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Andy Taylor really should be in the list for next year as he's got stage four cancer.

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1 minute ago, ladyfiona said:

Andy Taylor really should be in the list for next year as he's got stage four cancer.

And has had it for four years.Five year survival is less than 30% .

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A few mentions of Paul Hogan but I urge people not to forget another acting hunk Lee  Majors 83 who has inexplicably/mysteriously if you like stopped apoearing on his wifes Instagram account despite previously regularly appearing in photos and videos on there.

 

I think something is amiss.

 

 

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French former prime minister suffers from alopecia. Not that serious but just funny how in one year he changed so much. He’s only 51. 

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Here's version 3 of my hypothetical 2023 list:

 

1. Rolf Harris (93- Four Little Girls; NEW)

2. Henry Kissinger (100- Diplomat; 2)

3. Bob Barker (100- The Price is Right; 4)

4. Jimmy Carter (99- Ex US President; 9)

5. June Spencer (104- Peggy Woolley; NEW)

6. Glynis Johns (100- Actress; NEW)

7. Nigel Starmer-Smith (79- Rugby Commentator; 6)

8. Alan Greenspan (97- Economist; 5)

9. Pope Benedict XVI (96- Former Pope; -)

10. Dick Van Dyke (98- Actor; 1)

11. Tony Bennett (97- Crooner; 10)

12. Harry Belafonte (96- Singer; 13)

13. Eva Marie Saint (99- Actress; NEW)

14. William Russell (99- Actor; NEW)

15. Mel Brooks (97- Comedian / Director; 14)

16. David Graham (98- Voice Actor; NEW)

17. Rob Burrow (41- Rugby player; NEW)

18. Joanne Woodward (93- Actress; -)

19. Jacques Delors (98- French Politician; 30)

20. Cleo Laine (96- Jazz Singer; 27)

21. David Attenborough (97- Broadcaster and Natural Historian; 17)

22. Rosalynn Carter (96- Ex-FLOTUS; 20)

23. Gudrun Ure (97- Super Gran; NEW)

24. Jean-Marie Le Pen (95- French Neo-Nazi; 24)

25. George Alagiah (68- Broadcaster; NEW)

26. Pele (83- Footballer; 41)

27. Stanley Baxter (97- Comedian; 35)

28. Noam Chomsky (95- Intellectual; 37)

29. Sandy Gall (96- TV news reporter; 21)

30. Bobby Charlton (86- Footballer; 16)

31. James Whale (72- Broadcaster; 26)

32. Barbara Walters (94- Broadcast Journalist; -)

33. Andy Taylor (62- Duran Duran guitarist; NEW)

34. Norman Tebbit (92- Politician; 39)

35. Winnie Ewing (94- Scottish Politician; NEW)

36. Milan Kundera (94- Author; 46)

37. Bob Newhart (94- Comedian; -)

38. Dennis Skinner (91- Politician; NEW)

39. Burt Bacharach (95- Singer Songwriter; 34)

40. Linda Nolan (64- Nolan Sister; -)

41. Tom Lehrer (95- Musical humorist; NEW)

42. Ted Kaczynski (81- Unabomber; 23)

43. James Earl Jones (92- Vader's Voice; NEW)

44. Shannen Doherty (52- 90210 Actor; -)

45. Thelma Barlow (94- Corrie's Mavis Wilton; NEW)

46. Nigel Lawson (91- UK Politician; -)

47. Yoko Ono (90- Mrs Lennon; -)

48. Rex Williams (90- Snooker player; -)

49. Douglas Hurd (93- Politician; 43)

50. Vladimir Putin (71- Khuylo; NEW)

 

If debuter dies, Constantine II of Greece is the replacement.

If someone currently on both lists dies, Joss Ackland is the replacement.

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So, famous Chelsea head hunter and - therefore - likely ranter fire magnet, but seen elsewhere that there's a serious cancer battle in progress for this guy: https://www.theshedend.com/topic/28447-steve-hickmott/

 

He's likely famous to the point the low-hanging pools would find q/os 

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This guy is only 23,he must drink  way more then even Johnny Depp or Shane MacGowan

 

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On 07/11/2022 at 09:07, Summer in Transylvania said:

Sonny Rollins would be a decent bet, but may not be famous enough in the UK

Is that suggestion age-based or health-based? I reckon Rollins will 100% receive a BBC obit and is easily famous enough. He is one of the most influential Jazz artists of all time. Great suggestion! Rollins is now my second reserve, after James Earl Jones of course.

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17 hours ago, Drewsky1211 said:

Here's version 3 of my hypothetical 2023 list:

 

1. Rolf Harris (93- Four Little Girls; NEW)

2. Henry Kissinger (100- Diplomat; 2)

3. Bob Barker (100- The Price is Right; 4)

4. Jimmy Carter (99- Ex US President; 9)

5. June Spencer (104- Peggy Woolley; NEW)

6. Glynis Johns (100- Actress; NEW)

7. Nigel Starmer-Smith (79- Rugby Commentator; 6)

8. Alan Greenspan (97- Economist; 5)

9. Pope Benedict XVI (96- Former Pope; -)

10. Dick Van Dyke (98- Actor; 1)

11. Tony Bennett (97- Crooner; 10)

12. Harry Belafonte (96- Singer; 13)

13. Eva Marie Saint (99- Actress; NEW)

14. William Russell (99- Actor; NEW)

15. Mel Brooks (97- Comedian / Director; 14)

16. David Graham (98- Voice Actor; NEW)

17. Rob Burrow (41- Rugby player; NEW)

18. Joanne Woodward (93- Actress; -)

19. Jacques Delors (98- French Politician; 30)

20. Cleo Laine (96- Jazz Singer; 27)

21. David Attenborough (97- Broadcaster and Natural Historian; 17)

22. Rosalynn Carter (96- Ex-FLOTUS; 20)

23. Gudrun Ure (97- Super Gran; NEW)

24. Jean-Marie Le Pen (95- French Neo-Nazi; 24)

25. George Alagiah (68- Broadcaster; NEW)

26. Pele (83- Footballer; 41)

27. Stanley Baxter (97- Comedian; 35)

28. Noam Chomsky (95- Intellectual; 37)

29. Sandy Gall (96- TV news reporter; 21)

30. Bobby Charlton (86- Footballer; 16)

31. James Whale (72- Broadcaster; 26)

32. Barbara Walters (94- Broadcast Journalist; -)

33. Andy Taylor (62- Duran Duran guitarist; NEW)

34. Norman Tebbit (92- Politician; 39)

35. Winnie Ewing (94- Scottish Politician; NEW)

36. Milan Kundera (94- Author; 46)

37. Bob Newhart (94- Comedian; -)

38. Dennis Skinner (91- Politician; NEW)

39. Burt Bacharach (95- Singer Songwriter; 34)

40. Linda Nolan (64- Nolan Sister; -)

41. Tom Lehrer (95- Musical humorist; NEW)

42. Ted Kaczynski (81- Unabomber; 23)

43. James Earl Jones (92- Vader's Voice; NEW)

44. Shannen Doherty (52- 90210 Actor; -)

45. Thelma Barlow (94- Corrie's Mavis Wilton; NEW)

46. Nigel Lawson (91- UK Politician; -)

47. Yoko Ono (90- Mrs Lennon; -)

48. Rex Williams (90- Snooker player; -)

49. Douglas Hurd (93- Politician; 43)

50. Vladimir Putin (71- Khuylo; NEW)

 

If debuter dies, Constantine II of Greece is the replacement.

If someone currently on both lists dies, Joss Ackland is the replacement.

That is a fantastic list.

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19 minutes ago, The Daredevil said:

Is that suggestion age-based or health-based? I reckon Rollins will 100% receive a BBC obit and is easily famous enough. He is one of the most influential Jazz artists of all time. Great suggestion! Rollins is now my second reserve, after James Earl Jones of course.

The suggestion is a mix of the two, really. Being 93 next September, a former heroin addict, and a long-term sufferer of Pulmonary Fibrosis, he isn't exactly in the best shape at the moment. I'm not a big music person, so I had no idea he was famous enough, having first discovered him doing some research on those with a Kennedy Center Honour, as there is usually one recipient a good few years older than the rest each year. 

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Sonny Rollins suffers from pulmonary fibrosis. He stopped performing in 2014 due to it. Average survival is around 3-5 years from diagnosis. He was reportedly diagnosed with it around 2012.

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17 hours ago, Drewsky1211 said:

Here's version 3 of my hypothetical 2023 list:

 

1. Rolf Harris (93- Four Little Girls; NEW)

2. Henry Kissinger (100- Diplomat; 2)

3. Bob Barker (100- The Price is Right; 4)

4. Jimmy Carter (99- Ex US President; 9)

5. June Spencer (104- Peggy Woolley; NEW)

6. Glynis Johns (100- Actress; NEW)

7. Nigel Starmer-Smith (79- Rugby Commentator; 6)

8. Alan Greenspan (97- Economist; 5)

9. Pope Benedict XVI (96- Former Pope; -)

10. Dick Van Dyke (98- Actor; 1)

11. Tony Bennett (97- Crooner; 10)

12. Harry Belafonte (96- Singer; 13)

13. Eva Marie Saint (99- Actress; NEW)

14. William Russell (99- Actor; NEW)

15. Mel Brooks (97- Comedian / Director; 14)

16. David Graham (98- Voice Actor; NEW)

17. Rob Burrow (41- Rugby player; NEW)

18. Joanne Woodward (93- Actress; -)

19. Jacques Delors (98- French Politician; 30)

20. Cleo Laine (96- Jazz Singer; 27)

21. David Attenborough (97- Broadcaster and Natural Historian; 17)

22. Rosalynn Carter (96- Ex-FLOTUS; 20)

23. Gudrun Ure (97- Super Gran; NEW)

24. Jean-Marie Le Pen (95- French Neo-Nazi; 24)

25. George Alagiah (68- Broadcaster; NEW)

26. Pele (83- Footballer; 41)

27. Stanley Baxter (97- Comedian; 35)

28. Noam Chomsky (95- Intellectual; 37)

29. Sandy Gall (96- TV news reporter; 21)

30. Bobby Charlton (86- Footballer; 16)

31. James Whale (72- Broadcaster; 26)

32. Barbara Walters (94- Broadcast Journalist; -)

33. Andy Taylor (62- Duran Duran guitarist; NEW)

34. Norman Tebbit (92- Politician; 39)

35. Winnie Ewing (94- Scottish Politician; NEW)

36. Milan Kundera (94- Author; 46)

37. Bob Newhart (94- Comedian; -)

38. Dennis Skinner (91- Politician; NEW)

39. Burt Bacharach (95- Singer Songwriter; 34)

40. Linda Nolan (64- Nolan Sister; -)

41. Tom Lehrer (95- Musical humorist; NEW)

42. Ted Kaczynski (81- Unabomber; 23)

43. James Earl Jones (92- Vader's Voice; NEW)

44. Shannen Doherty (52- 90210 Actor; -)

45. Thelma Barlow (94- Corrie's Mavis Wilton; NEW)

46. Nigel Lawson (91- UK Politician; -)

47. Yoko Ono (90- Mrs Lennon; -)

48. Rex Williams (90- Snooker player; -)

49. Douglas Hurd (93- Politician; 43)

50. Vladimir Putin (71- Khuylo; NEW)

 

If debuter dies, Constantine II of Greece is the replacement.

If someone currently on both lists dies, Joss Ackland is the replacement.

is it your personal list or the dream version of the official one ?

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1 minute ago, Lafaucheuse said:

is it your personal list or the dream version of the official one ?

The latter.

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Here is what my dream list would looks like (kind of) 

 

1. Jimmy Carter (99yo, 9th)

2. Pope Benedict XVI (96yo, -)

3. Bob Barker (100yo, 4th)

4. Henry Kissinger  (100yo, 2nd)

5. Rolf Harris (93yo, NEW)

6. Frank Field (81yo, NEW)

7. Noam Chomsky (95yo, 37th) 

8. Pelé (83yo, 41th)

9. Bob Newhart (94yo, -)

10. Glynis Johns (100yo, NEW)

11. Jacques Delors (98yo, 30th)

12. Nigel Starmer Smith (79yo, 6th)

13. Linda Nolan (64yo, -)

14.Tony Bennett (97yo, 10th)

15. Sonny Rollins (93yo, NEW)

16. Andy Taylor (62yo, NEW)

17. David Attenborough (97yo, 17th)

18. Milan Kundera (94yo, 46th)

19. Cléo Laine (96yo, 27th)

20. Hary Belafonte (96yo, 13th)

21. Sandra Day O'Connor (93yo, NEW)

22. Alan Greenspan (97yo, 5th)

23. Jake Roberts (68yo, -)

24. Giorgio Napolitano (98yo, NEW)

25. Ted Kaczynski (81yo, 23th)

26. Liza Minnelli (77yo, -)

27. Constantin II (83yo, NEW)

28. Joanne Woodward (93yo, -)

29. Barbara Walters (94yo, -)

30.  Jean Marie Le Pen (95yo, 24th)

31. Robert Solow (99yo, NEW)

32. Raul Castro (92yo, -)

33. Imelda Marcos (94yo, -)

34. Ayatollah Ali Khameney (84yo, -)

35. Mel Brooks (97yo, 14th)

36. Rosalynn Carter (96yo, 20th) 

37. Joni Mitchell (80yo, -)

38. Denis Law (83yo, 31th)

39. Stanley Baxter (97yo, 35th)

40. Douglas Hurd (93yo, 43th)

41. George Alagiah (68yo, NEW)

42. Willie Nelson (90yo, -)

43. Dick Van Dyke (98yo, 1st) 

44. Sandy Gall (96yo, 21th)

45. Bernadette Chirac (90yo, NEW)

46. James Earl Jones (92yo, NEW) 

47. Shane McGowan (66yo, 50th)

48. Eva Marie Saint (99yo, NEW) 

49. Yoko Ono (90yo, -)

50. Vladimir Putin (71yo, NEW) 

 

Norman Tebbit or Jiang Zemin to replace the dead ones

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On 06/11/2022 at 19:41, Steve said:

A provisional half 2023 shadow list for me: 1) Henry Kissinger, 2) Jimmy Carter, 3) Frank Field, 4) Linda Nolan, 5) Joanne Woodward, 6) Glynis John's, 7) James Whale, 8) Rolf Harris, 9) Barbara Walters, 10) Sandy Gall, 11) Dennis Skinner, 12) George Alagiah, 13) Andy Taylor, 14) Pope Benedict XVI, 15) Buzz Aldrin, 16) Ryan O' Neal, 17) Willie Nelson, 18) Norman Tebbit, 19) Pele, 20) Jean Marsh, 21) Joni Mitchell, 22) Joss Auckland, 23) Shannen Doherty, 24) Stanley Baxter, 25) Sir Bobby Charlton. Obviously still need to work on my other half and of course revise these should we have a busy end to 2022. Any ideas/thoughts? 

Following the sad death of Leslie Phillips I have now entered Pope Benedict XVI in spot 14. Continuing the second half of my provisional shadow list:

26) Julie Goodyear

27) Rosalynn Carter

28) Yoko Ono

29) Bob Barker

30) Constantine II

31) Ethel Kennedy

32) Sonny Rollins

33) Paul Hogan

34) Vladimir Putin

35) Liza Minelli

36) June Spencer

37) George Soros

38) Burt Bacharach

39) Kenneth Cope

40) Grace Slick

41) Ricky Tomlinson

42) Dickie Bird                                      43) William Russell

44) Chaim Topol

45) Sandra Day O' Connor

46) Rob Burrow

47) Gene Hackman

48) Alain Delon

49) Petula Clark

50) Brian Blessed

 

My 5 subs I would offer at this stage are: 1) Ted Turner , 2) Nigel Starmer-Smith, 3) Roberta Flack, 4) Val Kilmer, 5) Alan Greenspan. In a few days time if things remain as they are I will put this list in for Shadow Death List Competition 2023. Whilst I have suggested names others have already listed I've tried to offer some alternative suggestions which I appreciate may appear quite random but of course within any 12 months surprise deaths can happen. Thoughts/ideas I am warmly open too. Good luck to all on here as there are plenty of choices and it is difficult to consider 50 strong candidates. 

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Pre-eminent British political journalist and broadcaster Michael Cockerell is 82, and has a significant tremor in one hand in a recent filmed interview; a possibility for future years?

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names i'm considering outside of the ones in the above lists, or featured on the DL main (note: depending on your location they may not meet the fame requirement):

  • Ted Turner (television producer: founder of CNN/TNT), 84, lewy body dementia since 2018
  • Michael Caine (actor), 89, old and frail, yall are aware
  • Borje Salming (hall of fame hockey player), 71, ALS, already lost ability to speak and eat
  • Stella Stevens (actress), 84, dementia for years (tip of the hat to goosebury for the suggestion elsewhere on the site)
  • Lindsey Buckingham (fleetwood mac), 73, emergency heart surgery in 2019 and undisclosed 'ongoing' health issues cancelling all concerts this year (not even postponing) and lack of updates.
  • Alice Munro (nobel prize-winning author), 91, in poor health for years (i'm stubborn and will keep her on my list until she goes)
  • Sir Quentin Blake (artist, and illustrator: Roald Dahl), 90, just old (one of those 'surprised he's still alive' entries)
  • Gordon Lightfoot (Singer), 84, emphysema and somewhat frail
  • Roger Corman (Director/Producer) 96, just old

others that i'm considering for the role of joker, just because of general health concerns: Phil Collins, Salman Rushdie, Jimmy Buffett, Tim Curry

 

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OK sorry if its been posted before (I did search!).

I've just seen this Tiktok come up with Randy Jackson (him from American Idol).

 

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFPuUCD8/

He did have gastric bypass a few years ago and has type 2 diabetes. But he looks like there more issues than that and struggling to walk with a cane and support. Looks a cert for 2023!

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24 minutes ago, deathisallaround said:

OK sorry if its been posted before (I did search!).

I've just seen this Tiktok come up with Randy Jackson (him from American Idol).

 

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFPuUCD8/

He did have gastric bypass a few years ago and has type 2 diabetes. But he looks like there more issues than that and struggling to walk with a cane and support. Looks a cert for 2023!

God he is incredibly gaunt.Looks like death warmed up.

 

Looks sick enough for his own thread.Looks like cancer to me.

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12 hours ago, Sean said:

God he is incredibly gaunt.Looks like death warmed up.

 

Looks sick enough for his own thread.Looks like cancer to me.

Yeah, as I remarked on his thread, it's incredibly sad.  I think he's famous enough (performed with Journey, music producer, American Idol judge) that he should be added to the list.  It would be a remarkable upset, unfortunately, if he's alive in 2024.  Has to be a must-add to the '23 List.  

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16 hours ago, deathisallaround said:

OK sorry if its been posted before (I did search!).

I've just seen this Tiktok come up with Randy Jackson (him from American Idol).

 

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFPuUCD8/

He did have gastric bypass a few years ago and has type 2 diabetes. But he looks like there more issues than that and struggling to walk with a cane and support. Looks a cert for 2023!

 

I read an article from a year ago to say he was over 300 pounds at one point and was emotionally eating. That doesn't mean you walk with a cane so something must have happened (covid maybe, possibly a stroke).

 

Before and after major weight loss (article):

 

How Randy Jackson Lost 114 Pounds and Kept It Off for Decades

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