dead Ian Paisley

[romancatholicboy 0]

Hi! Just joined the board.

 

I just know about ian paisley today. and he certainly makes me laugh by his anti-catholicism. I think the pope now has control over his life. If benedict xvi wish to make paisley dead now, he can do it by simply plan a visit to northern ireland, which almost certainly make him shocked. And then the pope can lead the funeral mass (requiem).

 

I love him!! He makes me laugh by his foolishness and childishness. I can't breath today, reading jokes about him.

 

May he rest in peace soon, but his memory of foolishness and childishness will stay alive. I predict it will be next year, or before ratzinger.

[Banshees Scream 110]

I love him!! He makes me laugh by his foolishness and childishness. I can't breath today, reading jokes about him.

romancatholicboy - If you were a celebrity that hint you

gave me might qualify you for a future list.

 

Welcome to the DL.

[romancatholicboy 0]

Hahahaha...

Thanks for the welcome message. Just discovered this forum and i think this is very interesting forum!

[Guest Himler]

Creationism is nothing new, it was suggested to us in primary school that the world was created to look as if it had evolved, to test our faith in God.

I in turn suggested that indeed I may be the son of God and my whole life is a God induced illusion to test my belief in him to see if I am a worthy son.

I thought such abstract ideas were bollocks until I started looking into string theory and the like.

 

Now i'm not so sure

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

Dunno about Creationism but many creationists have hairlines and jaw lines that suggest a lack of development beyond the neanderthal!

[Canadian Paul 97]

Dunno about Creationism but many creationists have hairlines and jaw lines that suggest a lack of development beyond the neanderthal!

Creationist and Evolutionist are such broad terms. Here is an interesting link describing different types of creationism and there's another list for types of Evolutionists that I can't find.

 

I had a class once that sorted them all out, but I forget where I ended up on the spectrum. Personally, I'm a bit of a Deist with a strange view on the implict determinism (which I don't quite believe in).

 

But uh... personal philosophy can be saved for PM if anyone's interested. Moving back on topic, how has the old Reverend been doing as of late?

[Paul Bearer 6,101]

Surprisingly still alive.

[One shot Paddy 1,205]

Didn't go to a meeting recently, not sure if that was for health or security reasons, may be latter as it was to take place on the edge of "bandit country"!

[makepeace 0]

I once asked my died as to why the IRA never attempted to kill Paisley. He replied that Ian Paisley was the best advertisment for republicanism that the IRA had...

Hi to all on the board, excellent website btw. I don't want to get into a political slanging match, but I think Mr Paisley was the one of the reason's for the IRA's formation and hence the reason the IRA never made an attempt on his life. One of his outbursts filled the IRA recruitment book. His actions are enough to have filled a few deathlist top 50's albeit not of famous people. Having said that the paramilitaries on both sides could boast the same many times over, some of which Mr Paisley has close connections with.

[Magere Hein 1,400]

Hi to all on the board, excellent website btw.

Welcome on board the good ship DeathList, makepeace.

 

I hope those idiots in N.I. will.

 

regards,

Hein

[Shapwee 0]

Hi to all on the board, excellent website btw.

Welcome on board the good ship DeathList, makepeace.

 

I hope those idiots in N.I. will.

 

regards,

Hein

 

 

One of those idiots in N.I here! What people have forgot to mention is that Ian Paisley is one of the most stubborn men ever to exist on this planet - he is going nowhere! Much as many people will celebrate when he snuffs it, he will also equally take great pleasure from staying alive for as long as possible - and denying so many people this pleasure.

[Godot 149]

Hi to all on the board, excellent website btw.

Welcome on board the good ship DeathList, makepeace.

 

I hope those idiots in N.I. will.

 

regards,

Hein

 

 

One of those idiots in N.I here! What people have forgot to mention is that Ian Paisley is one of the most stubborn men ever to exist on this planet - he is going nowhere! Much as many people will celebrate when he snuffs it, he will also equally take great pleasure from staying alive for as long as possible - and denying so many people this pleasure.

 

Isn't he going to Hell?

[M Busby Airlines 7]

Hi to all on the board, excellent website btw.

Welcome on board the good ship DeathList, makepeace.

 

I hope those idiots in N.I. will.

 

regards,

Hein

 

 

One of those idiots in N.I here! What people have forgot to mention is that Ian Paisley is one of the most stubborn men ever to exist on this planet - he is going nowhere! Much as many people will celebrate when he snuffs it, he will also equally take great pleasure from staying alive for as long as possible - and denying so many people this pleasure.

 

Isn't he going to Hell?

 

Hell for a hustler.That is all he ever was.

 

Ian Paisley Rap.

[Shapwee 0]

Hi to all on the board, excellent website btw.

Welcome on board the good ship DeathList, makepeace.

 

I hope those idiots in N.I. will.

 

regards,

Hein

 

 

One of those idiots in N.I here! What people have forgot to mention is that Ian Paisley is one of the most stubborn men ever to exist on this planet - he is going nowhere! Much as many people will celebrate when he snuffs it, he will also equally take great pleasure from staying alive for as long as possible - and denying so many people this pleasure.

 

Isn't he going to Hell?

 

Hell for a hustler.That is all he ever was.

 

Ian Paisley Rap.

 

The 'Rev.' Ian Paisley is a Member of the British and European Parliaments. He is the founder and only head of the Free Presbyterian Church, which has a fundamentalist Christian perspective on most issues. It has 49 Churches in British Occupied Ireland and 10 abroad. While no priest has ever been elected to government office in the 26 Counties, even though Paisley claims the Republic is controlled by the Roman Catholic Church, Protestant ministers, including Mr. Paisley, have always been prominent in the electoral politics of the North, "a Protestant State for a Protestant People." Ian Paisley is the head of the Democratic Unionist Party.

 

Political writers Moloney and Pollack describe him as a man of contradictions, "... a Christian minister who incites religious hatred and threatens bloody civil war. He is a constitutional politician who leads coat trailing, sectarian street protests. He claims to believe in democracy yet runs his church like a Protestant pope and his party [DUP] like a medieval despot."

 

Disputed Divinity Degrees

from the U.S.

 

He received an honorary degree from Bob Jones University of South Carolina in 1966 and is a regular preacher there. To this day, his actual ordination is the subject of controversy. It was never valid under Presbyterian rules. He obtained a B.A. in Divinity from Pioneer Theological Seminary in Rockville, Ill. in 1954 and an honorary doctorate 7 months later. He received a Masters Degree from Burton College and Seminary in Manitou Springs, Colorado. Both are bogus, disreputable correspondence schools described as "degree mills" by the US Dept. of Education.

 

In 1993 he visited the Cub Hill Bible Presbyterian Church in Baltimore, Maryland and often tours American fundamentalist churches. He is described as a "fearless preacher of God's word and a contender for the faith once delivered unto the saints." He is also one of the most vicious anti-Catholic hate mongers and is implicated by the actions of his own followers in conspiring to deprive Catholics of their lives, rights and property in the British Occupied Counties of Ireland.

 

His Position on Catholics

 

In 1956, Rev. Paisley abducted a 16 year old girl, Maura Lyons, who was in a dispute with her parents about joining the Free Presbyterian Church. He attempted to use her as an anti-Catholic propaganda stunt and would not inform police where she was. Paisley was later ordered in court never to go near the girl or her family again.

 

In 1959, the Presbyterian Moderator of Ireland was on tour of churches and visited a Catholic priest, the Rev. J. Wilson, whom he had befriended. Rev. Paisley described this act of human friendship as an act of "blasphemy".

 

In April, 1958, Rev. Paisley sponsored Juan Arrien, a Spanish ex-priest, who performed exaggerated "mock masses" as part of an anti-Catholic road show. When Fr. Murphy of Ballymurphy protested that a public facility was to be used for this sectarian, anti-Catholic show, Rev. Paisley responded in his magazine, Revivalist, "We know your church to be the mother of harlots and the abomination of the earth."

 

On June 17, 1959, at a Belfast rally, he publicly chastised "the men of the Shankill for allowing papists, pope's men, and papishers" to live on the Shankill Rd. Angry crowds went to the addresses called out by Paisley, burned out the occupants and looted their homes.

 

As religious ecumenism was progressing between Churches and Religions during the 1960s, a Catholic priest actually preached in Westminster Abbey and Protestant ministers were welcomed in Catholic churches, Mr. Paisley was -- and still is -- wild with recrimination and bigotry at any intra-religious experience or sharing of ideas.

 

In keeping with the above attitude, he called Pope John XXIII a "Roman anti-Christ" and his Church the "Harlot of Babylon". On June 3, when the Pope died, Paisley roared, "This romish man of sin is now in hell."

 

In May of 1968, during the height of the Civil Rights movement in the North, Paisley addressed a mob of 500 loyalists and burned a photograph of Prime Minister O'Neil who was shown to be visiting a Catholic convent the week before.

 

After inciting loyalists to burn Catholic families out of their homes, the Rev. Paisley explained the problem to the press: His exact words were "Catholic homes caught fire because they were loaded with petrol bombs; Catholic churches were attacked and burned because they were arsenals and priests handed out sub-machine guns to parishioners; and the massive discrimination in employment and shortage of houses for Catholics were simply because they breed like "rabbits" and multiply like "vermin".

 

William Beattie, a loyal lieutenant of Rev. Paisley, addressed a DUP Youth Group after the Anglo-Irish Accord was signed by the Dublin and London governments in 1986: "We must hire assassins to kill Catholics and pay them when the job is done."

On Violence

 

Several founding members and early leaders of the Ulster Defense Association were close confidants and workers for Paisley. Between 1971 and 1976 alone, the UDA [ulster Defense Association] and its cover organizations murdered 600 Catholics. Freddie Parkinson, a leader of the UDA, stated in 1984, that Paisley was "a tarantula who spreads the venom of further conflict and has been a major contributor to our prolonged tragedy."

 

John McKeague, a disciple of Free Presbyterianism, founded the murderous Red Hand Commandos. Billy Mitchel, a gunman for the Ulster Volunteer Force murder squads, was a Sunday school teacher for the Free Presbyterian church. William McGrath, founder of a paramilitary group that called for the banning of the Catholic Church, was convicted in 1981 of sexual abuse of children.

 

Paisley's most trusted aide in London is Rev. Brian Green, a man with close links to the National Front, a Nazi organization.

 

Billy and Gusty Spence, founders of the UVF murder gang, and Ken Gibson, Tommy Heron and Davey Payne, leaders of the UDA, served as organizers at Paisley's rallies, In 1969, bombings around the North were falsely attributed to the IRA. Paisley's bodyguard, Sammy Stevenson turned Queen's evidence admitting he and Tommy McDowell, a Free Presbyterian, conspired to set off the bombs in loyalist districts in order to further incite the loyalist community.

On Freemasons

 

They got their strength from the excreta that runs from the sewer pipes of Hell." Once Paisley learned wealthy Freemasons in America were supporting his churches, he had a vision that Freemasons should be admitted to the Free Presbyterian church.

 

On Jews

 

"The Unionist party are boasting he [Harold Smith] is a Jew. As a Jew, he rejects our Lord Jesus Christ, the New Testament, Protestant principles, the Glorious Reformation and the sanctity of the Lord's day. The Protestant throne and the Protestant constitution are nothing to him."

 

On Journalists

 

"... the whirring multitudes of pestiferous scribbling rodents... who usually sport thick lensed glasses, wear six pairs of ropey sandals, are homosexuals, kiss holy medals or carry secret membership cards of the Communist party... spineless, brainless mongoloids. But, because of it, maliciously perilous as vipers."

 

On Censorship

 

The Democratic Unionist Party, the political wing of the Free Presbyterian Church, passed a resolution at its 1978 annual conference to condemn blasphemous literature like John Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men.

 

On Women

 

Valerie Shaw, secretary of a Free Presbyterian church, discovered sexual abuse of boys at Kincora School by Paisley confidant William McGrath. She tried to get Paisley to give the matter his spiritual attention for years. When he did not, she left the church. Since then, no woman can hold official office in the church leadership.

 

On the EEC

 

Paisley berated the European Economic Community as part of a "papal plot" and the "bride of the anti-Christ." He sought the seat to the European parliament because God told him to "sit amongst the frog eaters [French] and the snail mongers [belgians]."

 

On Being British

 

In a debate with Bernadette Devlin in June 1968, Paisley defended himself regarding a position Devlin thought was unfair by stating he "would rather be British than be fair."

 

Others on Ian Paisley

 

DUP barrister Robert McCartney stated that "Paisley is a fascist who is more interested in an independent Ulster, a mini-Geneva run by a fifth-rate Calvin, than Union with Britain."

 

Imprisoned UDA leader Freddie Parkinson, in appeal for non-violence by Paisley: "I remember the paramilitary megalomaniac who beckoned us to follow him but who later abandoned us to be scored as common criminals."

 

On the day of MP Robert Bradford's funeral, the Daily Telegraph [London] stated, "The posturing of Mr. Paisley continues to persuade the British people that Ulster is a strange and alien land which tends to inspire not terror but ridicule."

 

Perhaps people may wish to nominate him for the 2007 death list!

[Godot 149]

Shapwee you're not related to the Pope by any chance? Father Ted? I take it you too think he's going to Hell then?

 

Godot CFY

[Shapwee 0]

Shapwee you're not related to the Pope by any chance? Father Ted? I take it you too think he's going to Hell then?

 

Godot CFY

 

That is putting words in my mouth. It is not my place to judge where he goes when his life ends. I do have some choice though (if you could call it that) and I wouldn't personally vote for his party the DUP!

[M Busby Airlines 7]

Hi to all on the board, excellent website btw.

Welcome on board the good ship DeathList, makepeace.

 

I hope those idiots in N.I. will.

 

regards,

Hein

 

 

One of those idiots in N.I here! What people have forgot to mention is that Ian Paisley is one of the most stubborn men ever to exist on this planet - he is going nowhere! Much as many people will celebrate when he snuffs it, he will also equally take great pleasure from staying alive for as long as possible - and denying so many people this pleasure.

 

Isn't he going to Hell?

 

Hell for a hustler.That is all he ever was.

 

Ian Paisley Rap.

 

The 'Rev.' Ian Paisley is a Member of the British and European Parliaments. He is the founder and only head of the Free Presbyterian Church, which has a fundamentalist Christian perspective on most issues. It has 49 Churches in British Occupied Ireland and 10 abroad. While no priest has ever been elected to government office in the 26 Counties, even though Paisley claims the Republic is controlled by the Roman Catholic Church, Protestant ministers, including Mr. Paisley, have always been prominent in the electoral politics of the North, "a Protestant State for a Protestant People." Ian Paisley is the head of the Democratic Unionist Party.

 

Political writers Moloney and Pollack describe him as a man of contradictions, "... a Christian minister who incites religious hatred and threatens bloody civil war. He is a constitutional politician who leads coat trailing, sectarian street protests. He claims to believe in democracy yet runs his church like a Protestant pope and his party [DUP] like a medieval despot."

 

Disputed Divinity Degrees

from the U.S.

 

He received an honorary degree from Bob Jones University of South Carolina in 1966 and is a regular preacher there. To this day, his actual ordination is the subject of controversy. It was never valid under Presbyterian rules. He obtained a B.A. in Divinity from Pioneer Theological Seminary in Rockville, Ill. in 1954 and an honorary doctorate 7 months later. He received a Masters Degree from Burton College and Seminary in Manitou Springs, Colorado. Both are bogus, disreputable correspondence schools described as "degree mills" by the US Dept. of Education.

 

In 1993 he visited the Cub Hill Bible Presbyterian Church in Baltimore, Maryland and often tours American fundamentalist churches. He is described as a "fearless preacher of God's word and a contender for the faith once delivered unto the saints." He is also one of the most vicious anti-Catholic hate mongers and is implicated by the actions of his own followers in conspiring to deprive Catholics of their lives, rights and property in the British Occupied Counties of Ireland.

 

His Position on Catholics

 

In 1956, Rev. Paisley abducted a 16 year old girl, Maura Lyons, who was in a dispute with her parents about joining the Free Presbyterian Church. He attempted to use her as an anti-Catholic propaganda stunt and would not inform police where she was. Paisley was later ordered in court never to go near the girl or her family again.

 

In 1959, the Presbyterian Moderator of Ireland was on tour of churches and visited a Catholic priest, the Rev. J. Wilson, whom he had befriended. Rev. Paisley described this act of human friendship as an act of "blasphemy".

 

In April, 1958, Rev. Paisley sponsored Juan Arrien, a Spanish ex-priest, who performed exaggerated "mock masses" as part of an anti-Catholic road show. When Fr. Murphy of Ballymurphy protested that a public facility was to be used for this sectarian, anti-Catholic show, Rev. Paisley responded in his magazine, Revivalist, "We know your church to be the mother of harlots and the abomination of the earth."

 

On June 17, 1959, at a Belfast rally, he publicly chastised "the men of the Shankill for allowing papists, pope's men, and papishers" to live on the Shankill Rd. Angry crowds went to the addresses called out by Paisley, burned out the occupants and looted their homes.

 

As religious ecumenism was progressing between Churches and Religions during the 1960s, a Catholic priest actually preached in Westminster Abbey and Protestant ministers were welcomed in Catholic churches, Mr. Paisley was -- and still is -- wild with recrimination and bigotry at any intra-religious experience or sharing of ideas.

 

In keeping with the above attitude, he called Pope John XXIII a "Roman anti-Christ" and his Church the "Harlot of Babylon". On June 3, when the Pope died, Paisley roared, "This romish man of sin is now in hell."

 

In May of 1968, during the height of the Civil Rights movement in the North, Paisley addressed a mob of 500 loyalists and burned a photograph of Prime Minister O'Neil who was shown to be visiting a Catholic convent the week before.

 

After inciting loyalists to burn Catholic families out of their homes, the Rev. Paisley explained the problem to the press: His exact words were "Catholic homes caught fire because they were loaded with petrol bombs; Catholic churches were attacked and burned because they were arsenals and priests handed out sub-machine guns to parishioners; and the massive discrimination in employment and shortage of houses for Catholics were simply because they breed like "rabbits" and multiply like "vermin".

 

William Beattie, a loyal lieutenant of Rev. Paisley, addressed a DUP Youth Group after the Anglo-Irish Accord was signed by the Dublin and London governments in 1986: "We must hire assassins to kill Catholics and pay them when the job is done."

On Violence

 

Several founding members and early leaders of the Ulster Defense Association were close confidants and workers for Paisley. Between 1971 and 1976 alone, the UDA [ulster Defense Association] and its cover organizations murdered 600 Catholics. Freddie Parkinson, a leader of the UDA, stated in 1984, that Paisley was "a tarantula who spreads the venom of further conflict and has been a major contributor to our prolonged tragedy."

 

John McKeague, a disciple of Free Presbyterianism, founded the murderous Red Hand Commandos. Billy Mitchel, a gunman for the Ulster Volunteer Force murder squads, was a Sunday school teacher for the Free Presbyterian church. William McGrath, founder of a paramilitary group that called for the banning of the Catholic Church, was convicted in 1981 of sexual abuse of children.

 

Paisley's most trusted aide in London is Rev. Brian Green, a man with close links to the National Front, a Nazi organization.

 

Billy and Gusty Spence, founders of the UVF murder gang, and Ken Gibson, Tommy Heron and Davey Payne, leaders of the UDA, served as organizers at Paisley's rallies, In 1969, bombings around the North were falsely attributed to the IRA. Paisley's bodyguard, Sammy Stevenson turned Queen's evidence admitting he and Tommy McDowell, a Free Presbyterian, conspired to set off the bombs in loyalist districts in order to further incite the loyalist community.

On Freemasons

 

They got their strength from the excreta that runs from the sewer pipes of Hell." Once Paisley learned wealthy Freemasons in America were supporting his churches, he had a vision that Freemasons should be admitted to the Free Presbyterian church.

 

On Jews

 

"The Unionist party are boasting he [Harold Smith] is a Jew. As a Jew, he rejects our Lord Jesus Christ, the New Testament, Protestant principles, the Glorious Reformation and the sanctity of the Lord's day. The Protestant throne and the Protestant constitution are nothing to him."

 

On Journalists

 

"... the whirring multitudes of pestiferous scribbling rodents... who usually sport thick lensed glasses, wear six pairs of ropey sandals, are homosexuals, kiss holy medals or carry secret membership cards of the Communist party... spineless, brainless mongoloids. But, because of it, maliciously perilous as vipers."

 

On Censorship

 

The Democratic Unionist Party, the political wing of the Free Presbyterian Church, passed a resolution at its 1978 annual conference to condemn blasphemous literature like John Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men.

 

On Women

 

Valerie Shaw, secretary of a Free Presbyterian church, discovered sexual abuse of boys at Kincora School by Paisley confidant William McGrath. She tried to get Paisley to give the matter his spiritual attention for years. When he did not, she left the church. Since then, no woman can hold official office in the church leadership.

 

On the EEC

 

Paisley berated the European Economic Community as part of a "papal plot" and the "bride of the anti-Christ." He sought the seat to the European parliament because God told him to "sit amongst the frog eaters [French] and the snail mongers [belgians]."

 

On Being British

 

In a debate with Bernadette Devlin in June 1968, Paisley defended himself regarding a position Devlin thought was unfair by stating he "would rather be British than be fair."

 

Others on Ian Paisley

 

DUP barrister Robert McCartney stated that "Paisley is a fascist who is more interested in an independent Ulster, a mini-Geneva run by a fifth-rate Calvin, than Union with Britain."

 

Imprisoned UDA leader Freddie Parkinson, in appeal for non-violence by Paisley: "I remember the paramilitary megalomaniac who beckoned us to follow him but who later abandoned us to be scored as common criminals."

 

On the day of MP Robert Bradford's funeral, the Daily Telegraph [London] stated, "The posturing of Mr. Paisley continues to persuade the British people that Ulster is a strange and alien land which tends to inspire not terror but ridicule."

 

Perhaps people may wish to nominate him for the 2007 death list!

 

Its common knowledge what he is,but a double header with Charlie Haughey would appease both sides.

How is he lately,as was requested earlier?

[Godot 149]

I suspect that Paisley has entered that twilight world from which you rarely hear anything before the death notice. It is one for which the press still retains some respect for some reason. I think they should be poking their cameras and mikes through the letter box of chez Paisley in order to get an ETA on the the old bigot . I imagine he is sitting by the fire crying "Feck" every now and then like Father Jack.

 

Godot CFY

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

Just tossin' in a little hand grenade of a question here: Does Paisley's longevity make it more or less likely that there is a God?

[Magere Hein 1,400]

Just tossin' in a little hand grenade of a question here: Does Paisley's longevity make it more or less likely that there is a God?

I'd guess it's evidence for God's existence: it seems He doesn't want that tosser around yet.

 

regards,

Hein

[Guest iain]

Just tossin' in a little hand grenade of a question here: Does Paisley's longevity make it more or less likely that there is a God?

I'd guess it's evidence for God's existence: it seems He doesn't want that tosser around yet.

 

regards,

Hein

 

Ian Paisley is very much alive and well.He will be around for many years to come i confidently predict

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

Iain, any chance you'd put a number on your 'many' years to come. If he's still bog-eyed and breathing in November I'm gonna start lobbying on this very thread for yer man to join the top fifty next year. My massive intellect, deep knowledge and general ability to bullshit convinces me his fanaticism will have done damage to his heart and blood pressure.

[One shot Paddy 1,205]

Thundergub is 80 today!!

 

In tonight's Belfast Telegraph he says "I was not well for a couple of months. I certainly did lose weight, but as far as I'm concerned I'm now 100% fit."

[Rotten Ali 600]

The big man was on the news last night and his neck and shirt collar looked a bit lost in his suit / jacket neck line. Withstanding the quote that he is back to being 100% fit I don't think he is you know! I judge his voice was not as strong as it once was and the fire in his position was dimming. I'm guessing that the new time line of getting progress in govering talks prior to November 2006, works into the equation, the death of Ian Paisley in the interviening time. I had him on my DDP list last year but with the Rev. putting up a good performance in the 2005 general election I chose to down grade his state of health figures. If he does make it to the end of 2006 then I think he could be good value for a pick/hit ratio.

[One shot Paddy 1,205]

When he does go to meet his boss (God/Satan, take your pick) the power strugle within the DUP will be brutal!