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As posted on the main board, Vladimir Zelenko has (probably) died. Regular DDT pick in the cup, but not in this round. Now that would have been spectacular...

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The 16 names that matter are:

  1. Andy Goram    GCR, JRU
  2. Dave Taylor    GCR
  3. DJ Deeon    GCR, JRU
  4. Don West    JRU
  5. Gary Stibolt    GCR
  6. Henry Dickerson    GCR
  7. Ishwar Singh Rajput    JRU
  8. John Cannan    GCR, JRU
  9. Jose Eduardo Dos Santos    GCR, JRU
  10. Mark Fleischman    GCR, JRU*
  11. Mike Davis    GCR*, JRU
  12. Mint Sauce Small Q    GCR
  13. Mutulu Shakur    JRU
  14. Pervez Musharraf    JRU
  15. Pinot Ichwandardi    JRU
  16. Robyn Griggs Wiley    GCR
     
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I also had Dos Santos on my team but otherwise definitely looks to be an interesting finals match

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Enjoyed playing this game.  Good luck to the finalists.

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Alright, this is the first part of my promised name drop, first of all, my submitted team and the whole general 2022 candidates list, because I woke up to the fact that one of them, Indonesian politician Tjahjo Kumolo died today and is already a miss for me:

  Cup team finale
1 Jose Eduardo Dos Santos
2 Mark Fleischmann
3 John Cannan
4 Gary Stibolt  
5 Robyn Griggs Wiley
6 Andy Goram
7 Mint Sauce Small Q
8 Dave Taylor (Hancock Clarion)
9 Henry Dickerson
10 Mike Davis (scholar)
11 DJ Deeon  
Sub1 Grant Turner
Sub2 Frank Field  
Sub3 Giorgio Oppi
Sub4 Nasser Abu Hamid
Sub5 Carl Kabat  
Sub6 Haris Ibrahim
Sub7 Shadim Hussain
Sub8 Ginna Barilone
Sub9

Diane Berberian

 

Not picked names for 2022:

Mutulu Shakur

Eric Levy (Julian Assange)?

Abdel Rahman Abu Zahra

Steve Mongo McMichael

Christy Warnock

Peter Tobin

Vadim Zimin

Koo Sze-yiu

Allie Olson (artist)

Chicco Peddis

Alan Melinek

Yusuf al-Qaradawi

Harry Greenway

Sreenivasan

Dianne Astle

Michele Souma Scheve

Gülden Özcan

Akuku Danger

Peter "Doubles" Daley

Gert De Winter

Mark Schuck

Jayanta Mahapatra

Shane Sabel

Sean Damon

Robert Alejandro

Mr. Ibu

Rob Tucker (NZ herald)

Balwinder Safri

Abdulaziz Al-Anberi

Yaqoub Qadri

Maggie Robbins (lesfic)

BJ Colangelo

Nasty Suicide

Uncle Fred Conway

Hugo Gordijn

Wayne Couzens

Vibhu Raghave

Padre Valdemar Cardoso

Rep. Richard White

Maumin Khabir

Melvin Mayes

Susie Steiner

Lloyd Clark Fletcher

Tony Vega

Marisela Berti

Ivan Krasko

David Alexander (Falkirk)

Satya Mohan Joshi

Khalid Ibrahim

Madhabi Mukherjee

DJ Dizzo

Olivia Summer Hutcherson

Mehmet Emin Özkan

Abdusalami Abubakar

Sacheen Littlefeather
James Watson
Peter Angelos
Pope Benedict XVI
Jools Topp
Carlos Lehder Rivas
Professor Jay
Simphiwe Sibisi
Anwara Begum
Rita Lee
Kathryn Bevis
Edgar Smolensky
Imtiaz Mahmud
Jamie Klatt Savage
Apple Watts
Brandon Robinson (brain tumor)
Allison Getz
David Santalla
Mark Steedman (coach)
Larry Garza
Nusifa Nakato
Bonda Mani
Severino Poletto
Vicky Phelan
Red Farmer
Randall Froude
T. Rajendar
Norman Harris (guitars)
Sergey Volina
Denis Prokopenko
Otto Szabo
Bob Forrest
Paul Stephens (Yukon)
Don O'Leary
Antonio Russo
Spiriman
Dave Taylor (Hancock)
Dave Gaunce
Jack Thomas (Boston Globe)
Alan Dean Foster
Jessica Shores (J Sho)
Caroline Pauwels
Mohammad Sharif "Chacha"
Anthony Wameli
Sasha Johnson
Gerald Pizzuto Jr.
Dean Peter Todd
Joseph Estrada
Julia Holz
Gil Silgado
LA Parka
Scott Hargett
Muhammad Mahbubur Raman
Dwight Watson
Roger Ceresi

Kunwar Nameed Jamil

Lil Tjay

Luis of Orleans-Braganza

Tanko Muhammad

Tjahjo Kumolo (01.07.2022)

G Rajashekhar

Prakash Amte

Milagro Sala

Damita Chandler

Zaheer Abbas

Tarun Majumdar (04.07.2022)

Sérgio Lopes

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And this is my list of the still living extremely minor names accumulated through the years with the likelihood that I might never check up on them again.

 

Jessie Duarte
Lara Govendo
Renee Sloan / Baio
Dan Rojas
Jessica O'Donnell
Victoria Brownworth
Tom Kreager (Hastings professor)
Rembert Weakland
Scott Smith (superintendent)
Sir Peter Leitch
Bobby Cox
Scotty Broyles (mandolin)
Alexander Peskov
Ryan Livesey
DJ Cheryl Waters 
Nurul Qomar
Arthur Bell (Middletown)
Jerry Grey
Anastasia Golovashkina
Larry Rulison
Justin Bartlett (Metal)
Anita Kupsch
Chuck Christian
Causion
Mike Radcliff
Floyd Jones
Mike Romans (Beer)
Jörg Krusche
Brian Shawn
Jason Lary
Nathan Trueman
Maryellen Goodwin
Michael Gravelle
John O'Donnell
Gary Glenn
Cynthia Mulligan
Jack Conners
Thomas Stegman
Jesse Trevino
Diego Sanchez
Kaikala Satyanarayana
Tom Ridge
John Gwynne
Jhala Nath Khanal
Joah Falconer (local musician)
Rae Spoon
Antonio Inoki
Jaya Sawant
Zeba Begum
Archie Roach

Kurt Landsberg
Eric Moore
Dominic LeBlanc (first leukemia, now lymphoma)
Russ Crespolini
Jorge Kahwagi
Paul Martin (radio)
Gordy Pratt
Kyle Dietz
Steve Gretencord
Yasser Latif Hamdani
Mary Ladd
Fernando del Solar
Sharon Bell
Lee Allen Zeno
Jawaher
Kasule Saidi
Sunday Eboigbe
Doug Harris
Selina Dagdag
Christy Lorio

Milton Street
Dipankar Battacharjee
Nicolas Holveck
Mike Boyle (sports)
Parker Topping
Jimmy Wong
Destinee McEwen
Hanna Olivas
John Price (bassist)
Joye Lee McNelis
Joshua Brafman
Arabella Proffer
Marco Mancuso
Paul DiMare
Dr. John Mulinde
Greg Lapointe
Dave Tomassoni
David Lichtenstein
Chris Holmes (WASP)
Helene Andrews-Polymenis
Khaleda Zia
Esther Lee
Salah Aougrout
 

 

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1 hour ago, gcreptile said:

Satya Mohan Joshi

I'm not suprised by how he wasn't picked here, but how the hell is he still alive? It first felt like he was sent home to die when he was discharged after that April hospitalisation with "UTI, swollen heart, atrial fibrillation, dilated cardiomyopathy, acute kidney injury, traction fibro-bronchiectasis with pleural thickening in his respiratory tract" at 101. I'll be suprised if he's alive at the end of the year but he could live for a few months, he isn't acutely ill but those heart problems won't go away. 

 

1 hour ago, gcreptile said:

Rembert Weakland


Kaikala Satyanarayana

Weakland is a weird case. I have never heard what his illness is, but as mentioned here multiple times he's been in hospice atleast since around February 2019. 

 

Satyanarayana is one of those Indian miracles, "very critical" on ventilator with severe septic shock and multiple organ failure following covid and a fall, underwent tracheotomy, got out of hospital and seemingly recovered. Correct me if I'm wrong, the most recent update on his health was in January when he thanked the AP CM for paying for his hospital bills. He was unable to sign the letter and I am not even sure if the pictures on those articles were new.

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11 minutes ago, arghton said:

I'm not suprised by how he wasn't picked here, but how the hell is he still alive? It first felt like he was sent home to die when he was discharged after that April hospitalisation with "UTI, swollen heart, atrial fibrillation, dilated cardiomyopathy, acute kidney injury, traction fibro-bronchiectasis with pleural thickening in his respiratory tract" at 101. I'll be suprised if he's alive at the end of the year but he could live for a few months, he isn't acutely ill but those heart problems won't go away. 

Some combination of "respect for the elderly"/good elder people support system and media exaggeration I guess. We've had those cases before. Before your time here, there was Sri Sri Sri Shivakumara Swamiji. His survival was a wonder for years.

 

26 minutes ago, arghton said:

Weakland is a weird case. I have never heard what his illness is, but as mentioned here multiple times he's been in hospice atleast since around February 2019. 

 

Satyanarayana is one of those Indian miracles, "very critical" on ventilator with severe septic shock and multiple organ failure following covid and a fall, underwent tracheotomy, got out of hospital and seemingly recovered. Correct me if I'm wrong, the most recent update on his health was in January when he thanked the AP CM for paying for his hospital bills. He was unable to sign the letter and I am not even sure if the pictures on those articles were new.

Weakland's hospice might have been a cover story for the Vatican "protection service". He was involved in scandals, I forgot exactly what it was.

 

I didn't really stay up to date on Satyanarayana.

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58 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Some combination of "respect for the elderly"/good elder people support system and media exaggeration I guess. We've had those cases before. Before your time here, there was Sri Sri Sri Shivakumara Swamiji. His survival was a wonder for years.

Some of Satya Mohan Joshi's health stuff was probably mistranslations as a lot of the Nepali to English articles on his health were badly translated, especially and mostly the medical terms (for example, one article claimed he had a heart tumor which I fail to believe was true), but a lot of it came from hospital sources. He's been on oxygen atleast three different times in those pictures taken at the hospital.

I've seen the Sri Sri Sri's thread, it was a great read. Seems like in a lot of Asian countries they do everything to keep these ancient "cultural treasures" or other notable people alive, and often the government or local government pays the hospital bills like in Satyanarayana's case.

 

There's a picture of Weakland on facebook taken in July 2018, he has a walker in it but doesn't look that ill. The scandals, he's admitted to allowing priests guilty of sexual abuse to continue as priests without warning the cops or parishioners, there's been around 8000 cases of child abuse in his archdiocese. 

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Had to do a double take upon seeing Sri Sri Sri described as before arghton's time. You feel more veteran than that now!

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Looks like a great Final.  Best of luck to both teams!

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Great lists @gcreptile. I’m not sure I’d consider Tom Ridge a minor name though. He was a former 2 term governor of Pennsylvania and the first Director of Homeland Security after 9/11

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THERE'S ONLY NO ANDY GORAMS! Like the 1982 European Cup final, the goalkeeper goes off early here, with the former Rangers stopper and UVF afficionado succumbing to his recent very public cancer battles. No protest(ant)s from either gcreptile or Joey Russ, with both teams off the mark.

 

gcreptile 3 vs Joey Russ 3

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On 01/07/2022 at 23:26, Captain Hemlock said:

Great lists @gcreptile. I’m not sure I’d consider Tom Ridge a minor name though. He was a former 2 term governor of Pennsylvania and the first Director of Homeland Security after 9/11

I didn’t even notice that (it didn’t register).  WTH is wrong with colour-coding Tom Ridge?  He had his heart attack a few years back and nothing since.  In fact I think he was on Cancel My Appointments in 2018 maybe.  Blast from the past.  

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Oh, it was really just a list for people under Cup consideration that grew larger and larger. Most of them are really minor names that would otherwise mess up my longlist. Tom Ridge is important enough to be on both lists.

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Jose Eduardo dos Santos is the next shared hit between us

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Jose Eduardo dos Santos dies, giving Dos teams points in this round. As with every other long-serving African leader of the 20th century, he was widely praised for his anti-colonialist stance and ability to transfer his country's economy, but criticised for being a corrupt pocket-filling crackpot. Scores remind tied at six-all, is John Cannan up next?

 

 

gcreptile 6 vs Joey Russ 6

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If it is still a draw on July 31, any objection to - instead of a coin toss to decide the winner - we go with sudden death?

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44 minutes ago, Spade_Cooley said:

If it is still a draw on July 31, any objection to - instead of a coin toss to decide the winner - we go with sudden death?

Heh, I wouldnt mind a shared win either, but yes, sudden death is probably fairer than the coin toss.

 

I do think though, that my joker is a worse than Joey's. Apparently, Mike Davis' wife said that there wasn't any "immediate" danger, so he might just not be somebody for this month. Still, Joey's joker might decide not to go for the dignitas date after all, and then we're left with our differentials. They're kind of a bad bunch, I guess. Mine are okay, but might all just slip into the next month/s. Joey's differentials are not the best (IMHO) except for Don West, who might decide the game, and that's after all, all that's needed.

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I definitely have no objection to sudden death if it still ends up tied. 

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Well this is the day that Mark Fleischman said he was going to die, so I’m on the lookout for obituaries for him now

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Yep, looks like we've avoided any possible draw situations (unless Mike Davies dies, which he probably will). Mark Fleischman was the owner of Studio 54 - not the owner of Studio 54 in its heyday, but in the early 1980s - when Paul Heyman was working as a promoter, Rick James was smoking crack in the back and you could get a blowie off a 10-year-old Drew Barrymore for three Benson. The death of disco was an ugly thing. Fleischman spent June of this year telling everyone he was off to Dignitas, and unlike most other due-date announcers that have disappointed DDPers over the past decade (Frank Van Den Bleeken is still kicking), he went through with it. Joey goes three points ahead as a result.

 

gcreptile 9 vs Joey Russ 12

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