Windsor 2,142 Posted January 6, 2010 Gordon Brown will survive this plot. Whats more - he will win the general election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 9,992 Posted January 6, 2010 Gordon Brown will survive this plot. Whats more - he will win the general election. Point one: Probably Point two: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josco 48 Posted January 6, 2010 Gordon Brown will survive this plot. Whats more - he will win the general election. Windsor, you may be right. The opposition doesn't inspire many people, the electorate are bored and we shall probably end up with a hung parliament. The real question is why the hell would he (or anyone else) ever want the job. The mess that he has created will take forever to clear up. The debt facing the country is staggering. If any one can't be bothered to read all of this the pertinent figures are on page 13: Total debt is around £4,090 billion which equates to 270% of GDP (worse than Zimbabwe) and is around £70,000 for every UK inhabitant. Bring back William Hague! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomb raider 9 Posted January 6, 2010 I think that the Hoon/Hewitt-initiative - however unusual it may be - will turn out to be a brilliant political move. If Brown wins the vote of confidence, it will finally make his leadership undisputed, it will make things clearer for the MP's ánd the electorate, and it will strenghten his position afterwards. If he loses, it will force Labour to come up with a new leader before the elections (and as that is almost undoable, there's just no way he can lose...). As I'm not British, I'm not sure about the possiblities of a hung parliament. Will they be forced to form a coalition with the LibDems or is a minority government thinkable? It's none of my concern, of course, but don't be too eager to ask for a Labour defeat. There's lessons to be drawn from the past... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monoclinic 39 Posted January 6, 2010 Gordon Brown will survive this plot. Whats more - he will win the general election. Windsor, you may be right. The opposition doesn't inspire many people, the electorate are bored and we shall probably end up with a hung parliament. The real question is why the hell would he (or anyone else) ever want the job. The mess that he has created will take forever to clear up. The debt facing the country is staggering. If any one can't be bothered to read all of this the pertinent figures are on page 13: Total debt is around £4,090 billion which equates to 270% of GDP (worse than Zimbabwe) and is around £70,000 for every UK inhabitant. Bring back William Hague! Can't we invent financial services EU subsidies, akin to keeping French farmers in jobs purely because it is their birth right regardless of whether their business is commercially viable? In the words of Alan Partridge (EU give us our) cashback! Let the Germans maintain our unhealthy birth right of unsecure credit. Cameron is weasily, I don't like him. If we do have to have a Tory government fuck us over further at least let us have a laugh in the process, get Boris in the post. I haven't said it in a while so in case you have forgotten my stance, all politicians are a crock of shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 5,642 Posted January 6, 2010 The mess that he has created will take forever to clear up. The mess HE created ?????? What mess? If you are referring to the global downturn/recession/watever, You cannot seriously blame one prime minister. (Personally, I blame the bankers) Or am I not picking your comments correctly? I'd rather stick with the devil I know in this case, and suggest he is most probably the best person to get us out the mess. *Dons tin hat and waits for the fallout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josco 48 Posted January 7, 2010 The mess that he has created will take forever to clear up. The mess HE created ?????? What mess? If you are referring to the global downturn/recession/watever, You cannot seriously blame one prime minister. (Personally, I blame the bankers) Or am I not picking your comments correctly? I'd rather stick with the devil I know in this case, and suggest he is most probably the best person to get us out the mess. *Dons tin hat and waits for the fallout If any fingers can be pointed regarding the cause of the banking crisis and the subsequent recession then they should point in Bill Clinton's direction, he it was who instructed American banks to lend to create more home-owners (a la Margaret Thatcher). However Gordon's reign as Chancellor has left our economy badly placed to weather the storm. Among his errors: Inflating enormous debt bubble Destroying pension schemes Massive PFI off-balance-sheet debts Massively increasing tax burden through fiscal drag Selling Gold reserves just before Gold tripled in value Creating the biggest trade deficit in 10 years (This list continues ad infinitum........) As to sticking with him..... His votes are most likely to come from those who are paid by him* hence his desire to create even more government and the costs associated with it. A Viv Nicholson "spend spend spend" policy. The alternatives that are available to us are equally poor. Cameron and Osbourne are utterly uninspiring. Clegg has said that in the event of a hung parliament he will support which ever party has the larger vote; Jesus that fence post must be a long way up his arse... A pox on the lot of them. *Currently 1 in 3 of the working population receive ALL their income from the government, in Newcastle that rises to 75% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave to the Grave 11 Posted January 7, 2010 If any fingers can be pointed regarding the cause of the banking crisis and the subsequent recession then they should point in Bill Clinton's direction, he it was who instructed American banks to lend to create more home-owners (a la Margaret Thatcher). However Gordon's reign as Chancellor has left our economy badly placed to weather the storm. And there was me thinking it was all to do with the desire of some countries to trade oil in euros rather than dollars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 18,967 Posted September 2, 2018 When things get tough for Labour, they dredge out Gordon Brown. After months of silence, he finally weighs in (at around 240+ pounds) on the anti-Semitism row: http://www.itv.com/news/2018-09-02/gordon-brown-expects-jeremy-corbyn-to-change-anti-semitism-definition-stance-in-fight-for-soul-of-the-party/ That should go down well with Middle England who rejected him in 2010.... Meantime, we have two threads for the beast of Kirkcaldy. Time for a merge if the gods of DeathList desire it: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 17,740 Posted September 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: That should go down well with Middle England who rejected him in 2010.... Who cares? From Glasgow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 18,967 Posted September 2, 2018 Remember Middle England is where this imperfect Union is won or lost... Depends who they hate most...blacks or Jews. E.g. How do people feel, when a PM renowned for chucking out Jamaicans over Windrush is suddenly sucking the appendages and kissing the phat cakes of the leaders of African nations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 17,740 Posted October 23, 2018 I didn't really pay much attention of late, but here's Gordon at a thing last week and blimey, he's getting on a bit now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,938 Posted October 23, 2018 My. Reminds me of the old joke. What's the difference between John Smith and Gala ? Gala deserved a by pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,938 Posted December 25, 2018 Bump for his selection in 2019... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMac 98 Posted December 25, 2018 On 23/10/2018 at 12:41, msc said: I didn't really pay much attention of late, but here's Gordon at a thing last week and blimey, he's getting on a bit now. Has anyone ever seen Gordon Brown and Dave Allen together? Did Dave Allen really croak? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bentrovato 990 Posted August 5, 2020 Maybe he will see this headline and finally do the honourable thing. "Gold price rises above $2,000 for first time". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53660052 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,164 Posted November 12, 2023 Looks awful at the Remembrance Service. Limping badly and at some points it looked like he was shaking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comped 358 Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: Looks awful at the Remembrance Service. Limping badly and at some points it looked like he was shaking. Looked worse than Major in photos I've seen from today, which is a shock! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,164 Posted November 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Comped said: Looked worse than Major in photos I've seen from today, which is a shock! For 80 John Major looks very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 2,671 Posted November 12, 2023 Major is one of those who used to look older than he was. So when he got older it's not as noticeable as say Blair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,095 Posted November 12, 2023 Wouldn't be surprised if Major survives Brown, Blair and May. Despite the stresses he faced in seven years as Prime Minister, he didn't appear to let it get to him as certain others. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 17,740 Posted November 12, 2023 Gordon's been looking sadly ghastly for a while. He's also got extremely limited sight in his remaining eye. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comped 358 Posted November 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, msc said: Gordon's been looking sadly ghastly for a while. He's also got extremely limited sight in his remaining eye. He doesn't actually have a glass eye, right? As for his remaining vision... Has to be worse since the two retinal years in 2009? As someone with eye issues myself, that raises alarm bells.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,095 Posted November 12, 2023 If I was a betting man, I'd expect them to go in the following order: Brown May Major Blair Johnson Cameron Sunak Truss I've met four of them so that's not totally speculative but it is mostly. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 2,671 Posted November 12, 2023 Any particular reason why some people think May might go before some of them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
