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wow, justin bieber?

31 minutes ago, thadee said:
  1. Jimmy Carter
  2. Charlie Munger
  3. Henry Kissinger
  4. Harry Belafonte
  5. Tony Bennett
  6. Mel Brooks
  7. Bob Newhart
  8. Dick Van Dyke
  9. Joanne Woodward
  10. Clint Eastwood
  11. Amartya Sen
  12. George Soros
  13. Buzz Aldrin
  14. Bruce Willis
  15. Michael Schumacher
  16. Maggie Smith
  17. Jean Marie Le Pen
  18. Tina Turner
  19. John Astin
  20. Edgar Morin
  21. Alain Delon
  22. Françoise Hardy
  23. Claude Sarraute
  24. Roland Dumas
  25. Renaud
  26. Donald Trump
  27. Philippe Bouvard
  28. Vladimir Putin
  29. Volodymyr Zelensky
  30. NLE Choppa
  31. Brigitte Bardot
  32. Celine Dion
  33. Kanye West
  34. Andrew Tate
  35. Jacques Delors
  36. Gérard Mulliez
  37. Justin Bieber
  38. Princess Stéphanie of Monaco
  39. Post Malone
  40. Lil Uzi Vert
  41. Petro Poroshenko
  42. Bernadette Chirac
  43. Doja Cat
  44. Elon Musk
  45. Jacques Attali
  46. Just Fontaine
  47. Ted Kaczynski
  48. Gérard Colomb
  49. Vitali Klitschko
  50. Harvey Weinstein

No subs

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@John Key Just noticed as I was writing all my team lists down that I seem to only have 49 names instead of 50. According to my scrap paper work that should have been Connie Francis but I don't seem to have typed her name in my submitted list according to search so the fault is mine! Apologies!!

It's number 23 missing so please just move my first sub in its place please. 

 

Thanks 

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3 minutes ago, Gooseberry Crumble said:

@John Key Just noticed as I was writing all my team lists down that I seem to only have 49 names instead of 50. According to my scrap paper work that should have been Connie Francis but I don't seem to have typed her name in my submitted list according to search so the fault is mine! Apologies!!

It's number 23 missing so please just move my first sub in its place please. 

 

Thanks 

I have your list as:

 

Gooseberry Crumble

1  Barbara Rush 

2. Gena Rowlands

3. The Dalai Lama 

4. Nigel Starmer Smith 

5. Paco Rabanne 

6. Cindy Adams 

7. Rolf Harris 

8. George Carey 

9  Peter Hordern

10.  Andrew Parker Bowles 

11. Joan Kennedy 

12  Valentino 

13. Jacqueline White 

14. Johnny Mathis 

15  Ann Leslie 

16. Vera Miles 

17. Barbara Edwards 

18. Douglas Hurd

19. David Dickinson 

20. Dickie Rooks 

21. David Steel

22. Robert Redford 

24. Billy Butler 

25. Erin Pizzey 

26. Cissy Houston 

27. Donald Wetzel 

28. Norman Jewison 

29. Queen Sonja of Norway  

30. Joanne Woodward 

31. Frankie Avalon

32. Jacques Delors 

33. Peter Marshall 

34. Barbara Taylor Bradford 

35. Bill Oddie

36. Denis Sassou Nguesso

37. Jeffrey Archer 

38. Bob Packwood 

39. Isabel Peron 

40. Dick Savitt 

41. Dan Rather 

42. Roy Hattersley 

43. Clarence Thomas 

44. Dickie Bird 

45. Emir Nawaf Al-Ahmed  Al- Jaber Al Sabah  of Kuwait 

46. Ken Livingstone 

47. Bobby Charlton 

48. Alex Ferguson

49. Lee Majors 

50. Marianne Faithfull 

Subs

Graham Nash 

Gladys Knight

David Crosby 

Len Goodman

 

Please let me know if there was anything you wanted changed, but it seems like you do have 50 names. 

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5 minutes ago, John Key said:

I have your list as:

 

Gooseberry Crumble

1  Barbara Rush 

2. Gena Rowlands

3. The Dalai Lama 

4. Nigel Starmer Smith 

5. Paco Rabanne 

6. Cindy Adams 

7. Rolf Harris 

8. George Carey 

9  Peter Hordern

10.  Andrew Parker Bowles 

11. Joan Kennedy 

12  Valentino 

13. Jacqueline White 

14. Johnny Mathis 

15  Ann Leslie 

16. Vera Miles 

17. Barbara Edwards 

18. Douglas Hurd

19. David Dickinson 

20. Dickie Rooks 

21. David Steel

22. Robert Redford 

24. Billy Butler 

25. Erin Pizzey 

26. Cissy Houston 

27. Donald Wetzel 

28. Norman Jewison 

29. Queen Sonja of Norway  

30. Joanne Woodward 

31. Frankie Avalon

32. Jacques Delors 

33. Peter Marshall 

34. Barbara Taylor Bradford 

35. Bill Oddie

36. Denis Sassou Nguesso

37. Jeffrey Archer 

38. Bob Packwood 

39. Isabel Peron 

40. Dick Savitt 

41. Dan Rather 

42. Roy Hattersley 

43. Clarence Thomas 

44. Dickie Bird 

45. Emir Nawaf Al-Ahmed  Al- Jaber Al Sabah  of Kuwait 

46. Ken Livingstone 

47. Bobby Charlton 

48. Alex Ferguson

49. Lee Majors 

50. Marianne Faithfull 

Subs

Graham Nash 

Gladys Knight

David Crosby 

Len Goodman

 

Please let me know if there was anything you wanted changed, but it seems like you do have 50 names. 

Number 23 is missing it goes 22 then 24 but the initial error is mine so I think the only realistic solution is to insert my first sub Graham Nash rather than  a name I forgot to post in my initial list?

 

Of course it's up to you 100% but it's either that or having a team with 49 names?

 

Thanks 

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3 minutes ago, Gooseberry Crumble said:

Number 23 is missing it goes 22 then 24 but the initial error is mine so I think the only realistic solution is to insert my first sub Graham Nash rather than  a name I forgot to post in my initial list?

 

Of course it's up to you 100% but it's either that or having a team with 49 names?

 

Thanks 

Oh I see, good eye. 

 

As long as no information about Connie Francis has been revealed in the last 4 days and she hasn't died, I think it's fair to pass the choice onto you. Would you like Graham Nash to be moved up, or for Connie Francis to be moved into your list? (same criteria Graham Nash, no new info and hasn't died)

 

Ultimately, I feel that my position is to be lenient (within reason) because this is about people using their own shadow deathlists, not necessarily just for some silly, meaningless competition :) 

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1 minute ago, John Key said:

Oh I see, good eye. 

 

As long as no information about Connie Francis has been revealed in the last 4 days and she hasn't died, I think it's fair to pass the choice onto you. Would you like Graham Nash to be moved up, or for Connie Francis to be moved into your list? (same criteria Graham Nash, no new info and hasn't died)

 

Ultimately, I feel that my position is to be lenient because this is about people using their own shadow deathlists, not necessarily just for some silly, meaningless competition :) 

Right thanks very much!

As you probably know I am not really competitive and am unlikely to pose any threat to any player in any pool! I just felt it was right to let you know.

My preference would be for Connie  Francis as no new information has come out.

However just so you know, while I am not really competitive  I have treated this as game and thus my own personal shadowlist( which of course is not in any competition ) is slightly different to this list. Some names such as Vera Miles and Jacqueline White are the same but others are different.  In the light of that if you are still OK letting me decide then I pick Connie Francis!

 

Thanks for your patience. 

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10 minutes ago, Gooseberry Crumble said:

Right thanks very much!

As you probably know I am not really competitive and am unlikely to pose any threat to any player in any pool! I just felt it was right to let you know.

My preference would be for Connie  Francis as no new information has come out.

However just so you know, while I am not really competitive  I have treated this as game and thus my own personal shadowlist( which of course is not in any competition ) is slightly different to this list. Some names such as Vera Miles and Jacqueline White are the same but others are different.  In the light of that if you are still OK letting me decide then I pick Connie Francis!

 

Thanks for your patience. 

I put Connie Francis into your 23rd position! 

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Fay Weldon

grimgrass 0+1

theoldlady 0+1

six feet blunder 0+1

Bibliogryphon 0+1

 

Scoreboard:

six feet blunder 1/50

Bibliogryphon 1/50

theoldlady 1/50

Grimgrass 1/50

TheSpinosaurus 0/50

ThereWillBeDeaths7 0/50

 When The 0/50

Dying Probably 0/50

Khthonia 0/50

Charles De Gaulle 0/50

Clarence 0/50

LizLemon 0/50

earl 0/50

Joltin Joe 0/50

ladyfiona 0/50

Steve 0/50

dimreaper 0/50

markb4 0/50

DeathBecomesThem 0/50

LWCZ 0/50

WEP 0/50

Torva Messor 0/50

Gooseberry Crumble 0/50

Johnnas 0/50

Windsor 0/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

wannamaker 0/50

TQR 0/50

Famous6Eva 0/50

MortalCaso 0/50

John Key 0/50

BuffaloPhil 0/50

TheKestrelofDoom 0/50

Pop_Zeus 0/50

tracy 0/50

MrShadrak 0/50

The Daredevil 0/50

The Old Crem 0/50

CaptainChorizo 0/50

MariNisia 0/50

Hell 0/50

Brad252 0/50

Murdoc 0/50

Death Duke 0/50

Thatcher 0/50

_floydylan_ 0/50

Zsa Zsa's leg 0/50

polar duck 0/50

jonnythegamemaster 0/50

gcreptile 0/50

diego 0/50

 

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Frank McGarvey died on the 1st of January. Before I add them to the scoreboard, I welcome discussion about this. 

 

Any questions about when he died, if any of these times may be valid/invalid because of entry, or anything else you can think of should be mentioned now. I will also tag the people who have him as a death so that they may defend their point if they would like. 

 

Frank McGarvey

@Book - 1st January 4:43AMNZST (31st December 3:31PM UK)

@gcreptile - 30th December

@Famous6Eva - 30th December

@Windsor - 29th December

 

I will wait at least a day before adding him to the scoreboard. 

 

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17 minutes ago, John Key said:

Frank McGarvey died on the 1st of January. Before I add them to the scoreboard, I welcome discussion about this. 

 

Any questions about when he died, if any of these times may be valid/invalid because of entry, or anything else you can think of should be mentioned now. I will also tag the people who have him as a death so that they may defend their point if they would like. 

 

Frank McGarvey

@Book - 1st January 4:43AMNZST (31st December 3:31PM UK)

@gcreptile - 30th December

@Famous6Eva - 30th December

@Windsor - 29th December

 

I will wait at least a day before adding him to the scoreboard. 

 


He was chosen by all before the 1st January, therefore he is valid pick for all? he had been on my shadow list since his cancer was made public. 

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On 31/12/2022 at 16:56, John Key said:

I will replace Bernice Johnson with the Pope on your list. Do you mean Eddie Bernice Johnson? That's the name that came up on google. 


Yes, thank you. This is meant to be Eddie Bernice Johnson replacing the late Pope, not Pope Francis moving on!!

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1 minute ago, Windsor said:


He was chosen by all before the 1st January, therefore he is valid pick for all? he had been on my shadow list since his cancer was made public. 

Very likely the case. I will still allow for a period of time for anyone to dispute or discuss (time of death, people inclusion of him)

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Just now, John Key said:

Very likely the case. I will still allow for a period of time for anyone to dispute or discuss (time of death, people inclusion of him)


It’s not disputed. He died after midnight on the 1st January. 
 

I may have missed the grace period in the rules, but if there is no grace period even if he died at 1 minute past midnight it should be accepted. 

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2 hours ago, six feet blunder said:

First hit after only 4 days looks like this could be a bumper year

got my first hit on 4th jan last year- ended up getting 17 total

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Is it too late for me to enter? Guessing so but still worth a shot, I am still on 0/50

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All reports say Frank McGarvey passed away early on 1st January UK time so no problem at all for the four people who selected him getting a point

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He died on January 1st, according to the press, his football club and his family. He was known by the entire forum to be ill since November so no unfair advantage gained by anyone. I fail to see any controversy.

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On 05/01/2023 at 09:37, WinterCake said:

Is it too late for me to enter? Guessing so but still worth a shot, I am still on 0/50

I allow late entries in good faith. 

 

On 05/01/2023 at 10:09, msc said:

He died on January 1st, according to the press, his football club and his family. He was known by the entire forum to be ill since November so no unfair advantage gained by anyone. I fail to see any controversy.

When I looked into it I found the same thing!

I'd open up conversation about an early year death again. 

 

Frank McGarvey

Book 0+1

gcreptile 0+1

Famous6Eva 0+1

Windsor 0+1

 

Scoreboard:

six feet blunder 1/50

Bibliogryphon 1/50

theoldlady 1/50

Grimgrass 1/50

Book 1/50

gcreptile 1/50

Famous6Eva 1/50

Windsor 1/50

TheSpinosaurus 0/50

ThereWillBeDeaths7 0/50

 When The 0/50

Dying Probably 0/50

Khthonia 0/50

Charles De Gaulle 0/50

Clarence 0/50

LizLemon 0/50

earl 0/50

Joltin Joe 0/50

ladyfiona 0/50

Steve 0/50

dimreaper 0/50

markb4 0/50

DeathBecomesThem 0/50

LWCZ 0/50

WEP 0/50

Torva Messor 0/50

Gooseberry Crumble 0/50

Johnnas 0/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 0/50

Redrumours 0/50

wannamaker 0/50

TQR 0/50

MortalCaso 0/50

John Key 0/50

BuffaloPhil 0/50

TheKestrelofDoom 0/50

Pop_Zeus 0/50

tracy 0/50

MrShadrak 0/50

The Daredevil 0/50

The Old Crem 0/50

CaptainChorizo 0/50

MariNisia 0/50

Hell 0/50

Brad252 0/50

Murdoc 0/50

Death Duke 0/50

Thatcher 0/50

_floydylan_ 0/50

Zsa Zsa's leg 0/50

polar duck 0/50

jonnythegamemaster 0/50

diego 0/50

 

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2 minutes ago, John Key said:

I allow late entries in good faith. 

 

 

Thanks! Here is my 2023 DL:

2023 DL

Bob Barker, Jimmy Carter, Dick Van Dyke, Henry Kissinger, David Attenborough, Mel Brooks, Alan Greenspan, Rolf Harris, Caren Marsh Doll, Tony Bennet, Russel M. Nelson, Iris Apfel, June Spencer, Norman Lear, Yoko Ono, Noam Chomsky, Nigel Starmer Smith, Bob Newhart, Carole Cook, Denis Law, Norman Tebbit, Bobby Charlton, Sandy Gall, Glynis Johns, Joyce Randolph, Walter Mirsch,  Janis Paige, Dick Button, Rosalynn Carter, Jean Marie Le Pen, Joan Plowright, Bert I Gordon, Emperor Akhito, Gene Hackman, Burt Bacharach, Shane MGowan, Desmond Morris, Tom Leher, Stanley Baxter, Jacqueline White, Derek Draper, George Soros, Ted Kaczynski, Willie Nelson, William Daniels, Buzz Aldrin, June Lockart, Jaques Pipin, Dennis Skinner, Betty Boothroyd

 

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On 09/12/2022 at 13:32, LizLemon said:

Trying this one for the first time.

 

1 Pele (Died in 2022)

1    Barbara Walters (Died in 2022)

1    Joanne Woodward

2    Jimmy Carter

3    Tony Bennett

4    Henry Kissinger

5    Bob Barker

6    Ruth Buzzi

7    Sandra Day O’Connor

8    Michael Tilson Thomas

9    Steve McMichael

10    Roberta Flack

11    Frederic Forrest

12    James Earl Jones

13    Andy Taylor

14    Edie McClurg

15    Stella Stevens

16    Shannen Doherty

17    Rosalynn Carter

18    Benedict XVI

19    Iris Apfel

20    Buzz Aldrin

21    Noam Chomsky

22    Jack Hanna

23    Jonnie Irwin

24    Glynis Johns

25    Gena Rowlands

26    Vanessa Redgrave

27    Ady Barkan

28    Larry Pressler

29    Isabel Peron

30    Burt Bacharach

31    Linda Ronstadt

32    Dick Button

33    Robert Wagner

34    Francoise Hardy

35   Bernadette Chirac

36   Edward, Duke of Kent

37   Katherine, Duchess of Kent

38   Sonny Rollins

39   Norman Lear

40   Eva Marie Saint

41   Dick Van Dyke

42    Ethel Kennedy

43   Yoko Ono

44   Harry Belafonte

45   Rolf Harris

46   Rachel Ames

47   Randy Jackson

48   Imelda Marcos

49   Gianluca Vialli

50    Bajrakitiyabha

Subs:

S1    Prunella Scales

S2    Imelda Marcos - upped to main team as Pele replacement
S3    Cleo Laine
S4    Mel Brooks
S5    Raul Castro

 

Just noticed while looking over the thread that Pope Benedict is still on my team. Is it too late to sub him out for someone else @John Key? If not, I'd like to promote my first sub, Prunella Scales, up to my main team.

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25 minutes ago, LizLemon said:

Just noticed while looking over the thread that Pope Benedict is still on my team. Is it too late to sub him out for someone else @John Key? If not, I'd like to promote my first sub, Prunella Scales, up to my main team.

That's more than perfectly fine - and generally automatic :) I'll move Scales up on your list so that it's easier and there's no question when I adjust the scoreboard. 

 

9 hours ago, The Daredevil said:

@John Key Gianluca Vialli is a hit here for me and many others

First major death with 30 hits, congrats everyone who's got a hit

I will try and keep a good log of deaths so any mistakes I do can be easily fixed - the numbers of entries has almost doubled from last year and I'm trying a new system. 

 

Gianluca Vialli

Doorslammer 0+1

Book 1+1

Diego 0+1

gcreptile 1+1

philip 0+1

Grimgrass 1+1

_floydylan_ 0+1

Nick 0+1

Death Duke 0+1

Murdoc, Hell, MariNisia, MrShadrak, The Daredevil, The Old Crem, CaptainChorizo, Thatcher 0+1

BuffaloPhil, tracy, Redrumours, wannamaker, TQR, 0+1

Famous6Eva, theoldlady, Windsor 1+1

DeathBecomesThem, Dying Probably, Clarence, LizLemon 0+1

 

 

 

 

 

Scoreboard:

theoldlady 2/50

Grimgrass 2/50

Book 2/50

gcreptile 2/50

Famous6Eva 2/50

Windsor 2/50

six feet blunder 1/50

Bibliogryphon 1/50

Doorslammer 1/50

diego 1/50

philip 1/50

_floydylan_ 1/50

Nick 1/50

Death Duke 1/50

Dying Probably 1/50

Clarence 1/50

LizLemon 1/50

DeathBecomesThem 1/50

Redrumours 1/50

wannamaker 1/50

TQR 1/50

BuffaloPhil 1/50

tracy 1/50

MrShadrak 1/50

The Daredevil 1/50

The Old Crem 1/50

CaptainChorizo 1/50

MariNisia 1/50

Hell 1/50

Murdoc 1/50

Thatcher 1/50

TheSpinosaurus 0/50

ThereWillBeDeaths7 0/50

 When The 0/50

Khthonia 0/50

Charles De Gaulle 0/50

earl 0/50

Joltin Joe 0/50

ladyfiona 0/50

Steve 0/50

dimreaper 0/50

markb4 0/50

LWCZ 0/50

WEP 0/50

Torva Messor 0/50

Gooseberry Crumble 0/50

Johnnas 0/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 0/50

MortalCaso 0/50

John Key 0/50

TheKestrelofDoom 0/50

Pop_Zeus 0/50

Brad252 0/50

Zsa Zsa's leg 0/50

polar duck 0/50

jonnythegamemaster 0/50

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