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Philip Heymann (wiki), U.S. Deputy Attorney General under Clinton (1993–1994) and one of the Watergate prosecutors, dead at 89.

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7 hours ago, alt obits guy said:

Alfred Baldwin, a former FBI agent and lookout for the Watergate burglars who became a key government witness in the Richard Nixon scandal, has died. He was 83.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/05/05/watergate-lookout-alfred-baldwin-dead/

Somewhat notable that he actually died two years ago but it wasn't discovered until recently.

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On 06/05/2022 at 08:20, gcreptile said:

Somewhat notable that he actually died two years ago but it wasn't discovered until recently.

 

Somewhat fitting given that it took two years for the conspiracy to be uncovered.

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On 31/03/2021 at 06:01, arrowsmith said:


    John Dean 

    Alfred Baldwin 

    Spencer Oliver 

    Hugh Sloan 

    Judy Hoback Miller 

    Alexander Butterfield 

    Dwight Chapin 

    Kenneth Parkinson ?

    Gordon Strachan 

    Daniel Ellsberg 

    Herbert Porter 

    Carl Bernstein 

    Bob Woodward 

    David Young 

    Earl Silbert 

    Harry Rosenfeld 

    Barry Sussman 

    Donald Segretti 

 

Still some big names around. 

Barry Sussman, city news editor at the Washington Post during Watergate and subsequent reporting, dead: https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/06/02/barry-sussman-watergate-washington-post-dead/

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On 03/07/2012 at 08:14, adrian0719 said:

Our esteemed poster, AngryGreatness gave me the idea for this topic, when he posted about the death of Julian Goodman, who was on the list, in the Watergate Figures thread.

 

I decided to start a whole new thread for Dick's enemies. There were a few, maybe 10, for which I couldn't find birthdates, but they probably weren't/aren't very notable, so I decided not to include them.

 

 

Clifford Alexander Jr., Secretary of the Army, lawyer, LBJ's special assistant, 78

 

Clifford Alexander reportedly dead aged 88: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/04/us/clifford-l-alexander-dead.html

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On 31/03/2021 at 06:01, arrowsmith said:


    John Dean 

    Alfred Baldwin 

    Spencer Oliver 

    Hugh Sloan 

    Judy Hoback Miller 

    Alexander Butterfield 

    Dwight Chapin 

    Kenneth Parkinson ?

    Gordon Strachan 

    Daniel Ellsberg 

    Herbert Porter 

    Carl Bernstein 

    Bob Woodward 

    David Young 

    Earl Silbert 

    Harry Rosenfeld 

    Barry Sussman 

    Donald Segretti 

 

Still some big names around. 

Watergate prosecutor Earl Silbert dies aged 86.

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On 31/03/2021 at 06:01, arrowsmith said:


    John Dean 

    Alfred Baldwin 

    Spencer Oliver 

    Hugh Sloan 

    Judy Hoback Miller 

    Alexander Butterfield 

    Dwight Chapin 

    Kenneth Parkinson ?

    Gordon Strachan 

    Daniel Ellsberg 

    Herbert Porter 

    Carl Bernstein 

    Bob Woodward 

    David Young 

    Earl Silbert 

    Harry Rosenfeld 

    Barry Sussman 

    Donald Segretti 

 

Still some big names around. 

Earl Silbert being reported dead by the Washington Post.

 

One of the first prosecutors.

 

IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0797918/

 

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As there has been some confusion, and the Wikipedia entry is a mess, I went through the sources for the original list of ‘Nixon Enemies’. They can properly be split into three groups as I explain below.

 

Original L ist of 20 has two living:

 

Morton Halperin

Sidney Davidoff

 

Addendum to Original List of “Political Opponents” has 18 living: 

 

Fred Harris

William Clay

Charles Rangel

James S. Doyle

Ted Knap

Morton Kondracke

Martin Nolan

Garry Wills

Marvin Kalb

Bill Cosby

Jane Fonda

Joe Namath

Barbra Streisand

Victor Palmieri

Derek Bok

Noam Chomsky

Daniel Ellsberg

Matthew Meselson

 

- and five that I am having trouble finding obituaries for or proof that they are still alive

 

Vincent McGee? (Business Executives for Peace and Aaron Diamond Foundation)

James Laird? (Philadelphia Inquirer)

George Hillman? (Ellery Products Manufacturing Co.)

Charles Palmer? (National Student Association)

Seymour Scharer? (Scharer & Associates)

 

There is a third list of nearly six hundred names that I am not going to go through because they are merely anyone who worked for, or donated significant money too, the George McGovern campaign in 1968. Many well known people are on this list for no other reason than writing a check. Names which appear on the Wikipedia list but not on the list above are not actually on either of the first two lists. Some of them are on the third list and some of them are apocryphal and unsourced. 

 

Perhaps some of you would be interested in helping find out the fate of the mystery five? Any help is appreciated. 

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35 minutes ago, arrowsmith said:

 

As there has been some confusion, and the Wikipedia entry is a mess, I went through the sources for the original list of ‘Nixon Enemies’. They can properly be split into three groups as I explain below.

 

Original L ist of 20 has two living:

 

Morton Halperin

Sidney Davidoff

 

Addendum to Original List of “Political Opponents” has 18 living: 

 

Fred Harris

William Clay

Charles Rangel

James S. Doyle

Ted Knap

Morton Kondracke

Martin Nolan

Garry Wills

Marvin Kalb

Bill Cosby

Jane Fonda

Joe Namath

Barbra Streisand

Victor Palmieri

Derek Bok

Noam Chomsky

Daniel Ellsberg

Matthew Meselson

 

- and five that I am having trouble finding obituaries for or proof that they are still alive

 

Vincent McGee? (Business Executives for Peace and Aaron Diamond Foundation)

James Laird? (Philadelphia Inquirer)

George Hillman? (Ellery Products Manufacturing Co.)

Charles Palmer? (National Student Association)

Seymour Scharer? (Scharer & Associates)

 

There is a third list of nearly six hundred names that I am not going to go through because they are merely anyone who worked for, or donated significant money too, the George McGovern campaign in 1968. Many well known people are on this list for no other reason than writing a check. Names which appear on the Wikipedia list but not on the list above are not actually on either of the first two lists. Some of them are on the third list and some of them are apocryphal and unsourced. 

 

Perhaps some of you would be interested in helping find out the fate of the mystery five? Any help is appreciated. 


Of the “mysterious five”, do a forum search as I’m pretty sure me and @arghton tried to tackle some of them before. If you still can’t find anything then I’m happy to do some research, and if I get stuck I’ll wheel out the God of Research, the @tracy. :lol:

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2 hours ago, tracy said:


- I was diagnosed with inoperable pancreatic cancer on the basis of a CT scan and an MRI. 
- My cardiologist has given me license to abandon my salt-free diet of the last six years.

 

Dr. Creep thinks he’s discovered the cause of PancC!

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Ted Knap dead at 102.

 

Can’t send link from my phone as it’s Euro blocked and just redirects to some home page when I try to open.

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On 01/03/2023 at 20:36, tracy said:

Ellsberg interviewed on American cable news. He was asked about his diagnosis/prognosis from February and joked about “living on a deadline.” He appears to be doing well under the circumstances. Very much with it.

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Daniel Ellsberg dead at 92.

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On 17/05/2021 at 14:17, arghton said:

It's been 50 years since Charles Colson (1931-2012) compiled the Master list of Nixon's political opponents. John Dean (b. 1938) provided the list to the Senate Watergate Committee in 1973.

 

 

Well, who's still alive from the list? Organizations are not listed. 

 

Members of the House of Representatives (9 in total):

Pete McCloskey (b. 1927)

Elizabeth Holtzman (b. 1941)

 

 

Pete McCloskey reportedly dead: 

Awaiting the usual.

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17 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Pete McCloskey reportedly dead: 

Awaiting the usual.


I appreciate his being placed here because his apocryphal inclusion on the list is widely believed. However, he was not on either the first or second lists. I believe he was on the third “list”, which was not an enemies list really, but he was certainly a lowercase enemy of Nixon. Regardless, good spot and an icon. 

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2 minutes ago, arrowsmith said:


I appreciate his being placed here because his apocryphal inclusion on the list is widely believed. However, he was not on either the first or second lists. I believe he was on the third “list”, which was not an enemies list really, but he was certainly a lowercase enemy of Nixon. Regardless, good spot and an icon. 

Cheers. Reports now coming in: https://abc7news.com/post/pete-mccloskey-former-bay-area-congressman-environmentalist-dies-at-age-96/14784769/

 

Apparently around the turn of the month it was reported he was slipping away.

 

Ah, the days when the GOP stood up for their principles, not their self-aggrandisement.

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On 03/02/2023 at 14:50, arrowsmith said:

 

As there has been some confusion, and the Wikipedia entry is a mess, I went through the sources for the original list of ‘Nixon Enemies’. They can properly be split into three groups as I explain below.

 

Original L ist of 20 has two living:

 

Morton Halperin

Sidney Davidoff

 

Addendum to Original List of “Political Opponents” has 18 living: 

 

Fred Harris

William Clay

Charles Rangel

James S. Doyle

Morton Kondracke

Martin Nolan

Garry Wills

Marvin Kalb

Bill Cosby

Jane Fonda

Joe Namath

Barbra Streisand

Victor Palmieri

Derek Bok

Noam Chomsky

Matthew Meselson

 

- and five that I am having trouble finding obituaries for or proof that they are still alive

 

Vincent McGee? (Business Executives for Peace and Aaron Diamond Foundation)

James Laird? (Philadelphia Inquirer)

George Hillman? (Ellery Products Manufacturing Co.)

Charles Palmer? (National Student Association)

 

There is a third list of nearly six hundred names that I am not going to go through because they are merely anyone who worked for, or donated significant money too, the George McGovern campaign in 1968. Many well known people are on this list for no other reason than writing a check. Names which appear on the Wikipedia list but not on the list above are not actually on either of the first two lists. Some of them are on the third list and some of them are apocryphal and unsourced. 

 

Perhaps some of you would be interested in helping find out the fate of the mystery five? Any help is appreciated. 


Seems reasonable to re-post this. In the interim Knap and Ellsberg have died. I also found obit info for Scharer. 
 

The mystery four are still mysterious. 
 

@Ulitzer95 @arghton @tracy

 

A little help? As I forgot to ask for it last time. 

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2 hours ago, arrowsmith said:

The mystery four are still mysterious.

 

McGee won't die off radar. Here is an old NYT article about him. You can see him in action here: 

 

Charles Palmer is also definitely living. He was later a judge on the Los Angeles County Superior Court from 2002 to 2020, so again, pretty unlikely he will die without any notice. This article has his backstory. Here's his mom's obituary from 2018, and he's briefly mentioned in this 2022 article.

 

George Hillman was working at Ellery at least as far back as 1950, so I looked at the NYC census from then for anyone that could match. The only guy that seems kinda plausible is a George Hillman b. 1901 who worked in the household furnishing industry. Even assuming that's not him, I think we can pretty safely stick a fork in this guy.

 

As for James Laird, well, sucks to be him I guess. EDIT: actually, this is probably him.

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