dead Queen Elizabeth II

[Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219]

5 minutes ago, openviews said:

National Records of Scotland is accused of 'flouting the law' by trying to block legitimate attempts to obtain copy of the Queen's death certificate
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11258999/National-Records-Scotland-blocking-legitimate-attempts-copy-Queens-death-certificate.html

I take it Sturgeon has run out of toilet paper.

[Windsor 2,233]

14 hours ago, openviews said:

National Records of Scotland is accused of 'flouting the law' by trying to block legitimate attempts to obtain copy of the Queen's death certificate
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11258999/National-Records-Scotland-blocking-legitimate-attempts-copy-Queens-death-certificate.html

It probably is flouting the law. 
 

The poke-nose bastard should mind her own business. 

[DCI Frank Burnside 3,887]

Extract of death certificate published

 

Died at 15:10

 

(So none of the ones who weren't in Scotland beforehand made it in time then IIRC)

 

Cause of death given as Old Age

[gcreptile 10,979]

11 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said:

Extract of death certificate published

 

Died at 15:10

 

(So none of the ones who weren't Scotland made it in time then IIRC)

 

Cause of death given as Old Age

So a couple of hours before the official announcement, but a little later than I expected.

 

Edit: But yes, going back through this thread, it means we were given a bit of a play to watch.

[The Old Crem 3,608]

12 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said:

Extract of death certificate published

 

Died at 15:10

 

(So none of the ones who weren't Scotland made it in time then IIRC)

 

Cause of death given as Old Age

I am surprised they didn’t announce the time of her death at the time if they knew it would be published - or did they forget Scottish death certificates have the time of death when English ones don’t. 
 

Also Anne registered the Death not Charles. Would have thought protocol would have been the new Sovereign did it.

 

Pretty much the same time of day as her Mother died.

[tomarse 84]

No real surprise they say that, they're never going to admit anything else.. still think she had some sort of stroke or died in sleep

[gcreptile 10,979]

On 08/09/2022 at 17:49, gcreptile said:

I think I'm also starting to believe that she's already dead.

Indeed.

[TQR 14,404]

EDIT: Deleted my pisstake of the Clive Dunn post by tomarse now he’s edited it away, and in so doing made mine look like a Dunn post briefly which was a very clever move if I’m honest.

[Talkative Finn 47]

I knew that theories of her having died at noon were impossible. When the Sovereign dies the Prime Minister has a need and right to know ASAP. And they had told earlier that she was informed at 15:30.

 

Edit. The PM was told only at 16:30! Had they really right to withhold that information so long? But then again, she had been told already by noon that the Queen would die within hours.

 

Second edit. It seems the PM was informed already "early on Thursday morning", well before she gave her energy plan statement at the parliament.

[gcreptile 10,979]

On 08/09/2022 at 15:01, Slackhurst Broadcasting said:

Jean-Luc Godard.

Not bad

[frleon 138]

Had a look at the scan of the certificate, it's a bit ominous how the most visible bit of the background ornament are these DEATH swirls repeating all across the page.

[Cian 22]

On 08/09/2022 at 13:10, Cian said:

Flightplan filed for 13:30 for one of the Falcon 900s to get to Aberdeen, presumably William. If she's hanging on / being kept alive for his arrival it could be over by 4.

So Wills etc didn't get there in time; but it was all over by 4 regardless!

[The Old Crem 3,608]

Also interesting her surname was just Windsor when her descendants use Mountbatten- Windsor. 

[RoverAndOut 4,746]

On 29/09/2022 at 14:20, The Old Crem said:

Also Anne registered the Death not Charles. Would have thought protocol would have been the new Sovereign did it.

 

Pretty much the same time of day as her Mother died.

 

Not really surprising Anne signed it. On the Friday it was signed (the Friday of the lying-in-state), Charles was on a helicopter going to Wales for his first official visit and Anne was in Scotland meeting patrons of charities the Queen was involved with. She was her daughter and present at the death, why does it need to be Charles?

 

15 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

Also interesting her surname was just Windsor when her descendants use Mountbatten- Windsor. 

 

Also not surprising. I know plenty of examples of parents who keep their maiden names and double-barrel their children. She is from the House of Windsor, she married a Mountbatten, so her children are Mountbatten-Windsors. In the same way Queen Victoria was the last monarch of the House of Hanover and her son was the first monarch of the House of Saxe-Coburg Gotha. Which the Windsors technically are too.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

Part 4: 2001–2003


John Diamond (1953–2001; 47) Journalist and husband of Nigella Lawson; died from throat cancer


David Rocastle (1967–2001; 33) Footballer (Arsenal, Chelsea, Leeds Utd); died from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma


Douglas Adams (1952–2001; 49) Author (The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy), screenwriter and humourist; died from a heart attack


Aaron Flahavan (1975–2001; 25) Footballer (Portsmouth); died in a car accident


Les Sealey (1957–2001; 43) Footballer (Luton Town, Coventry City, Manchester Utd); died from a heart attack


"Gentleman" Chris Adams (1955–2001; 46) Wrestler and trainer (Stone Cold Steve Austin, Scott Hall); shot


Barry Horne (1952–2001; 49) Animal rights activist, known for his extreme hunger strikes; died from liver failure


Anno Birkin (1980–2001; 20) Poet; died in a car accident


Charlotte Coleman (1968–2001; 33) Actress (Four Weddings and a Funeral, Worzel Gummidge); died from asthma complications


Stuart Adamson (1958–2001; 43) Rock guitarist and singer (Big Country); committed suicide

Jon Lee (1968–2002; 33) Rock drummer (Feeder); committed suicide


Nish Bruce (1956–2002; 45) British Army soldier (Falklands War) and memoirist; committed suicide


Doreen Waddell (1965–2002; 36) R&B singer (Soul II Soul); hit by oncoming traffic


Billy Ayre (1952–2002; 49) Footballer (Hartlepool Utd, Mansfield Town, Halifax Town) and manager; died from cancer


Davey Boy Smith (1962–2002; 39) Wrestler; died from a heart attack


Paul Samson (1953–2002; 49) Heavy metal musician (Samson); died from cancer


Katrin Cartlidge (1961–2002; 41) Actress (Brookside, Career Girls, Naked); died from complications of a rare cancer


Pattie Coldwell (1952–2002; 50) Television presenter (Open Air, Loose Women) and journalist; died from brain cancer


Joanne Campbell (1964–2002; 38) Actress (Me and My Girl); died from deep vein thrombosis


Joe Strummer (1952–2002; 50) Punk rock singer-songwriter (The Clash); died from a heart attack


Terry Lloyd (1952–2003; 50) Television journalist (ITN); killed by the U.S. military whilst covering the invasion of Iraq


James Miller (1968–2003; 34) Emmy Award-winning filmmaker; killed by Israeli forces whilst filming in the Gaza Strip


David Jefferies (1972–2003; 30) Motorcycle racer; died at a practice race for the Isle of Man TT


Trevor Goddard (1962–2003; 40) Actor (Mortal Kombat, JAG, Men of War); died from an overdose of heroin, cocaine and barbiturates


Paul Daisley (1957–2003; 45) Labour politician, MP (since 2001); died from colorectal cancer


Laura Sadler (1980–2003; 22) Actress (Grange Hill, Holby City); died after falling from a balcony whilst drinking


Steve Hislop (1962–2003; 41) Motorcycle racer; died in a helicopter crash


Jimmy Davis (1982–2003; 21) Footballer (Manchester Utd, Watford, Swindon Town); died in a car accident


Robert Addie (1960–2003; 43) Actor (Robin of Sherwood); died from lung cancer


Dickie Davis (1966–2003; 37) First class cricketer (Kent, Warwickshire, Gloucestershire); died from brain cancer

 

[Toast 16,155]

On 29/09/2022 at 14:20, The Old Crem said:

Also Anne registered the Death not Charles. Would have thought protocol would have been the new Sovereign did it.

 

No, there is no place for protocol here.  There are rules about who can register a death.

 

In Scotland, you can register a death if you:

• are related to someone who has died
• were there when the person died
• are an executor or solicitor of the person who has died
• lived with the person who died, if they died at home

If you're none of the above, but no one else can register the death, you can register the death as long as you:

• know the details of the person who has died
• have the right documents

 

So Charles could have done it, but it has nothing to do with his being the new sovereign.

[The Old Crem 3,608]

4 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

No, there is no place for protocol here.  There are rules about who can register a death.

 

In Scotland, you can register a death if you:

• are related to someone who has died
• were there when the person died
• are an executor or solicitor of the person who has died
• lived with the person who died, if they died at home

If you're none of the above, but no one else can register the death, you can register the death as long as you:

• know the details of the person who has died
• have the right documents

 

So Charles could have done it, but it has nothing to do with his being the new sovereign.

Considering how many protocols they are about things in the royal family I just thought they could have been one for this. 

[The Old Crem 3,608]

Sad news.
 

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[Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219]

1 hour ago, The Old Crem said:

Sad news.
 

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We now await The Engineer and another conspiracy theory, ya know, The Queen ain't dead.

Nope,  she just disappeared to live her remaining days in South America with Jim Morrison and anybody who was involved in the funeral is being bumped off coz they know too much.

[Toast 16,155]

 

On 29/09/2022 at 14:13, DCI Frank Burnside said:

Extract of death certificate published

Died at 15:10

(So none of the ones who weren't in Scotland beforehand made it in time then IIRC)

Cause of death given as Old Age

 

So the poster below was way out, then.  Especially as certified time of death is usually a bit later than the actual death.  Probably only a few minutes in this case.

 

On 08/09/2022 at 17:37, YouOnlyDieOnce said:

She passed away at 16:50 this afternoon. My cousin's wife is getting the final touches to the 6pm bulletin ready. Her colleague, Huw Edwards is in bits apparently.

Don't shoot the messenger, it's chaos in the BBC Cardiff office right now. Headless chickens everywhere.

[Slackhurst Broadcasting 374]

On 25/09/2022 at 01:27, Ulitzer95 said:

Well this thread needs to get to 200 pages somehow, so here's the first part to a very pointless list, though hopefully some will find it interesting and reflective. A list of selected notable British subjects who were both born in and died during the timeframe of QEII's reign.
 

It is oddly interesting: some people you'd forgotten about, some you didn't know were dead, some who seem to contain a whole era in their picture.

[Sly Ronnie 886]

On 08/09/2022 at 17:37, YouOnlyDieOnce said:

She passed away at 16:50 this afternoon. My cousin's wife is getting the final touches to the 6pm bulletin ready. Her colleague, Huw Edwards is in bits apparently.

 

Don't shoot the messenger, it's chaos in the BBC Cardiff office right now. Headless chickens everywhere.

 

Time of death wrong, time of bulletin wrong and the location of Mr Edwards, who was at Broadcasting House, surely. Also, how could your cousins wife tell that he was "in bits" when he was on screen for more than 5 hrs and announced the news of the Queen's death with such measured calm?

 

 

[Toast 16,155]

3 minutes ago, Sly Ronnie said:

 

Time of death wrong, time of bulletin wrong and the location of Mr Edwards, who was at Broadcasting House, surely. Also, how could your cousins wife tell that he was "in bits" when he was on screen for more than 5 hrs and announced the news of the Queen's death with such measured calm?

 

 

Probably not true about the headless chickens either.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

Part 5: 2004–2006


Cormac McAnallen (1980–2004; 24) Gaelic footballer (Tyrone); died from Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (SADS)


John McGeoch (1955–2004; 48) Rock guitarist and songwriter (Magazine, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Visage); died from epilepsy complications


Caron Keating (1962–2004; 41) Television presenter; died from breast cancer


Fritha Goodey (1972–2004; 31) Actress (About a Boy); committed suicide


Robert Heaton (1961–2004; 53) Rock drummer (New Model Army); died from complications of a fall


John Balance (1962–2004; 42) Singer-songwriter (Coil), poet and occultist; fell from a balcony whilst drinking


Martyn Bennett (1971–2005; 33) Celtic fusion musician and composer; died from cancer


Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 11th Earl of Shaftesbury (1977–2005; 27) Hereditary peer; died from a heart attack


Domino Harvey (1969–2005; 35) Bounty hunter; died from a barbiturates overdose


Harry Thompson (1960–2005; 45) Radio and television producer, comedy writer and novelist; died from lung cancer


Steve Whatley (1959–2005; 46) Theatre actor, television presenter (QVC) and journalist; committed suicide


Adrian Biddle (1952–2005; 53) Cinematographer (Thelma & Louise, Judge Dredd, The World is Not Enough); died from a heart attack


Gordon Duncan (1964–2005; 41) Bagpiper; died from complications of alcoholism


Rachel Squire (1954–2006; 51) Labour politician, MP (1992–2006); died from brain cancer


Mark Philo (1984–2006; 21) Footballer (Wycombe Wanderers); died in a car crash whilst intoxicated


Lynden David Hall (1974–2006; 31) Soul singer-songwriter; died from Hodgkin's lymphoma


Lou Gish (1967–2006; 38) Stage, film and television actress (EastEnders); died from cancer


Linda Smith (1958–2006; 48) Comedian and comedy writer; died from ovarian cancer


Jack Wild (1952–2006; 53) Actor (Oliver!); died from oral cancer


Nikki Sudden (1956–2006; 49) Singer-songwriter and guitarist (Swell Maps); died from a heart attack


David Sharp (1972–2006; 34) Mountaineer; died from hypothermia whilst climbing Mount Everest


Kevin Hughes (1952–2006; 53) Labour politician, MP (1992–2005); died from motor neurone disease


Bryan Budd VC (1977–2006; 29) British Army Corporal, recipient of the Victoria Cross; killed in action in Afghanistan


Paul Hunter (1978–2006; 27) Snooker player; died from a rare nervous system cancer


Alexander Litvinenko (1962–2006; 44) Russian defector; murdered by radiation poisoning


Craig Hinton (1964–2006; 42) Writer of Doctor Who spinoffs; died from a heart attack

[msc 18,480]

Ah Craig, what a lovely chap he was, an awful tragedy. No matter his own troubles, if he heard someone he knew had problems, he'd be right there with emails full of advice and jokes and other help.