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3 hours ago, An Fear Beag said:

 

Oi! You cheeky fucker. Read the first post in the pool. 

 

"No-one counts the scores for ages. Everyone gets confused or annoyed or both, and at the end of the year, a seemingly random winner is announced."

 

This pool does exactly as it says on the tin!

 

 

 

 

Ok then!

 

Bernard Cribbins a hit for me here!

 

Give me points or not! :P

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On 28/07/2022 at 11:14, YoungWillz said:

Ok then!

 

Bernard Cribbins a hit for me here!

 

Give me points or not! :P

 

Just so you know that I have not completely abandoned this pool, I have been keeping up with all of the hits and who has selected them.

 

The scoring system for this pool is really complicated and its fairly time-consuming to keep it up to date. However, it is being gradually done, even if I am a little behind. I hope to have updated scores in the next week or so. 

 

As I have a team in this pool, I pass any decisions on scoring over to the previous host @Clorox Bleachmanwho kindly agreed to be the adjudicator on any potential points of contention, especially relating to the hidden bonuses.  I am currently awaiting decisions on Boris Pahor and Jean-Louis Trintignant, and once I have them, I can move on to the more recent hits.

 

 

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So, where are we with this pool? Lets see - the last hit scored on here was June Brown of 3rd April. Probably about time we had another update then. By my counting we have had 19 hits since then, so there is a lot of scoring and adding up to be done. I won't manage to get all of the update into this one post - I may not even get it all done tonight. But lets make a start anyhow.

 

There are a few items of house-keeping to be done before we get down to business.

 

First up, we have the issue of Natty Wailer. Died on 30th March, but so far no QO in the DDP. In the 2020 scoring, I allowed hits that did not receive a QO (it did not affect the final standings). My reasoning was that the rules did not specifically say that they had to have a QO, unless they were a wildcard pick - "If they die and receive a qualifying obituary for DDP, they will score double points." However this year, Natty Wailer was a wildcard pick by @Salmon Mousse, leaving the question as to whether points should be awarded, and if so, should wildcard points be added. I passed the decision onto our  adjudicator @Clorox Bleachman. The decision was that the line about wildcard picks suggested that a DDP QO was required to score in this game, and that should apply to all selections whether a wildcard or not. So no points for Natty I'm afraid, unless a suitable QO arrives later in the year. Bad luck for Salmon Mousse and also for @Annamiwho is denied a bonus for 2 hits in a day.

 

By the same token, I have not awarded points yet for Ayman Al-Zawahiri who has not yet received the necessary confirmation of death from Al-Qaeda to allow him to be a hit in the DDP.

 

Clorox also made adjudications on the following picks:

 

George Perez : Hidden bonus of 5 points awarded

Boris Pahors : Hidden "bonus" of -3 points awarded

Jean-Louis Trintignant: Hidden bonus of +3 points denied

 

These bonuses will be revealed at the end of the year (or possibly before then).

 

I have made a decision myself to award the +3 points "unnatural death" bonus to James Lovelock as according to Wikipedia he died from "complications related to a fall". I believe this is accepted in the DDP as an "unnatural death", although it is debatable whether a fall is unnatural in a 103 year old man. If anyone has any objections, let me know and I will forward it to Clorox for an official adjudication.

And while double checking his age, I have just realised that he died on his birthday, which means he gets an extra 5 bonus points, and I have to back and re-do the scores :banghead:

 

So you are not getting any more of an update tonight - you can wait a couple of days before I post anything further on the scores. Damn these endless bonuses :rant:

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Good Lord - has it really been a month since I promised you all an update within a couple of days? Oh well, never mind. Let's make a start, because there are a fair few hits to get to by now. 

 

The following were scoring hits:

 

CW McCALL 

+1 Base Point

 

No Bonus

 

+1 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:    Toast 

                  GcReptile

                  Bibliogryphon 

 

 

HARRY BILLINGE

+1 Base Point

+3 Solo Pick

 

+11 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   GcReptile

 

NEHEMIAH PERSOFF

+1 Base Point

 

No Bonus

 

+1 TOTAL POINTS

 

 

Hits for:   An Fear Beag  (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list) 

                 The Old Lady  (Bonus +1  Position 21 in list) (Bonus +2  Hits in order)

                 Doulton 

                 Hell 

                 Perhaps (Bonus +1  Position 36 in list) 

                 Salmon Mousse (Breaks run of hits in order)

                 Great Uncle Bulgaria  

                  Book

                  The Old Crem

                  Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1  Position 34 in list) 

                  Bibliogryphon

                  Msc (Bonus +1  Position 35 in list) 

 

 

TOM SMITH

 

+1 Base Point

+2 DDP DROP 40

+2 Deathlist Alumnus

 

+5 TOTAL POINTS

 

 

Hits for:   An Fear Beag  

                 The Old Lady  (Breaks run of hits in order)

                 Doulton (Bonus +1  Position 46 in list) 

                 The Unknown Man

                 Hell 

                 Wannamaker (Bonus +1  Position 49 in list) (Bonus +2  Hits in order)

                 Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1  Position 46 in list)

                 Salmon Mousse
                 Book (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list)

                 Toast (Bonus +1  Position 2 in list)

                 Pedro67 

                 The Old Crem (Bonus +1  Position 2 in list)

                  Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1  Position 8 in list) 

                  Annami (Bonus +1  Hits in order)

                  Marinisia (Bonus +2  Hits in order)

                  Bibliogryphon (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list)

                

 

 

 

MORE TO FOLLOW .........

 

                 

               

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KANE TANAKA

+1 Base Point

+3 (Hidden Bonus)

+1 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+5 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Joey Russ

                 An Fear Beag (Bonus +1  Position 13 in list)

                 The Old Lady

                 Hell (Wildcard)

                 Wannamaker (Breaks run of hits in order)

                  LizLemon (Breaks run of hits in order)

                 Perhaps 

                 Captain Chorizo 

                 Salmon Mousse (Bonus +1  Position 21 in list)

                 GreatUncleBulgaria 

                 Book

                 Toast 

                  Pedro67

                  The Old Crem  (Wildcard)

                  Bibliogryphon 

                  Annami (Bonus +1  Position 35 in list) (Bonus +2  Hits in order)

                  GcReptile (Bonus +1  Position 8 in list)

                  Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1  Position 3 in list)

                  Msc

 

GEORGE PEREZ

+1 Base Point

+2 DDP DROP 40

+5 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+8 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Joey Russ (Wildcard)

                 An Fear Beag

                 The Old Lady (Wildcard)

                 Doulton (Wildcard)

                 The Unknown Man (Wildcard)

                 Hell (Bonus +1  Position 46 in list)

                 Wannamaker 

                  LizLemon (Bonus +1  Position 36 in list) (Wildcard)

                 Perhaps  (Bonus +1  Position 13 in list)

                 Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1  Position 13 in list) (Wildcard)

                 Salmon Mousse (Bonus +1  Position 11 in list) (Wildcard)

                 GreatUncleBulgaria 

                 Book

                 Toast (Bonus +1  Position 21 in list)

                  Pedro67 (Bonus +1  Position 8 in list) (Wildcard)

                  The Old Crem  (Bonus +1  Position 31 in list)

                  Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1  Position 35 in list) (Wildcard)

                  Annami (Bonus +1  Position 11 in list) (Breaks run of hits in order) (Wildcard)

                  GcReptile (Bonus +1  Position 5 in list) (Wildcard)

                  Marinisia 

                  YoungWillz

                  Msc (Wildcard)

 

MORE TO FOLLOW ........

 

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LESTER PIGGOTT

+1 Base Point

+2 DL Alumnus

+1 Longest Gap between hits

-3 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+1 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Doulton (Bonus +1  Position 26 in list)

                 Perhaps 

                 Gooseberry Crumble (Wildcard)

 

 

BORIS PAHOR

+1 Base Point

+3 (Hidden Bonus)

-3 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+1 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Joey Russ (Bonus +1  Position 6 in list)

                 An Fear Beag

                 The Old Lady (Bonus +1  Position 3 in list)

                 Hell (Bonus +1  Position 3 in list)

                 Wannamaker 

                 Perhaps  (Bonus +1  Position 16 in list) (Wildcard)

                 GreatUncleBulgaria (Wildcard)

                 Book

                 Pedro67 (Bonus +1  Position 2 in list) 

                 Buffalo Phil 

                 Annami

                 Marinisia (Bonus +1  Position 11 in list) 

                 Bibliogryphon (Bonus +1  Position 6 in list) 

                 Msc (Bonus +1  Position 11 in list) 

 

           

JEAN-LOUIS TRINTINGANT

+1 Base Point

+2 DDP DROP 40

 

+3 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Joey Russ 

                 An Fear Beag (Bonus +1  Position 8 in list)

                 The Old Lady

                 Doulton

                 The Unknown Man (Bonus +1  Position 36 in list)

                  Wannamaker (Bonus +1  Position 3 in list)

                  LizLemon

                 Perhaps  (Bonus +1  Position 21 in list)

                 Salmon Mousse 

                 GreatUncleBulgaria 

                 Book

                 Toast 

                  Pedro67 

                  Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1  Position 5 in list) 

                  Annami 

                  GcReptile (Bonus +1  Position 43 in list)

                  Marinisia (Bonus +1  Position 21in list) (Wildcard)

                  Bibliogryphon

                  Msc 

 

 

DEBORAH JAMES

 

+1 Base Point

+1 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+2 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Joey Russ

                 An Fear Beag  (Bonus +1  Position 19 in list)(Wildcard)

                 Doulton (Bonus +1  Position 6 in list)   

                 Perhaps  

                 Captain Chorizo 

                 Salmon Mousse 

                 Book (Wildcard)

                 The Old Crem  (Wildcard)

                  Buffalo Phil 

                  GcReptile (Wildcard)

                  YoungWillz

                  Msc 

 

 

STILL MORE TO FOLLOW ....... (LATER TODAY)

   

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OK - Just time for a few more before I have to do a bit of work....

 

SUSIE STEINER

+1 Base Point

+2 DDP DROP 40

+1 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+4 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   An Fear Beag

                 The Old Lady (Bonus +1  Position 26 in list)

                 Doulton (Bonus +1  Position 43 in list)(Wildcard)

                 The Unknown Man (Bonus +1  Position 11 in list)

                 LizLemon (Bonus +1  Position 8 in list) 

                 Perhaps  (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list) (Wildcard)

                 Captain Chorizo (Wildcard)

                 Salmon Mousse 

                 GreatUncleBulgaria (Wildcard)

                 Book (Wildcard)

                 Toast (Wildcard)

                  Pedro67 (Wildcard)

                  The Old Crem (Wildcard)

                  Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1  Position 26 in list) 

                  Annami (Bonus +1  Position 26 in list) (Wildcard)

                  GcReptile (Wildcard)

                  Marinisia 

                  Bibliogryphon (Wildcard)

                  Msc (Wildcard) (Bonus +1  Position 46 in list) (Wildcard)

 

 

 

LARRY STORCH 

 

+1 Base Point

NO BONUS

 

+1 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Hell (Bonus +1  Position 11 in list)

                 Perhaps 

                 Annami (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list) 

                 GcReptile 

                 Bibliogryphon

 

 

FRANCISCO MORALEZ BERMUDEZ

 

+1 Base Point

+2 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+3 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:    An Fear Beag (Bonus +1  Position 35in list)

                  Hell (Bonus +1  Position 6 in list)

                 Wannamaker 

                  Perhaps

                  Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1  Position 8 in list)

                  Book

                  Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1  Position 21 in list)

                 GcReptile

                  Msc (Bonus +1  Position 13 in list)

 

 

Thats it for now, more should follow later in the day.

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1 hour ago, Perhaps said:

Persoff was a hit for me also.

Indeed he was. My own shorthand failed me, as I translated the PE in my notes to Pedro rather than Perhaps in my post. I will edit it now. The correct points had already been awarded, so no harm done.

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Here are some more hits:

 

JAMES LOVELOCK

+1 Base Point

+3 Unnatural death

+5 Died on Birthday

+5 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+14 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Joey Russ 

                 The Old Lady (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list)

                 Hell (Bonus +1  Position 5 in list)

                 Wannamaker 

                 Perhaps  (Bonus +1  Position 19 in list)

                 Captain Chorizo 

                 Gooseberry Crumble

                 Book (Bonus +1  Position 21 in list)

                  Pedro67 (Bonus +1  Position 46 in list) 

                  Buffalo Phil 

                  YoungWillz

                  Bibliogryphon (Wildcard)

                  Msc (Wildcard)

 

 

BERNARD CRIBBINS

+1 Base Point

+2 DL Alumnus

+5 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+8 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Great Uncle Bulgaria

                 The Old Crem(Bonus +1  Position 41 in list)

                 YoungWillz

                 

 

NICHELE NICHOLS

+1 Base Point

+1 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+2 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   An Fear Beag (Bonus +1  Position 26 in list)

                 Doulton 

                 Wannamaker

                 LizLemon (Bonus +1  Position 2 in list) 

                 Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1  Position 31 in list) 

                  Toast 

                  Pedro67 (Bonus +1  Position 36 in list) 

                  Marinisia 

                  Bibliogryphon

                  

 

OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN

 

+1 Base Point

+2 DDP DROP 40

+2 DL Alumnus

+5 (Hidden Bonus)

+1 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+11 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   An Fear Beag

                 The Old Lady 

                 The Unknown Man 

                 Wannamaker 

                 LizLemon 

                GooseberryCrumble

                 Book (Bonus +1  Position 36 in list)

                 Pedro67  

                 The Old Crem 

                 Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list) 

                 GcReptile (Bonus +1  Position 34 in list)

 

 

Just a few more to follow.................

                 


 

 

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Just a few more popular hits and then we are done:

 

TOM WEISKOPF

+1 Base Point

+2 DDP DROP 40

+3 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+6 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   Joey Russ 

                 An Fear Beag

                 The Old Lady (Bonus +1  Position 5 in list)

                 Doulton (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list)

                 The Unknown Man 

                 Wannamaker 

                 LizLemon (Bonus +1  Position 11 in list) 

                 Perhaps  (Bonus +1  Position 49 in list)

                 Captain Chorizo  (Wildcard)

                 Salmon Mousse (Bonus +1  Position 46 in list) 

                 Toast (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list)

                  Pedro67 

                 The Old Crem  (Bonus +1  Position 3 in list)

                  Annami (Bonus +1  Position 31 in list) 

                  GcReptile (Bonus +1  Position 41 in list) 

                  Marinisia (Bonus +1  Position 46 in list) 

                  YoungWillz

                  Msc (Bonus +1  Position 47 in list) (Wildcard)

 

 

 

BILL TURNBULL

 

+1 Base Point

+2 DDP DROP 40

+2 Deathlist Alumnus

 

+5 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   An Fear Beag

                 The Unknown Man 

                 Hell 

                 Wannamaker 

                 LizLemon 

                 Salmon Mousse 

                 GreatUncleBulgaria (Bonus +1  Position 8 in list)

                 Book (Bonus +1  Position 5 in list) 

                 Pedro67 

                 The Old Crem  (Bonus +1  Position 43 in list)

                  Buffalo Phil 

                  Annami (Bonus +1  Position 2 in list) 

                  GcReptile 

                  Marinisia 

 

 

 

MARSHA HUNT

+1 Base Point

+1(Hidden Bonus)

 

+2 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:   An Fear Beag

                 The Old Lady 

                 Doulton 

                 The Unknown Man

                 Hell (Bonus +1  Position 2 in list)

                 Wannamaker (Bonus +1  Position 11 in list)

                 LizLemon 

                 Perhaps  (Bonus +1  Position 34 in list)

                 Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1  Position 26 in list)

                 Salmon Mousse (Bonus +1  Position 26 in list) 

                 GooseberryCrumble (Bonus +1  Position 35 in list)  

                 GreatUncleBulgaria (Bonus +1  Position 36 in list) 

                 Book

                 Pedro67

                  Buffalo Phil

                  Annami (Bonus +1  Position 36 in list) 

                  Marinisia 

                  Bibliogryphon 

                  Msc (Bonus +1  Position 31 in list) 

 

 

 

QUEEN ELIZABETH II

 

+1 Base Point

+2 DDP DROP 40

+2 DL Alumnus

+1 (Hidden Bonus)

+2 (Hidden Bonus)

 

+8 TOTAL POINTS

 

Hits for:  The Old Lady (Bonus +1  Position 41 in list)

                 Doulton (Bonus +1  Position 34 in list)

                 Hell 

                 Salmon Mousse

                 Book

                 The Old Crem

                 

 

 

That's all folks, at least of the hits that have been flagged. If any of the more obscure selections have died off my radar, please feel free to let me know, and  following an appropriate sweary rant, I will add them to the list.

 

Scoreboard to follow..............

 

                 

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So, that is all the boring stuff out of the way. Now for the only bit that people actually care about - who is winning the bloody thing!

 

We have a clear leader with @Pedro67 out in front, with @CaptainChorizo ready to pounce in second, and The Old pair of Lady and Crem close together in third and fourth.

 

@Gooseberry Crumble's cunning strategy of ignoring all the popular picks (you know, the ones that are actually likely to die) seems to have backfired as the lie in a distant last place.

 

4 players are tied with most hits: @Pedro67 who leads with 118, @gcreptile who is on 97, @Perhaps on 88 and me, who has managed to muster up a mere 81 points from the same number of hits as the leader. @gcreptile was right - this really is a shitty scoring system :angry:

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There is a tendency in academics to "sexify" the results of your research, so that you can squeeze out some proof of your hypothesis based on flimsy evidence. This tendency disregards that the rejection of a hypothesis may be as valuable as the confirmation. To learn that something is NOT correct, does also have some value.

So yeah, it could be a useful result of this competition to learn that the scoring system is, indeed, shit.

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Dunno about the crap scoring, msc's on the comeback trail if I counted all those points up! :D

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Definitely a monumental task though, to get it all together....

 

..... I think Natty Wailer is missing? Is he scoring (not that anyone ever bothered to mention the name in this pool)?

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16 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Definitely a monumental task though, to get it all together....

 

..... I think Natty Wailer is missing? Is he scoring (not that anyone ever bothered to mention the name in this pool)?

 

I mentioned his name - further up this page where I explained why he wasn't scoring :rolleyes:

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I've also just realised that I forgot to actually post the scoreboard :facepalm:

 

Here it is:

 

PEDRO67                                         118        17 Hits

CAPTAIN CHORIZO                        110        15 Hits

THE OLD LADY                                102        14 Hits

THE OLD CREM                               101        14 Hits

BUFFALO PHIL                                  99          16 Hits

GCREPTILE                                        97          17 Hits

BOOK                                                  94          16 Hits

MSC                                                    89           14 Hits

HELL                                                   89           13 Hits

PERHAPS                                           88          17 Hits

BIBLIOGRYPHON                             84           14 Hits

WANNAMAKER                                82           14 Hits 

AN FEAR BEAG                                 81           17 Hits

DOULTON                                          80           14 Hits

LIZ LEMON                                        79           12 Hits

ANNAMI                                             79           11 Hits

THE UNKNOWN MAN                     75           11 Hits

SALMON MOUSSE                           73           13 Hits

GREAT UNCLE BULGARIA               70           12 Hits

JOEY RUSS                                        68           11 Hits

TOAST                                                65           11 Hits

YOUNG WILLZ                                   58           7 Hits

MARINISIA                                         56           11 Hits

GOOSEBERRY CRUMBLE                43           6 Hits

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Ah sorry, I had forgotten about that post. Objection withdrawn!

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I'll be honest, I've double checked my points tally for you three times with the working you gave and come up with three different answers each time, so I'm just going to lie down till my head stops hurting. :D

 

Good work, that chap.

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On 13/09/2022 at 16:24, msc said:

I'll be honest, I've double checked my points tally for you three times with the working you gave and come up with three different answers each time, so I'm just going to lie down till my head stops hurting. :D

 

Good work, that chap.

 

Now you know how I feel - X 24

 

If there are errors, they are likely to be in what I posted on here, rather than in the actual scores, as they are done up on a spreadsheet. I will be double-checking that in detail at the end of the game, so if there are some minor errors, I will pick them up then.

 

Out of curiosity, did any of your three tallies match what I have on the scoreboard?

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