dead Queen Elizabeth II

[Windsor 2,233]

13 hours ago, RoverAndOut said:

 

Picked up the Eye today, plenty of excellent analysis of the royal coverage. As for their account of The Queen's demise, no specific details aside from that she wasn't as well as was being portrayed, she was having more bad days than good days, medication was helping keep her sprightly when needed but then stopped working and her demise was more sudden than expected. Charles arrived in the nick of time, the rest were too late, she died around 3pm  but the news networks were embargoed until 6.30pm. But there was no real expectation of her dying in Balmoral, she fully expected to return to Windsor next month. Well worth a read if you can get a copy.

 

Anne had been there with her mother for the previous 24 yours, so presumably she was there at death too.

 

People often make up the details in Royal stories as they know the Palace won't bother to refute anything.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

13 hours ago, RoverAndOut said:

 

Picked up the Eye today, plenty of excellent analysis of the royal coverage. As for their account of The Queen's demise, no specific details aside from that she wasn't as well as was being portrayed, she was having more bad days than good days, medication was helping keep her sprightly when needed but then stopped working and her demise was more sudden than expected. Charles arrived in the nick of time, the rest were too late, she died around 3pm  but the news networks were embargoed until 6.30pm. But there was no real expectation of her dying in Balmoral, she fully expected to return to Windsor next month. Well worth a read if you can get a copy.

I agree with most of this. As Windsor correctly pointed out, Anne was there.

I've also heard conflicting stories about where she "wanted" to die. Definitely wasn't Sandringham or Buckingham Palace, but depending on who you ask, she either wanted to die at Windsor or Balmoral.

[The Old Crem 3,608]

16 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

I agree with most of this. As Windsor correctly pointed out, Anne was there.

I've also heard conflicting stories about where she "wanted" to die. Definitely wasn't Sandringham or Buckingham Palace, but depending on who you ask, she either wanted to die at Windsor or Balmoral.

More likely Windsor at most she spent three months of the year at Balmoral. 

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

3 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

More likely Windsor at most she spent three months of the year at Balmoral. 

But her fondest memories of summers spent with her family are from Balmoral...

I spend most of my days working in the financial district of London... doesn't mean I want to die there.

[The Old Crem 3,608]

13 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

But her fondest memories of summers spent with her family are from Balmoral...

I spend most of my days working in the financial district of London... doesn't mean I want to die there.

She might have felt Balmoral was a the place she desired to die at but she probably expected on the balance of probabilities she would die elsewhere due to spending the majority of the year elsewhere and the difficulties in travelling there if her health seriously declined and she was left bed bound or such like.  

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

13 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

She might have felt Balmoral was a the place she desired to die at but she probably expected on the balance of probabilities she would die elsewhere due to spending the majority of the year elsewhere and the difficulties in travelling there if her health seriously declined and she was left bed bound or such like.  

The conversation we're having is about where she wanted to die. Look at my post again.

[Windsor 2,233]

4 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

She might have felt Balmoral was a the place she desired to die at but she probably expected on the balance of probabilities she would die elsewhere due to spending the majority of the year elsewhere and the difficulties in travelling there if her health seriously declined and she was left bed bound or such like.  

She maybe wanted to piss off the nationalists on her way out by getting a special pre-funeral procession through the streets of Edinburgh, crowned with the honours of Scotland to-boot. 

[Toast 16,155]

26 minutes ago, Windsor said:

She maybe wanted to piss off the nationalists on her way out by getting a special pre-funeral procession through the streets of Edinburgh, crowned with the honours of Scotland to-boot. 

 

She played a blinder.

[Deadboy999 176]

Can we close this thread now, you all got what you wanted. Leave her be now.

[Windsor 2,233]

Just now, Deadboy999 said:

Can we close this thread now, you all got what you wanted. Leave her be now.

I didn’t. She wasn’t on my list. 

[Khthonia 101]

18 minutes ago, Deadboy999 said:

Can we close this thread now, you all got what you wanted. Leave her be now.

She might be flying high with the angels but her spirit remains in many people that aren't flying yet, no need to close a thread because she died. We aren't going to forget because she is now laid to rest, we will prefer to have a place to still talk about this loving woman. Whether you loved her or not the thread stays open until it dies its own death. 

[Tower1 93]

2 hours ago, Khthonia said:

She might be flying high with the angels but her spirit remains in many people that aren't flying yet, no need to close a thread because she died. We aren't going to forget because she is now laid to rest, we will prefer to have a place to still talk about this loving woman. Whether you loved her or not the thread stays open until it dies its own death. 

 

She was one of the most evil people on planet so she's more like rotting with demons in hell.

[Kenny 283]

On 21/09/2022 at 21:15, openviews said:

This is supposedly what the new stone looks like.

 

 

Reality

 

[Windsor 2,233]

2 hours ago, Tower1 said:

 

She was one of the most evil people on planet so she's more like rotting with demons in hell.

Surely if you were one of the most evil people on the planet you would be celebrated when you got to hell? 
 

I’ve never understood the logic in Satan/The Devil punishing evil doers on God’s behalf when presumably the said Devil thinks God is a bit of a Cunt.

 

So if she was the most evil person on the planet and if she is now in hell, I would imagine she has earned herself an upper management position at the very least…

[Toast 16,155]

4 hours ago, Tower1 said:

She was one of the most evil people on planet so she's more like rotting with demons in hell.

 

And waiting for you.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

Well this thread needs to get to 200 pages somehow, so here's the first part to a very pointless list, though hopefully some will find it interesting and reflective. A list of selected notable British subjects who were both born in and died during the timeframe of QEII's reign.

Part 1: 1952–1982


Tony Brise (1952–1975; 23) Formula One racing driver, died in a plane crash


Sid Vicious (1957–1979; 21) Bassist and co-vocalist of Sex Pistols; died of a heroin overdose


Olive Morris (1952–1979; 27) Activist in feminist, black nationalist and squatters' rights campaigns; died from lymphoma


Jimmy McCulloch (1953–1979; 26) Lead guitarist and bass in Wings and Thunderclap Newman; died from alcohol and morphine poisoning


Ian Curtis (1956–1980; 23) Lead singer of Joy Division; committed suicide


Johnny Owen (1956–1980; 24) Bantamweight champion boxer; died from injuries sustained in a match


Bobby Sands (1954–1981; 27) IRA member and MP (1981); died on a hunger strike


Ian McKay VC (1953–1982; 29) British Army soldier, posthumous recipient of the Victoria Cross; died in the Falklands War


James Honeyman-Scott (1956–1982; 25) Songwriter and guitarist for The Pretenders; died from cocaine-related heart failure

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

Part 2: 1983–1993


David Scarboro (1968–1988; 20) Actor, played Mark Fowler in EastEnders from 1985 to 1987; open verdict (either accidental fall or suicide)


Steve Mills (1953–1988; 34) Footballer (Southampton); died from leukaemia


Pete de Freitas (1961–1989; 27) Drummer for Echo & the Bunnymen; died in a motorcycle accident


Laurie Cunningham (1956–1989; 33) Footballer, first ever British player to sign for Real Madrid; died in a car accident


Michael Sundin (1961–1989; 28) Blue Peter presenter, actor and dancer; died from AIDS-related illness


Steve Clark (1960–1991; 30) Songwriter and guitarist for Def Leppard; died from an overdose of alcohol and barbiturates


Alan Davies (1961–1992; 30) Footballer (Newcastle Utd, Swansea City, Bradford City, Wales); committed suicide


Tommy Caton (1962–1993; 30) Footballer (Manchester Utd, Arsenal); died from a heart attack


Mel Rees (1967–1993; 26) Footballer (Cardiff City, West Bromwich Albion); died from bowel cancer

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[RoverAndOut 4,746]

On 24/09/2022 at 11:18, Windsor said:

Anne had been there with her mother for the previous 24 yours, so presumably she was there at death too.

 

On 24/09/2022 at 11:35, Ulitzer95 said:

I agree with most of this. As Windsor correctly pointed out, Anne was there.

 

Apologies, I didn't mention Anne as I thought it was common knowledge that she had phoned the family and told them to head up to Balmoral ASAP. So yes, Anne and Charles were the only ones present.

[YoungWillz 21,066]

Lady Mary Russell, Queen's maid of honour at the Coronation, reportedly died the day prior to Her Maj State funeral: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/9517447/queens-maid-of-honour-lady-mary-russell-dead/

 

She was 88.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

Part 3: 1994–2000


Frankie Kennedy (1955–1994; 38) Traditional Irish and folk flautist, co-founder of Altan; died of Ewing sarcoma


Davie Cooper (1956–1995; 39) Footballer (Rangers, Motherwell, Scotland); died from a cerebral haemorrhage


Jimmy McShane (1957–1995; 37) Singer (Baltimora); died from AIDS-related illness


Noel Brotherston (1956–1995; 38) Footballer (Blackburn Rovers, Northern Ireland); died from a heart attack


Norrie McCathie (1961–1996; 34) Footballer (Dunfermline Athletic); died from carbon monoxide poisoning


Eric Cullen (1965–1996; 31) Actor (Rab C. Nesbitt); died from a heart attack


Matthew Harding (1953–1996; 42) Businessman, vice-chairman of Chelsea F.C. and New Labour donor; died in a helicopter crash


Billy Mackenzie (1957–1997; 39) Singer-songwriter (The Associates); committed suicide


Diana, Princess of Wales (1961–1997; 36) Member of the British Royal Family; died in a car accident


Billy Wright (1960–1997; 37) Loyalist paramilitary leader during The Troubles; assassinated


Ian Moores (1954–1998; 43) Footballer (Stoke City, Leyton Orient, APOEL); died from lung cancer


Robbie James (1957–1998; 40) Footballer (Swansea City, QPR, Bradford City, Wales); died from a heart attack


Justin Fashanu (1961–1998; 37) Footballer (Norwich City, Nottingham Forest, Notts County, Torquay Utd); committed suicide


Sarah Kane (1971–1999; 28) Playwright and screenwriter; committed suicide


Jill Dando (1961–1999; 37) Journalist and television presenter; murdered


Helen Rollason MBE (1956–1999; 43) Sports journalist and television presenter; died from colon cancer


Lena Zavaroni (1963–1999; 35) Singer and television presenter; died from pneumonia


Martin Aldridge (1974–2000; 25) Footballer (Northampton Town, Oxford Utd, Blackpool); died in a car accident


David Pearce (1959–2000; 41) Heavyweight boxing champion; died from sudden adult death syndrome


Paula Yates (1959–2000; 41) Television presenter (The Tube, The Big Breakfast); died from a heroin overdose


Kirsty MacColl (1959–2000; 41) Singer-songwriter; hit by a powerboat whilst diving

[YoungWillz 21,066]

The surviving maids of honour are:

 

Lady Rosemary Muir (b. 1929)

Lady Jane Rayne-Lacey (b. 1932)

Lady Jane Heathcote-Drummond-Willoughby (b. 1934)

Lady Anne Tennant, Baroness Glenconner (b. 1932)

 

Just in case anyone fancies a punt.

[The Old Crem 3,608]

12 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

The surviving maids of honour are:

 

Lady Rosemary Muir (b. 1929)

Lady Jane Rayne-Lacey (b. 1932)

Lady Jane Heathcote-Drummond-Willoughby (b. 1934)

Lady Anne Tennant, Baroness Glenconner (b. 1932)

 

Just in case anyone fancies a punt.

All will likely get a death notice with Baroness Glenconner a certain to get a Q/O and the rest probably.

[YoungWillz 21,066]

4 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

All will likely get a death notice with Baroness Glenconner a certain to get a Q/O and the rest probably.

Lady Rosemary Muir a member of the Spencer-Churchill clan. Definite obit.

[openviews 334]

National Records of Scotland is accused of 'flouting the law' by trying to block legitimate attempts to obtain copy of the Queen's death certificate
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11258999/National-Records-Scotland-blocking-legitimate-attempts-copy-Queens-death-certificate.html