Book 4+1

 

 

Nightbirde

Nick 2+1

 

Gail Halvorsen

gcreptile 2+1

 

Sister Catherine Wybourne

gcreptile 3+1

 

Shirley Hughes

Bibliogryphon 1+1

 

Mike Mora

Book 5+1

 

Vic Elford

wannamaker 2+1

TQR 2+1

 

John Chapple

Gooseberry Crumble 0+1

 

Tom Parker

Theoldlady 3+1

wannamaker 3+1

The Old Crem 1+1

Salmon Mousse 1+1

Book 6+1

Death Duke 1+1

TQR 3+1

jonnythegamemaster 3+1

Nick 3+1

 

Miguel Van Damme

Book 7+1

 

 

Estelle Harris

Main Deathlist 2+1

John Key 3+1

Theoldlady 4+1

MariNisia 2+1

 

June Brown

Main Deathlist 3+1

six feet blunder 0+1

Theoldlady 5+1

Doulton 0+1

wannamaker 4+1

Hell 1+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 2+1

MariNisia 3+1

jonnythegamemaster 4+1

Miranda lass 0+1

 

Nehemiah Persoff

six feet blunder 1+1

markb4 2+1

Dying Probably 0+1

Pop_Zeus 1+1

Hell 2+1

 

Tom Smith

theoldlady 6+1

John Key 4+1

wannamaker 5+1

The Old Crem 2+1

Salmon Mousse 2+1

Gooseberry Crumble 1+1

Book 8+1

Death Duke 2+1

TQR 4+1

 

Larry Holley

_floydylan_ 2+1

 

Ron Stander

Gooseberry Crumble 2+1

 

Jack Higgins

The Daredevil 4+1

 

Michel Bouquet

The Daredevil 5+1

 

Art Rupe

six feet blunder 2+1

John Key 5+1

Pop_Zeus 2+1

 

Guy Lafleur

Salmon Mousse 3+1

 

Mwai Kibaki

Hell 3+1

John Key 6+1

 

Liz Sheridan

gcreptile 4+1

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George Perez

wannamaker 6+1

Salmon Mousse 4+1

Book 9+1

The Daredevil 6+1

gcreptile 5+1

_floydylan_  3+1

 

Book 10/50

theoldlady 7/50

John Key 7/50

wannamaker 7/50

The Daredevil 7/50

gcreptile 6/50

jonnythegamemaster 5/50

TQR 5/50

Salmon Mousse 5/50

Main Deathlist 4/50

Nick 4/50

MariNisia 4/50

Hell 4/50

_floydylan_ 4/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 3/50

markb4 3/50

The Old Crem 3/50

Death Duke 3/50

Gooseberry Crumble 3/50

Pop_Zeus 3/50

six feet blunder 3/50

Annami 2/50

 Bibliogryphon 2/50

earl 1/50

dimreaper 1/50

arghton 1/50

Doulton 1/50

Miranda lass 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

DieHardGiantsFan 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

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