weatherman90 7 Posted January 14, 2005 Harry is now debating on a trip to Auschwitz for an "apology". Prince Hitler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest me Posted January 15, 2005 in order to finish with all that (somehow sensless) discussing about the 2nd World War in that context - here some closing words to this topic: Schmeling was not a Nazi. Schmeling was (and still is) an idol to young German boxers (and sportlers in general). Hence: not all Germans were Nazis during World War 2. Further more information on Max Schmeling (in German language): Max Schmeling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted January 17, 2005 Is Anny Ondra - i.e. Mrs Max Schmelling - still around? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted January 17, 2005 Is Anny Ondra - i.e. Mrs Max Schmelling - still around? According to the URL 'me' posted, she died 28 Februari 1987. regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mortician 2 Posted January 17, 2005 Now, as for Prince Harry... Harry was only following his Great Great Uncle's example of pandering to Adolf and to quote Blackadder: Darling: Four verses! Four verses! I meant four verses! Look, I'm as British as Queen Victoria. Edmund: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German? I suspect more of Harry's in-bred clan were fighting in the Wehrmacht than against it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Pestilence III 6 Posted January 17, 2005 I suspect more of Harry's in-bred clan were fighting in the Wehrmacht than against it! Royalty has always had ways and means of bringing in fresh blood. Anyone here believe that Harry isn't Hewitt's? Conversely, anyone believe that Harry is Charles'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest another german Posted January 23, 2005 echt, ich hasse diese spinner die alles deutsche mit dem nazireich in zusammenhang bringen. meiner meinung nach sind US bürger eh die besseren nazis. recht hast du mein freund, zumindestens haben sie ne kunst daraus gemacht die verbrechen anderer nationen zu benutzen um ihre eigenen zu vertuschen. ich wunder mich warum man heutzutage kaum noch von hiroshima&nagasaki oder vietnam spricht, aber die deutschen für den rest der welt immer noch nazis sind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuber Mirum 125 Posted January 23, 2005 The Germans take any reference to the Nazis very seriously, often with a knee-jerk reaction, and don't understand how other countries are able to make fun of the them. They still have a thing about it. All the rest of us started making jokes about them as soon as they found out that Hitler looked like Charlie Chaplin and had a silly moustache, and have never really stopped. In a way, Mr another german has a good point which would have come over more clearly if he had posted in English. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Searlo Posted January 24, 2005 I too used to think that Harry was Hewitt's but then someone pointed out how much he looks like a young Di's brother and I'm now not so sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honez 79 Posted January 25, 2005 Mr another german has a good point which would have come over more clearly if he had posted in English. I can't agree more. Another German can obviously understand English to be able to contribute such a good point in context. Posting in English would add credence in this (English language) forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest th@lug@ Posted February 4, 2005 max has passed away. they just said it on the radio. and he was not hitler's boxer! r.i.p. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest janKG Posted February 4, 2005 Max Schmeling is dead. Now could you please remove this silly job-description, that he was Hitler's Boxer. He definitely was NOT. Neither was he a Nazi or anything near it. In fact he always refused to join the Nazi party, and protected Jews from the Nazi regime. If you don't believe me, I recommend you to read the (unfortunately very short) article on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schmeling, especially the passage "Incorrectly branded as a Nazi". Have a nie day (or maybe not). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuber Mirum 125 Posted February 4, 2005 This is true, I have just checked in the German news. Has there been a British Obit yet? /edit The BBC sport page has it on the latest news ticker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_fan 42 Posted February 4, 2005 I just saw a report on the Internet that Max Schmeling has in fact died. It looks like we have got our first hit for 2005. German boxing legend Max Schmeling dies The report is also on the bbc website Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janKG 0 Posted February 4, 2005 Hello again. To sum up, the newest information about Max Schmeling's death: Schmeling died on Wednesday, February 2 2005 at 15:55. He fell into a coma 3 days before and didn't awake again. He incured a bad cold around Christmas and didn't recover. He was buried today next to his wife. The memorial service will be held around February, 22 in Hamburg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_fan 42 Posted February 4, 2005 This is true, I have just checked in the German news. Has there been a British Obit yet?/edit The BBC sport page has it on the latest news ticker. His orbituary is now on the bbc website Obituary: Max Schmeling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Man Jury Posted February 4, 2005 One nil! Well, Max has been boxed again - in a different sort of way, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VSBfromH 74 Posted February 4, 2005 He won't be schmeling very nice soon, then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Man Jury Posted February 4, 2005 Max Schmeling is dead. Now could you please remove this silly job-description, that he was Hitler's Boxer. He definitely was NOT. Neither was he a Nazi or anything near it. In fact he always refused to join the Nazi party, and protected Jews from the Nazi regime. If you don't believe me, I recommend you to read the (unfortunately very short) article on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schmeling, especially the passage "Incorrectly branded as a Nazi". Have a nie day (or maybe not). Yeah, well of course you must be right if you read it somewhere. If you and others living on Planet Muppet read that Elvis was still alive and had been sheltered by Max Schmeling in his jock strap since 1977, you'd probably believe that too. What you should remember is that there were no Nazis in Germany after 1945 after everyone still living there had re-written their CVs. Schmeling did very nicely for himself in post-war Germany or is that a coincidence? If Max had felt so strongly about it, why was he fighting in Hitler's Luftwaffe? Maybe, he'd never heard of the word surrender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kronos Posted February 4, 2005 lol.... you should have lived in this time and you wouldnt post such a bullshit. Max Schmeling wasn't a Nazi and it's a pity he died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted February 4, 2005 lol.... you should have lived in this time and you wouldnt post such a bullshit. Max Schmeling wasn't a Nazi and it's a pity he died. As has been pointed out before, Schmeling probably wasn't a Nazi, but he and his success were used by the Nazi's for propaganda purposes. Anyway, Germany lost a legendary sportsman and DL got its first hit. One may wonder which is worse. regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuber Mirum 125 Posted February 4, 2005 Speculation about whether Schmeling was a Nazi or not, must remain just that- speculation. Only he himself knew for sure what he was, and since he is dead, we can't ask him. Unless he told someone, but they could be lying too. Since the Deathlist is all about speculation (it's what we do best) we wouldn't be doing our job if we weren't speculating about Schmeling. Pete Doherty, or anyone else. We just have to beware of coming to any conclusions based only on speculative evidence. The flood of rants from angry Germans which we can now expect, will also contain no more factual evidence one way or the other than we can provide ourselves. So enjoy..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IYG Posted February 4, 2005 After reading the obituary and the story of him saving two Jewish children the question of wether or not he was a member of the Nazi party doesn't mean a thing, Oskar Schindler was a member of the Nazi party and look at all the good he did. People had no choice but to be a part of the party, before they could save others they needed to save themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuber Mirum 125 Posted February 4, 2005 Quite. He could have been a member of the Nazi Party, have saved Jewish children from death at the hands of other, bad Nazis, and also still have been Hitler's boxer (whatever that means anyway). Perhaps he collected milk-bottle tops too. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. Everyone is different. Those who lived in such difficult times, and particularly the great cannot easily be compartmentalised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Loco Posted February 4, 2005 What a needless and silly discussion here... He was definitely not a nazi... no need for speculation here, just have a look at the historical facts. It's okay for me to make jokes about germans, but people should try to be fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
