Lafaucheuse 4,051 Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Sean said: What I would do as it stands if I was the committee next year.Keep: Wouldn’t drop Aldrin who looked frailer than usual in his last appearance and he’s too big to miss at 95 next year. Raul Castro, Imelda Marcos, and Willie Nelson I’d keep to. I’d drop Turner, Barenboim, Eastwood and Morris instead. I’d bring back Liza Minelli, Emperor Akihito, Angie Dickinson (and Maybe Rondsadt ?) with the others you mentioned 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clorox Bleachman 2,438 Posted October 6 They'd be crazy to drop Whale and Nolan. They're in their 5th and 8th years respectively of having stage 4 cancer, with not even a hint of remission. It would be embarrassing to have a repeat of Shannen Doherty next year. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hemlock 742 Posted October 6 25 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: Wouldn’t drop Aldrin who looked frailer than usual in his last appearance and he’s too big to miss at 95 next year. Raul Castro, Imelda Marcos, and Willie Nelson I’d keep to. I’d drop Turner, Barenboim, Eastwood and Morris instead. I’d bring back Liza Minelli, Emperor Akihito, Angie Dickinson (and Maybe Rondsadt ?) with the others you mentioned I’m not sure why you think Angie Dickinson is a good pick. She strikes me as being a female version of Robert Duvall, someone in their early 90’s with no known health issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,051 Posted October 6 8 minutes ago, Captain Hemlock said: I’m not sure why you think Angie Dickinson is a good pick. She strikes me as being a female version of Robert Duvall, someone in their early 90’s with no known health issues. Don’t know Why but she strikes me as the kind who could die soon… just a gut feeling, but I have the Same with Bardot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,478 Posted October 6 Oh, very well. KEEP 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Dick van Dyke 3. Pete Murray 4. Alan Greenspan (very boring but they aren't going to drop him) 5. Francis (too frequently unwell and frail to drop imo) 6. Cleo Laine 7. Sandy Gall 8. Noam Chomsky 9. Robert Wagner (COPD) 10. Mel Brooks 11. Dennis Skinner 12. Nigel Starmer Smith 13. James Whale (with him and Nolan, I agree with people who find them boring and also with Clorox) 14. Stanley Baxter 15. Joanne Woodward 16. Patricia Routledge (would have said drop till I saw her clear signs of decline last month) 17. Clint Eastwood 18. Gene Hackman 19. Jean Marie le Pen 20. Linda Nolan 21. Norman Tebbit 22. Willie Nelson 23. Esther Rantzen 24. Roberta Flack 25. Buzz Aldrin (should be a DL mainstay now even in a disaster.) RETURN 1. David Attenborough (A-list and really really old) 2. Douglas Hurd (big name politician who has been out of the public eye due to ill health for over a decade) 3. Liza Minelli (clearly declining health) 4. Ozzy Osbourne (76 at Christmas if he makes it and slowing down rapidly now) 5. Yoko Ono (frail health, Lewy Body for a decade in 2025) NEW 1. June Spencer (she's really old and famous enough for the list. That's it.) 2. Eva Marie Saint (A list actress) 3. Vera Miles 4. Rupert Murdoch (seems to be slowing down) 5. William Shatner ("I totally beat Stage IV cancer!" "Awesome, Bill, now just pop onto our list.") 6. Joel Grey (said to be in frail health) 7. Jean Marsh (house bound due to stroke/health issues) 8. Alan Bennett (very frail on BBC earlier this year, had the circling the drain look) 9. Julie Goodyear (notably ill) 10. Michael York (has been very ill for over a decade and on prognosis ought to be dead by now. Also, couldn't resist the 3 Cabaret stars together.) 11. Geoff Boycott (cancer, frequent setbacks) 12. Sophie Kinsella (terminal cancer, annoying books, more famous than Genesis Porridge and more sick, too.) 13. Jose Mujica (old, frail and ill) 14. David Irving (old, frail, ill and shit) 15. Charles III (he's the bloody King and he's got cancer) 16. John Prescott (very quiet after massive stroke, recently fully retired, and Labour folk who often blab are keeping his privacy) 17. Joan Plowright (Maggie Smith was concerned about how ill she was...5 years ago.) 18. Frankie Valli (notably frail and frequently unwell) 19. James Watson (the DNA guy this forum tell me is very frail and old) 20. Lady Antonia Fraser (old, frail and sick) DROP 1. Ethel Kennedy 2. Vanessa Redgrave 3. Desmond Morris 4. Hans Blix 5. Julie Walters 6. Tom Brokaw 7. Louis Farrakhan 8. Daniel Barenboim 9. Dick Cheney 10. Prunella Scales 11. Robert Duvall 12. Denis Law 13. Joseph Fritzl 14. Brigitte Bardot 15. Raul Castro 16. Imelda Marcos 17. Ted Turner 18.. Sonny Rollins 19. Joe Bugner 20. Sly Stone 21. Tom Baker 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 6 8 minutes ago, msc said: KEEP 25. Buzz Aldrin (should be a DL mainstay now even in a disaster.) 9 minutes ago, msc said: DROP 18. Buzz Aldrin This is how I do my lists. And probably why I never win much 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,478 Posted October 6 37 minutes ago, En Passant said: This is how I do my lists. And probably why I never win much An excellent peak into my brain at the moment! I'd axed too many people so Buzz got a reprieve, then forgot to take himself off the Drop list. That's my excuse anyway. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MortalCaso 1,629 Posted October 6 Dropping Fritzl feels like a Kacyznski situation. They put him on the list, he will likely die within 2-3 years. Why bother taking him off now? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,957 Posted October 6 Droppable names: Pope Francis (fragile health, but could be fine for some more years) Sandy Gall (will probably go, but who really cares if he is not on the list? calculated risk) Robert Wagner (doing fine, despite COPD and decrepitude) Nigel Starmer-Smith (at this point he can cling on years. Beside that, he would not be that hell of a miss) Vanessa Redgrave (despite all her moans, doing fine) Julie Walters (the obvious drop) Linda Nolan (take the risk, after all she is an attention seeker) Louis Farrakhan (sadly doing very well) Dick Cheney (no issues for a while) Brigitte Bardot (doing well) Ted Turner (still doing very well, will likely see 88/89) Sly Stone (no specific health issues, too young) Tom Baker (doing well) Joe Bugner (too young, a risk to take) I'd keep Castro as he seemed quite thinner at his last appearance. The reality is many of the drops will die anyway, so good luck. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tracy 2,411 Posted October 6 I don't really have any strong feelings about who stays on the list or not. "You can't drop James Whale, he looks fine now but he's still got cancer." Normally I'd agree, but there aren't many good drops anyway. Like, let's say you cut Duvall (which I would endorse) for Whale, and then Duvall trips over his shoelaces and dies. A few deaths like that are bound to happen, but I'd take it as long as we surpass 4/50, which should likely just happen by default. I'd like to see some riskier drops, on that note. They were willing to ignore Attenborough for two years, despite his age and the fact that he's the most too-big-to-miss person in existence. Misses are rarely that logical, anyway. Just look at 2023's. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,051 Posted October 6 Well, as everyone is doing it now and I have nothing better to do of my day… Keep : Carter DVD Greenspan Ethel Kennedy Cleo Laine Noam Chomsky Mel Brooks Dennis Skinner Starmer-Smith Whale Baxter Woodward Hackman Le Pen Law Nolan Norman Tebbitt Willie Nelson Esther Rantzen Roberta Flack Castro Marcos Buzz Aldrin Sonny Rollins Drops : Pete Murray Robert Wagner Routledge Eastwood Redgrave Morris Blix Walters Brokaw Louis Farrakhan Barenboim Dick Cheney Robert Duvall Josef Fritzl Ted Turner Sly Stone Tom Baker Joe Bugner those I can't decide on and who I hope will stay in the event we have a few more hits in the keep section : Pope Francis : frail and old, but not in immediate danger for me, but he's the pope so I wouldn't mind if he stays in… Sandy Gall : could be a drop because I don't care and I feel like I'm not the only one, though he's old and unheard off apparently Prunella Scales : looks great but 8th appearance on DL, they won't drop her and at that age and with that illness, I understand them Brigitte Bardot : sounded frail in her interviews for her birthday, she said herself that she was not her best and the fact she refuses medicine at that age is a bad idea imo bring back : Liza Minelli Emperor Akihito Douglas Hurd David Attenborough Angie Dickinson Yoko Ono Add : Amartya Sen : old, frail, wheelchairbound, few death hoaxes in the last few years, would suggest something is on… Eva Marie Saint : why is she not on the dam list ? Tippi Hedren : dementia sufferer, unable to remember her Hollywood career, a must for 2025 Vera Miles : classic Hollywood pick, between her and Kim Novak I'd choose the oldest Frank Gehry : far too underrated pick imo, recently interviewed in France : has lost a good amount of weight and looks real old… Franki Valli : frail, old, famous Don King : recent health problem suggest he might go sooner than later Quincy Jones : old legend, quite overlooked imo Joan Plowright : as discussed, supposedly ill and old Paul Biya : that's Paul Biya, oldest working head of state and very DL pick imo, recently absent from the OIF summit which raised questions concerning his health Michael Tilson Thomas : classic ill pick King Salman : supposedly really ill, now beginning to be real old too, can't see why not Jose Mujica : ill, frail, forum-favorite at this point Lee Grant : 99 A list actress, her and Eva Marie Saint deserves a spot for their age and fame Sidney Cook : old, frail, supposed to be already dead Judi Dench : I always thought she looked frailish, wouldn't bet 100% on her dying next year but wouldn't bet 100% she'll survive the year also June Spencer : apparently British legend who's far too old to be overlooked once again Léontyne Price : Opera legend, now really old, that's all unfortunately, I'm guessing she's gonna be ignored once again though Georges Soros : old, obese, has looked like a corpse for the last 10 years imo, would be time he makes his debut … and Bernadette Chirac : why not ? the fact she's still alive is a miracle in itself, it's not taking too much risk with this one 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SovietJohnny 95 Posted October 8 On 05/10/2024 at 17:54, Lafaucheuse said: I get that the 25 new candidate rule is useful but it’s quite frustrating, 21 candidates to drop is a huge amount and I expect several drops to die next year. Therefore the score of a list is determined by how good the previous list has been which is frustrating. Maybe 10 new candidates is enough ? You sound like a Tory/Reform supporter…no questioning the rules/system whatsoever until the year it bites you on the arse 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted October 10 Updating my charts I have the following observations. 1. The 2024 list has now drawn level with the disastrous 2011 list but that list did not get its sixth hit until Dec 7th. 2. The next worst list of recent times 2014 finished on 10 Hits but at this stage if the year was on 7 Hits with the eighth coming on day 294 (10 days) 3. The 2020 list was at 14 Hits by this stage of the year 4. The most deaths that have been Hits on the list in the remaining part of the year is 6 so double figures is achievable 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobytomi 124 Posted November 8 I was wondering who would be #1 on the list next year, I imagine it would be Jimmy Carter, but if he became a hit before January, would Dick Van Dyke be #1 again or would they give that spot to Noam Chomsky or Joanne Woodward? who seem also be one of the first-class immortals. Although I can see Dick Van Dyke at #1 if Noam and Joanne became a hits it too before the year is out, next year DVD will turn 100 years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comped 529 Posted November 9 3 hours ago, Bobytomi said: I was wondering who would be #1 on the list next year, I imagine it would be Jimmy Carter, but if he became a hit before January, would Dick Van Dyke be #1 again or would they give that spot to Noam Chomsky or Joanne Woodward? who seem also be one of the first-class immortals. Although I can see Dick Van Dyke at #1 if Noam and Joanne became a hits it too before the year is out, next year DVD will turn 100 years. Dick will likely stay #1 if Jimmy dies, but I could see him getting bumped down a few steps because he is otherwise in good health and not really deserving of #1 if Jimmy or Noam are still alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unknown Man 586 Posted 19 hours ago One month to go and still no sixth hit. If no one else on the 2024 list dies before December 7th, the 2024 list will fall behind the 2011 list. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 355 Posted 18 hours ago 26 minutes ago, The Unknown Man said: One month to go and still no sixth hit. If no one else on the 2024 list dies before December 7th, the 2024 list will fall behind the 2011 list. I always enjoy your statistic analogies of how the year is going in comparison to previous years. Just want to let you know your work in this area is recognized and appreciated. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
