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Good point Whitehouse. I didn't understand your venom at first but now I do. Townie 1488, you're either an idiot or a Nazi or both. In any case you are beneath contempt.

 

You will believe in Mermaids, Pixies & pots of gold at the end of rainbows also, no doubt. Along with the Hoax of the 20th century.

 

Mermaids do exist. I know this because I have seen one.

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Well any asshole knows the Holocaust happened, unless your one of those modern skeptics who try to give the opposite edge on everything.

 

Now Anubis, join the crowd. I've been banned. Bitch to the Admin so they can reinstate me.

 

It was a mistake by one of the Mods.

 

Then does the idea of definitive historical evidence, thousands upon thousands of sources, confessions, eyewitnesses, photographs and more not suggest to you that The Holocaust happened? I pity you and your weak and gullible mind.

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Good point Whitehouse. I didn't understand your venom at first but now I do. Townie 1488, you're either an idiot or a Nazi or both. In any case you are beneath contempt.

 

You will believe in Mermaids, Pixies & pots of gold at the end of rainbows also, no doubt. Along with the Hoax of the 20th century.

 

Mermaids do exist. I know this because I have seen one.

 

I've seen two! One in Copenhagen and one by the Lorelei rock on the Rhine. I've come to the conclusion that Mermaids couldn't possible swim as they all seem to be made of brass.

 

Edit - sorry should read as bronze!

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Are you quite sure, Barmcake? You don't seem banned to me.

Now Anubis, join the crowd. I've been banned. Bitch to the Admin so they can reinstate me.

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O I'm back in circulation! Football Fan is a good man.

 

And I'm also on vacation. So in a few days I'll return to my usual wrap.

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Did you actually bother to follow that link Windsor?

 

Yes, I did. I just don't like it when people go that extra bit to make a moralistic point that bears no significance on their life whatsoever.

We all know what the Nazis did, and for the most part people recognise them as bad people.

You will remember my posts about Papon. We get the point - the Nazis did bad things but there is no need for the likes of what Whitehouse posted.

 

No doubt someone will come out with how he was merely treating her as the same respect as what she treated the dead jews.

 

I hate moralistic glory hunters.

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Tread carefully...I'd wager that you know nothing of the background of the original poster and over-arching generalisations are always dangerous.

 

 

 

Besides, as her own son said in that obit,

 

"My mother, whose courage, dedication and perseverance could not be denied, alas, always remained loyal to her national-socialist ideology," her son, Grimbert, wrote on his Web site. "Surrounded by a small group of followers, she continued to cling stubbornly to the idea that Hitler and his supporters were right. In that sense, she caused much pain to the Dutch people, Jews, and many others, as well as her own family."

 

 

 

So it's probably fairly safe to say she was a sh*t.

 

 

 

Incidentally, Grimbert is a spectacular name.

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Perhaps her son is trying to save a few of his windows from being panned in by a bunch morally just W**nkers.

As for Whitehouse, I'm sure he would have given the details of any personal reasons for calling her a sh*t. It's what those people do to extract more sympathy.

 

She may not have been a very nice woman, but that does not merit posting a picture of her grave followed by that statement. Get over it.

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I sincerely hope by 'those people' you do not mean holocaust survivors or their families.

those people do to extract more sympathy.

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I sincerely hope by 'those people' you do not mean holocaust survivors or their families.
those people[/b] do to extract more sympathy.

 

To an extent - or to be more accurate, those that go on and on about the plight of 'their people' on internet forums.

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Could I suggest that you leave this subject well alone for the moment, Windsor, and come back to re-read it in a few years when you're perhaps a little older and wiser? I can only think that living where you do, you have not come into contact with many of 'those people' who may have lost family in or even survived one of the most horrendous periods of inhumanity ever.

 

 

 

No apologies for being a condescending bastard. You deserve it.

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Could I suggest that you leave this subject well alone for the moment, Windsor, and come back to re-read it in a few years when you're perhaps a little older and wiser? I can only think that living where you do, you have not come into contact with many of 'those people' who may have lost family in or even survived one of the most horrendous periods of inhumanity ever.

 

No apologies for being a condescending bastard. You deserve it.

 

I'm fully aware of what the holocaust was and true I have not met any holocaust survivors.

In my eyes the 'those people' are not confined to the Jews of Europe around the Second World War.

 

My views have nothing to do with lack of wisdom.

 

I have said not a bad word against the victims of the holocaust. Instead you have twisted it to seem so. My problem is with the people who feel our need to rub our faces in it to extract a sympathy. Last week saw the bicentenary of the end of the slave trade. Some aspects of expecting an apology and even reparations to slave descendents also angers me. As far as I can see they are only using the plight of their ancestors to make a quick buck.

 

The fact of the matter is the holocaust happened at the hands of some undesirables who happen to now be dying off themselves. What Whitehouse did was play on the plight of other in a way to boost his own morality. It was also very disrespectful.

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I went to Auschwitz-Birkenau a couple of years back. I would recommend to anyone that they go. What you learn at school or through the media doesn't bring home the enormity of what went on.

 

There are downsides such as tourists taking photos of the wall of death with them in the photograph. The impact comes in the display cases, enormous piles of spectacles, hair etc. Then there is Birkenau. Razed to the ground it is just a vast open space where they have reconstructed just the first row of huts, and of course the train tracks remain.

 

Whilst I am on the subject of photography, although a room 101 topic, I absolutely despise photographs of places with people cheesy grins, nine times out of ten is ruins the photograph, taking the focus off of the natural beauty, the amazing architecture etc. Anyone with me here?

 

And another thing I find crass... Why on earth are we commemorating the start of the Falklands war? Surely we should be focussing on when peace was regained? I also read somewhere that families of fallen Argentines will be allowed to commemorate at the graveyards in the Falklands sometime towards the end of 2007. Surely there should be joint ceremonies as a symbol of peace, and that they be allowed to remember their dead at a more relevant time.

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I went to Auschwitz-Birkenau a couple of years back. I would recommend to anyone that they go. What you learn at school or through the media doesn't bring home the enormity of what went on.

 

There are downsides such as tourists taking photos of the wall of death with them in the photograph. The impact comes in the display cases, enormous piles of spectacles, hair etc. Then there is Birkenau. Razed to the ground it is just a vast open space where they have reconstructed just the first row of huts, and of course the train tracks remain.

 

Whilst I am on the subject of photography, although a room 101 topic, I absolutely despise photographs of places with people cheesy grins, nine times out of ten is ruins the photograph, taking the focus off of the natural beauty, the amazing architecture etc. Anyone with me here?

 

And another thing I find crass... Why on earth are we commemorating the start of the Falklands war? Surely we should be focussing on when peace was regained? I also read somewhere that families of fallen Argentines will be allowed to commemorate at the graveyards in the Falklands sometime towards the end of 2007. Surely there should be joint ceremonies as a symbol of peace, and that they be allowed to remember their dead at a more relevant time.

 

Isn't it true that no birds will fly in the airspace above Auschwitz?

 

We're commemorating it to deflect attention away from the hiding we're taking in Afghanistan and to a lesser extent in Iraq. Maybe that's the reason?

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Tosiwo Nakayama, the first president of the Federated States of Micronesia, has died. He was 75.

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Tosiwo Nakayama, the first president of the Federated States of Micronesia, has died. He was 75.

 

Quote:

Nakayama is survived by his children and grandchildren.

 

That must be the most useless statement ever. It should at least say how may of each survived him. Then it may have a purpose.

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Asia's richest woman, Nina Wang, has just died at the age of 69. Quite an interesting lady by the looks of the linked article.

 

Also, the crime novelist Micheal Dibden has penned his last tome.

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Also, the crime novelist Micheal Dibden has penned his last tome.

 

It's "Michael Dibdin", actually. Just thought I'd point that out so that someone searching will see this post and not duplicate!

 

I see ones of his novels is entitled "And Then You Die" ...

 

... he's "dibdin" his chips, zen! :blink:

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American Football coach Eddie Robinson has died at the age of 88.

 

I hate the word, but he's been described as the "winningest" coach in history.

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American Football coach Eddie Robinson has died at the age of 88.

I hate the word, but he's been described as the "winningest" coach in history.

 

Surely "most successful" would be better, Phantom?

A unique DDP choice, I wonder if he'll get an obit from the UK?

 

Probably will actually as;

1) The Guardian 2) There's been very few famous deaths lately.

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American Football coach Eddie Robinson has died at the age of 88.

I hate the word, but he's been described as the "winningest" coach in history.

 

Surely "most successful" would be better, Phantom?

A unique DDP choice, I wonder if he'll get an obit from the UK?

 

Probably will actually as;

1) The Guardian 2) There's been very few famous deaths lately.

 

Yeah, "most successful" would be a better expression. The phrase "winningest" was coined sometime between 1970 and 1975 to describe Eddie Robinson.

But you know the Americans, they'll always drag up some contrived word. You only have to look at the list of names of children at the local nursery / kindergarten to see how they've butchered the English language.

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But you know the Americans, they'll always drag up some contrived word. You only have to look at the list of names of children at the local nursery / kindergarten to see how they've butchered the English language.

 

I named my sons Robert Leander and David Royce. I must be the most boring mother in the US.

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But you know the Americans, they'll always drag up some contrived word. You only have to look at the list of names of children at the local nursery / kindergarten to see how they've butchered the English language.

 

I named my sons Robert Leander and David Royce. I must be the most boring mother in the US.

 

One of my wife's co-workers named her son AlexZander.

And no it's not a typo. the A and the Z are intended to be in uppercase

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But you know the Americans, they'll always drag up some contrived word. You only have to look at the list of names of children at the local nursery / kindergarten to see how they've butchered the English language.

 

I named my sons Robert Leander and David Royce. I must be the most boring mother in the US.

 

One of my wife's co-workers named her son AlexZander.

And no it's not a typo. the A and the Z are intended to be in uppercase

 

And I thought my capital A was a little strange......

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But you know the Americans, they'll always drag up some contrived word. You only have to look at the list of names of children at the local nursery / kindergarten to see how they've butchered the English language.

 

I named my sons Robert Leander and David Royce. I must be the most boring mother in the US.

 

One of my wife's co-workers named her son AlexZander.

And no it's not a typo. the A and the Z are intended to be in uppercase

 

And I thought my capital A was a little strange......

 

Perhaps Phantom's wife's co-worker visited the forums and thought to herself, 'I'm having that'.

 

Looks like CarolAnn is a trend-setter.

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