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This was the cabinet in 1989:

 

Margaret Thatcher - Prime Minister

Lord Whitelaw: Deputy Prime Minister and Lord President of the Council

Lord Havers: Lord Chancellor

John Wakeham: Lord Privy Seal

Nigel Lawson: Chancellor of the Exchequer

John Major: Chief Secretary to the Treasury

Geoffery Howe: Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs

Douglas Hurd: Secretary of State for the Home Department

John MacGregor: Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food

George Younger: Secretary of State for Defence

Kenneth Baker: Secretary of State for Education and Science

Norman Fowler: Secretary of State for Employment

Cecil Parkinson: Secretary of State for Energy

Nicholas Ridley: Secretary of State for the Environment

John Moore: Secretary of State for Health

Kenneth Clarke: Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

Tom King: Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

Malcolm Rifkind: Secretary of State for Scotland

Lord Young of Graffham: Secretary of State for Trade and Industry

Paul Channon: Secretary of State for Transport

Peter Walker: Secretary of State for Wales

Excluding Dennis, there are 26 in the photo,

 

so who are the interlopers?

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This was the cabinet in 1989:

 

Margaret Thatcher - Prime Minister

Lord Whitelaw: Deputy Prime Minister and Lord President of the Council

Lord Havers: Lord Chancellor

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Not sure the list is the cabinet from 1989, as the person far left, front row, is Lord Mackay of Clashfern, who replaced Lord Havers in 1987 and was Lord Chancellor until 1997 when the Tories lost power.

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Can I just say (losing my cherry here...) Maggie was the greatest thing to happen to Britain in many a year . I shall certainly NOT be including her on any of my lists

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Well, she tended to walk over endless dead bodies to get what she wanted, but those who didn't admire her stalwart defence of the UK's EU budget rebate will probably be thanking Mr Blair at the moment. :sicktherm:

Horrible woman nonetheless, and not long for this world.

 

I think that picture includes ministers from the whole 1979-89 period. Some of them must be getting a bit wobbly by now.

 

Welcome Mr. Grobler, and thank you for your HDP entry.

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I see Anthony Barber popped it over the weekend......one of Heaths cronies....I do think that elderly politicians are well worth a punt in the ol' game of death . Unbelievable pressure takes its toll . Unlike members of the Royal Family....who live a pampered life...and grow very , very old !

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Unlike members of the Royal Family....who live a pampered life...and grow very , very old !

Indeed. :wub:

 

We would not have it any other way.

 

Afterall, only the good die young.... :angry:

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Afterall, only the good die young.... :angry:

I say it goes both ways. :wub:

You mean: only the young die good?

 

Could well be.

 

regards,

Hein

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Afterall, only the good die young.... :angry:

I say it goes both ways. :wub:

You mean: only the young die good?

 

Could well be.

 

regards,

Hein

Well i'm saying that the good die young and the good die old.

 

I'm saying the bad die young and the bad die old.

 

;)

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I can confirm that 3 people from the 1989 cabinet are dead..Lord Belstead,george Younger and Nicholas Ridley..former m,embers of Thatchers cabinet who are also dead include Keith Joseph,Mark Carlisle,Lord Hailsham,Lord Havers,William Whitelaw,Lord Soames,Angus Maude ,Lady Young and Humphrey Atkins.

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Excluding Dennis, there are 26 in the photo,

 

so who are the interlopers?

Josco?

Sorry ATJ, are you asking my opinion, or did you think I was in that picture.

 

 

Well, she tended to walk over endless dead bodies to get what she wanted, but those who didn't admire her stalwart defence of the UK's EU budget rebate will probably be thanking Mr Blair at the moment. 

Horrible woman nonetheless, and not long for this world.

 

Oh dear, we do keep disagreeing on this point, spuddy ol' chum! Possibly the greatest leader seen in the latter half of the last century whose legacy has been squandered by the Bliar/Brown twunts.

Sadly will probably pass on very soon and is the only realistic choice on my HeartyPool entry.

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Excluding Dennis, there are 26 in the photo,

 

so who are the interlopers?

Josco?

Sorry ATJ, are you asking my opinion, or did you think I was in that picture.

Bit of both, old chap.

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Excluding Dennis, there are 26 in the photo,

 

so who are the interlopers?

Josco?

Sorry ATJ, are you asking my opinion, or did you think I was in that picture.

 

 

Well, she tended to walk over endless dead bodies to get what she wanted, but those who didn't admire her stalwart defence of the UK's EU budget rebate will probably be thanking Mr Blair at the moment. 

Horrible woman nonetheless, and not long for this world.

 

Oh dear, we do keep disagreeing on this point, spuddy ol' chum! Possibly the greatest leader seen in the latter half of the last century whose legacy has been squandered by the Bliar/Brown twunts.

Sadly will probably pass on very soon and is the only realistic choice on my HeartyPool entry.

Josco has hit upon the most important point in any current discussions of the Leaderene.

 

With only a few weeks to go-Should she be on DL2006?

 

Any thoughts moderators?

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I'm not a mod but I'm giving my opinion anyway.

 

I feel that she's not going anywhere any time soon.

If she does die in 2006 it will most likely be later on in the year.

It seems that too much has been made of her forgetfulness and dizzy spell in the hairdressers.

 

I watched a documentary on her downfall from No.10 last night/ this morning. I felt sorry for her. :lol: But then I rememberedher political philosophy (or atleast my interpretation of it).

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Possibly the greatest leader seen in the latter half of the last century

Not exactly stiff competion that Maggie's up against,

 

Callaghan, was totally ineffectual,

 

Heath, less said the better,

 

Wilson, started out well, but accomplished little of note,

 

Home, who?

 

Eden, Suez debacle,

 

The only one to come close to giving her a run for her money, would be Macmillan.

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Is that greatest British leader? If so, I would agree and might agree if it was extended to the rest of the world. I couldn't stand her but she changed the world and probably for the better. If it wasn't for MT and Reagan Chelsea would probably be fighting it out at the foot of the Premiership. You might think about that.

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Well, she tended to walk over endless dead bodies to get what she wanted, but those who didn't admire her stalwart defence of the UK's EU budget rebate will probably be thanking Mr Blair at the moment. 

Horrible woman nonetheless, and not long for this world.

 

Oh dear, we do keep disagreeing on this point, spuddy ol' chum! Possibly the greatest leader seen in the latter half of the last century whose legacy has been squandered by the Bliar/Brown twunts.

Sadly will probably pass on very soon and is the only realistic choice on my HeartyPool entry.

Damning with faint praise a bit there aren't you Josco old thing?

Let me see..

 

we have:

Clement Attlee

Winston Churchill (2nd term; didn't win any wars this time)

Anthony Eden (Suez Crisis)

Harold McMillan

The Earl of Home

Harold Wilson (Devalued the Pound, Industrial Disputes)

Edward Heath (common agricultural policy)

Harold Wilson again (hade to be baled out by the IMF)

James Callaghan (Winter of Discontent)

Margaret Thatcher (riots, moral bankruptcy, poll tax)

John Major (can't think of anything he did)

Tony Blair (enough said)

 

My vote is for Attlee or McMillan.

 

Time for a poll? Millwall?

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Callaghan, was totally ineffectual,

Where is your evidence to this statement? :lol:

I'm near certain that you weren't in Britain for The Winter of Discontent,

 

If you had been, you wouldn't be asking that question.

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Is that greatest British leader? If so, I would agree and might agree if it was extended to the rest of the world. I couldn't stand her but she changed the world and probably for the better. If it wasn't for MT and Reagan Chelsea would probably be fighting it out at the foot of the Premiership. You might think about that.

I think you mean this:

 

1). If MT and Reagan weren't around, the Cold War would never have ended

(disputable point).

 

2). If the Cold War had never ended, the Russian state utilities would never have been sold off.

 

3). If the Russian state utilities had never been sold off, Roman Abramovich would never have become a billionaire.

 

4). If Roman Abramovich had never become a billionaire, he could never have bought Chelsea.

 

5). If Roman Abramovich had never bought Chelsea, they would be a much worse team, probably near the foot of the Premiership.

 

Or maybe I've read way too much into your remark. :lol:

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That's it precisely, ergo Margaret Thatcher caused Chelsea. She has a lot to answer for.

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That's it precisely, ergo Margaret Thatcher caused Chelsea. She has a lot to answer for.

What about Chelsea. :lol:

To think, Margaret Thatcher probably had a greater influence on Chelsea than Chopper Harris

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