DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted February 26, 2010 Ariel Sharon is 82 today. He has been in a coma for four years now. Here's an article published last month, which provides some insight in to his grim predicament: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rotten Ali 600 Posted February 27, 2010 Good article - the crux being he now weighs 50 kgs. BMI and start point weight question marks all those 4 years ago. Any one know if he was more than 300lbs in 2006? Taking that as a start point I'll say that we need to cross reference the Tammy Baker and Farrah Fawcett threads. I get the impression Sharon will waste away until he is at the end of this mathmatical slope. So looked for an www.ask.com item and came up with this: Answer Subject: Re: Ariel Sharon's weight Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 05 Jan 2006 12:16 PST Rated: Dear stancranley-ga Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question. According to most sources 78 year old Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is 5?7? tall and weighs 255 lbs. Let?s make a comparison of that information against leading insurance provider Met Life?s chart for ideal weight for men: Ideally a 5' 7" man of small build should weight in the range of 138-145 lbs. Ideally a 5' 7" man of medium build should weight in the range of 142-154 lbs. Ideally a 5' 7" man of large build should weight in the range of 149-168 lbs. That said, Mr. Sharon is at best, 100 lbs or more overweight regardless of his build considering his age and existing health problems. Obesity is determined by the rating one has on the Body Mass Index (BMI) scale. According to the Centers for Disease Control obesity is generally defined as a condition in which a person has in excess of 30 on the Body Mass Index (BMI) scale. Below 18.5 is considered underweight, normal is 18.5 ? 24.9, overweight is 25.0 ? 29.9, and 30.0 and above is considered obese. Using Mr. Sharon?s data in the CDC calculator he rates 39.9 BMI, which is inarguably in excess of merely obese and is officially in the realm of what is generally considered morbidly obese. As with most people who suffer health problem related to chronic obesity, Ariel Sharon has been overweight for many years. In fact, he was never a slender man. In this 1955 photo Mr. Sharon (standing, second from left) is appears to be a fairly fit soldier of relatively ideal weight for his build: Looked at a few other items and got range of heights as both 5' 6" and 5' 8" so 5' 7" is a fair ballpark. I'll take the 255lbs start point (but I think that could be a bit low for him). He now comes in at 110lbs. From wiki: For these individuals, the current value settings are as follows: a BMI of 18.5 to 25 may indicate optimal weight; a BMI lower than 18.5 suggests the person is underweight while a number above 25 may indicate the person is overweight; a BMI below 17.5 may indicate the person has anorexia nervosa or a related disorder; a number above 30 suggests the person is obese (over 40, morbidly obese). I'm getting that he currently has a BMI of between 17.2 and 17.3 It was 40.0 again from wiki: A BMI nearing 15 is usually used as an indicator for starvation and the health risks involved, with a BMI <17.5 being an informal criterion for the diagnosis of anorexia nervosa. Farah died on the 25th June 2009 - we were getting a BMI of 13.67 on 21st April 2009. Losing 2lbs a month I would put her final weight at 82lbs, and a BMI of 13.0 by all accounts TFBM died with a BMI of 12.12 Sharon has lost 145lbs in 48 months - that's 3lbs a month. I'll say an exit post of BMI of 12.5 Now if that's a straight line graph of weight loss from now on at 3lbs a month he will only be 80lbs in Dec'2010 and be at this 12.5 BMI. At 83lbs weight in Nov' he would have the BMI of FF At 77lbs weight in Jan 2011 he would have a BMI of 12.1 (TFBM) Below 76lbs the calculator provides no result and says check your info! At this rate he only has 12 months max. P.S. I've been looking at low BMI deaths Karen Carpenter = 13.4 Ana Carolina Reston = 13.4 Luisel Ramos = 14.5 Elle Ramos = 16.0 However Kate Moss has survived a reported BMI of 14.0, said that she normally has a BMI of about 17.3 And Stephanie Naumoska won a Miss Australia title with a BMI of about 15.1 Sharon at this rate will get to about 13.9 BMI in September 2010. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lard Bazaar 3,800 Posted February 28, 2010 Good article - the crux being he now weighs 50 kgs. BMI and start point weight question marks all those 4 years ago. Any one know if he was more than 300lbs in 2006? Taking that as a start point I'll say that we need to cross reference the Tammy Baker and Farrah Fawcett threads. I get the impression Sharon will waste away until he is at the end of this mathmatical slope. So looked for an www.ask.com item and came up with this: Answer Subject: Re: Ariel Sharon's weight Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 05 Jan 2006 12:16 PST Rated: Dear stancranley-ga Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question. According to most sources 78 year old Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is 5?7? tall and weighs 255 lbs. Let?s make a comparison of that information against leading insurance provider Met Life?s chart for ideal weight for men: Ideally a 5' 7" man of small build should weight in the range of 138-145 lbs. Ideally a 5' 7" man of medium build should weight in the range of 142-154 lbs. Ideally a 5' 7" man of large build should weight in the range of 149-168 lbs. That said, Mr. Sharon is at best, 100 lbs or more overweight regardless of his build considering his age and existing health problems. Obesity is determined by the rating one has on the Body Mass Index (BMI) scale. According to the Centers for Disease Control obesity is generally defined as a condition in which a person has in excess of 30 on the Body Mass Index (BMI) scale. Below 18.5 is considered underweight, normal is 18.5 ? 24.9, overweight is 25.0 ? 29.9, and 30.0 and above is considered obese. Using Mr. Sharon?s data in the CDC calculator he rates 39.9 BMI, which is inarguably in excess of merely obese and is officially in the realm of what is generally considered morbidly obese. As with most people who suffer health problem related to chronic obesity, Ariel Sharon has been overweight for many years. In fact, he was never a slender man. In this 1955 photo Mr. Sharon (standing, second from left) is appears to be a fairly fit soldier of relatively ideal weight for his build: Looked at a few other items and got range of heights as both 5' 6" and 5' 8" so 5' 7" is a fair ballpark. I'll take the 255lbs start point (but I think that could be a bit low for him). He now comes in at 110lbs. From wiki: For these individuals, the current value settings are as follows: a BMI of 18.5 to 25 may indicate optimal weight; a BMI lower than 18.5 suggests the person is underweight while a number above 25 may indicate the person is overweight; a BMI below 17.5 may indicate the person has anorexia nervosa or a related disorder; a number above 30 suggests the person is obese (over 40, morbidly obese). I'm getting that he currently has a BMI of between 17.2 and 17.3 It was 40.0 again from wiki: A BMI nearing 15 is usually used as an indicator for starvation and the health risks involved, with a BMI <17.5 being an informal criterion for the diagnosis of anorexia nervosa. Farah died on the 25th June 2009 - we were getting a BMI of 13.67 on 21st April 2009. Losing 2lbs a month I would put her final weight at 82lbs, and a BMI of 13.0 by all accounts TFBM died with a BMI of 12.12 Sharon has lost 145lbs in 48 months - that's 3lbs a month. I'll say an exit post of BMI of 12.5 Now if that's a straight line graph of weight loss from now on at 3lbs a month he will only be 80lbs in Dec'2010 and be at this 12.5 BMI. At 83lbs weight in Nov' he would have the BMI of FF At 77lbs weight in Jan 2011 he would have a BMI of 12.1 (TFBM) Below 76lbs the calculator provides no result and says check your info! At this rate he only has 12 months max. You sure know how to turn a girl on RA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuber Mirum 125 Posted March 2, 2010 Aye but Sharon is under constant medical supervision. If his weight gets too low then they'll just put a bit more lard in his drip, or whatever. He's also considerably less likely to die of auto-erotic asphyxiation or of getting run over by a bus than most other people, which statistically speaking raises his life expectancy considerably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lard Bazaar 3,800 Posted March 2, 2010 Aye but Sharon is under constant medical supervision. If his weight gets too low then they'll just put a bit more lard in his drip, or whatever. He's also considerably less likely to die of auto-erotic asphyxiation or of getting run over by a bus than most other people, which statistically speaking raises his life expectancy considerably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomb raider 9 Posted March 3, 2010 Aye but Sharon is under constant medical supervision. If his weight gets too low then they'll just put a bit more lard in his drip, or whatever. He's also considerably less likely to die of auto-erotic asphyxiation or of getting run over by a bus than most other people, which statistically speaking raises his life expectancy considerably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted March 5, 2010 Britain agrees to send top resuscitation expert to its old friend in the Knesset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted October 19, 2010 Meet Ariel Sharon in a coma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rotten Ali 600 Posted October 20, 2010 Meet Ariel Sharon in a coma. To me all that looks very sugar coated! Sure we got drift of news that Sharon was very low BMI (p.s. said to weigh 50kg in Feb 2010) and I don't think the doctors would have him proped up on his back - more likely he would be flat on his back with one pillow. As for having his eyes open? They would dry within minutes without the blink reaction and if he had any ability to have nerve input (which I'm sure he has none) would become very painfull. To care for any length of head hair would be extra trouble - and I'm sure this would be kept very short. Oh and loads of visable scars round his flip top head would jar too much for the artist to reflect. In short I guess it's total BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,618 Posted November 10, 2010 Apparently, he's ready to go home. breathing independently... occasionally needed an oxygen mask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted November 11, 2010 That'll curtail his son's business activities. The younger Sharon has been lording it in the hospital, wheeling and dealing at his dad's bedside. Dead pool wise it does make the future harder to predict. On the one hand that is an impressive recovery and evidence that we'd be daft to pick him On the other hand this man has enemies, some armed and well trained, and if he's remotely in the sights of a weapon, he won't exactly be able to dodge out of the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted November 11, 2010 I was thinking he was being let home because they think he will die soon That's just the impression I got of the situation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted February 9, 2011 Turns 83 on the 26th, guess it'll be a quiet one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notaguest 16 Posted June 25, 2011 Maybe he'll die when we get to the 666th post of this thread... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted June 25, 2011 Maybe he'll die when we get to the 666th post of this thread... Allow me to do the honours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shock Limelight 0 Posted June 25, 2011 It would be a brilliant shock to the crowd here if Ariel awoke and regained conciousness to such an extent that he could communicate with others and recall passed events. Two or three hours later, after finding our what year it is, he has another stroke and falls back into the trance! Death improbable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notaguest 16 Posted June 25, 2011 Ironically his coma may have prolonged his life what with losing all that fat and reduced stress etc.I think his parents lived to their 90s so we may have a long wait yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fourty-two 1 Posted June 26, 2011 Holy Shitkina (Shikina), batman! how atrophied is his body now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Body Snatcher 44 107 Posted November 10, 2011 Hmmmm - maybe it isn't as dire as we thought... http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/11/09/%E2%80%98like-a-sleeping-lord%E2%80%99-son-of-former-israeli-prime-minister-eulogizes-ariel-sharon/ unless, of course, they are simply sugarcoating the situation. For what my opinion is worth - maybe we should reevaluate his placing on the list as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted November 10, 2011 He can focus his eyes and move his fingers...I reckon he's fit enough to get out and promote that book! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mordechai arens Posted November 10, 2011 Ariel Sharon may live for years tio come,but my Israeli sources tell me that another former PM Yitzhak Shamir m ay have only a very short time to live. The days ahead may bring interesting news for deathlist.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,538 Posted November 10, 2011 my Israeli sources Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jimmy Posted January 14, 2012 Maybe under his description you should add "State Terrorist". It's more befitting than his current description of ex-prime minister given that he spent much of his life committing or overseeing actions of terrorism and massacres (Sabra and Shatila), and a mere few years as prime minister. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Body Snatcher 44 107 Posted March 11, 2012 http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/6-years-after-stroke-sharon-aide-says-israeli-leader-would-not-have-stayed-on-life-support/2012/03/06/gIQAtU4puR_story.html prehaps this is the first whispers of him being taken off lifesupport? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted March 12, 2012 http://www.washingto...4puR_story.html prehaps this is the first whispers of him being taken off lifesupport? if he makes it to 90 (he's allready more than halfway there) maybe his sons will come to the obvious conclusion and switch the machine off.even without the coma he m ight never have lived to 90 anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites