maryportfuncity 10,642 Posted July 5, 2016 As you know I don't frequent here very often anymore but as I saw this thread pop up on Google after Guelfi's death and subsequent comments, I thought it only fair to post an update. Firstly, a few others: Helen Stewart, wife of Sir Jackie, has dementia - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/sir-jackie-stewart-reveals-wife-is-vanishing-from-dementia/ Tony Adamowicz, as you know has brain cancer. The latest is that he is doing better than almost everyone thought, but he's largely bed-bound and hasn't been on social media recently. Murray Walker - last I saw him, he looked great. But he missed the Goodwood Festival of Speed this year for the first time. Journalist Nigel Roebuck has just recovered from a heart-attack. Smoked like a chimney before. As for the elderly drivers etc, an update - the top 20 oldest below, plus selected others over 80 for your perusal: EDIT - As always I have no idea how to make the below a freaking table. Which is probably why I don't come here very often! 1 McAlpine Kenneth GB 21-Sep-20 Obitable in broadsheet I think. Frail but still very with it mentally. Oliver Mike GB 13-Feb-21 Ex RAF pilot, founded Connaught. Might sneak broadsheet obit 2 Marr Leslie GB 14-Aug-22 Artist, should get obit for that and his nobility. Was doing well Weyant Chuck USA 03-Apr-23 Oldest Indy driver. US obit definite. Still doing well. Tauranac Ron AUS 13-Jan-25 Legendary Brabham designer. Doing okay. 3 da Silva Ramos Hermano F/BR 07-Dec-25 Only other GP driver over 90. Obit doubtful. 4 Rhodes John GB 18-Aug-27 Obit possible, but unlikely. In failing health since 2010. McElreath Jim USA 18-Feb-28 Indy legend. US obit definite. In failing health 5 Herrmann Hans D 23-Feb-28 Obit definite. Generally okay but now largely in wheelchair. Colani Luigi CH 02-Aug-28 Designer and artist. One-off GP car designer. Obit possible Broadley Eric GB 22-Sep-28 Lola founder. Obit definite. No health news 6 Milhoux Andre B 09-Dec-28 No chance of obit. Doing okay 7 Stewart Ian GB 15-Jul-29 In poor, but stable health. Still mentally active. Obit? Unlikely 8 Barber John GB 22-Jul-29 Doubtful he is alive, but nothing to prove death.. 9 Moss Sir Stirling GB 17-Sep-29 Struggling. Doubt he will make 90. Looks worse each year. 10 Campbell-Jones John GB 21-Jan-30 Doing ok but frailer each time I see him. Obit unlikely Haas Carl USA 26-Feb-30 Has dementia. US obit definitely, UK possible Ecclestone Bernie GB 28-Oct-30 Still doing fine. Obit definite. 11 Piper David GB 02-Dec-30 Obit definite. Overweight and smokes heavily, but active 12 Gurney Dan USA 13-Apr-31 Definitely frailer, but he is still going to work every day Johnson Junior USA 28-Jun-31 NASCAR legend. Us obit definitely. Ok but overweight 13 Brooks Tony GB 25-Feb-32 Sadly, he's really frail. Mind sharp as tack but no more public visits 14 Gamble Fred USA 17-Mar-32 Obit - no chance 15 Parnell Tim GB 25-Jun-32 Definitely won't make 90. Looked really frail when seen in 2014. 16 Soler-Roig Alex E 29-Oct-32 No health news, no chance of obit 17 Starrabba Gaetano I 03-Dec-32 Ditto Soler-Roig 18 Vaccarella Nino I 04-Mar-33 Italian racing legend, obit possible. Seems okay. 19 Bondurant Bob USA 27-Apr-33 Obit possible. Less active than before but seems okay Jones Parnelli USA 12-Aug-33 US legend, obit in US definite. Doing fine. 20 Cabral Mario Araujo de P 15-Jan-34 In poor health. Very unlikely indeed to get obit Surtees John GB 11-Feb-34 Still driving at events, suspect he's okay for a few years Foyt AJ USA 16-Jan-35 Grossly overweight but still active. Awesome to see OoO back in action. Bloody tragic news about Bernie Ecclestone in that list, mind - is he a vampire or summat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,957 Posted July 5, 2016 Good to see you pop in OoO, solid list as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unknown Man 584 Posted July 5, 2016 As you know I don't frequent here very often anymore but as I saw this thread pop up on Google after Guelfi's death and subsequent comments, I thought it only fair to post an update. Firstly, a few others: Helen Stewart, wife of Sir Jackie, has dementia - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/sir-jackie-stewart-reveals-wife-is-vanishing-from-dementia/ Tony Adamowicz, as you know has brain cancer. The latest is that he is doing better than almost everyone thought, but he's largely bed-bound and hasn't been on social media recently. Murray Walker - last I saw him, he looked great. But he missed the Goodwood Festival of Speed this year for the first time. Journalist Nigel Roebuck has just recovered from a heart-attack. Smoked like a chimney before. As for the elderly drivers etc, an update - the top 20 oldest below, plus selected others over 80 for your perusal: EDIT - As always I have no idea how to make the below a freaking table. Which is probably why I don't come here very often! 1 McAlpine Kenneth GB 21-Sep-20 Obitable in broadsheet I think. Frail but still very with it mentally. Oliver Mike GB 13-Feb-21 Ex RAF pilot, founded Connaught. Might sneak broadsheet obit 2 Marr Leslie GB 14-Aug-22 Artist, should get obit for that and his nobility. Was doing well Weyant Chuck USA 03-Apr-23 Oldest Indy driver. US obit definite. Still doing well. Tauranac Ron AUS 13-Jan-25 Legendary Brabham designer. Doing okay. 3 da Silva Ramos Hermano F/BR 07-Dec-25 Only other GP driver over 90. Obit doubtful. 4 Rhodes John GB 18-Aug-27 Obit possible, but unlikely. In failing health since 2010. McElreath Jim USA 18-Feb-28 Indy legend. US obit definite. In failing health 5 Herrmann Hans D 23-Feb-28 Obit definite. Generally okay but now largely in wheelchair. Colani Luigi CH 02-Aug-28 Designer and artist. One-off GP car designer. Obit possible Broadley Eric GB 22-Sep-28 Lola founder. Obit definite. No health news 6 Milhoux Andre B 09-Dec-28 No chance of obit. Doing okay 7 Stewart Ian GB 15-Jul-29 In poor, but stable health. Still mentally active. Obit? Unlikely 8 Barber John GB 22-Jul-29 Doubtful he is alive, but nothing to prove death.. 9 Moss Sir Stirling GB 17-Sep-29 Struggling. Doubt he will make 90. Looks worse each year. 10 Campbell-Jones John GB 21-Jan-30 Doing ok but frailer each time I see him. Obit unlikely Haas Carl USA 26-Feb-30 Has dementia. US obit definitely, UK possible Ecclestone Bernie GB 28-Oct-30 Still doing fine. Obit definite. 11 Piper David GB 02-Dec-30 Obit definite. Overweight and smokes heavily, but active 12 Gurney Dan USA 13-Apr-31 Definitely frailer, but he is still going to work every day Johnson Junior USA 28-Jun-31 NASCAR legend. Us obit definitely. Ok but overweight 13 Brooks Tony GB 25-Feb-32 Sadly, he's really frail. Mind sharp as tack but no more public visits 14 Gamble Fred USA 17-Mar-32 Obit - no chance 15 Parnell Tim GB 25-Jun-32 Definitely won't make 90. Looked really frail when seen in 2014. 16 Soler-Roig Alex E 29-Oct-32 No health news, no chance of obit 17 Starrabba Gaetano I 03-Dec-32 Ditto Soler-Roig 18 Vaccarella Nino I 04-Mar-33 Italian racing legend, obit possible. Seems okay. 19 Bondurant Bob USA 27-Apr-33 Obit possible. Less active than before but seems okay Jones Parnelli USA 12-Aug-33 US legend, obit in US definite. Doing fine. 20 Cabral Mario Araujo de P 15-Jan-34 In poor health. Very unlikely indeed to get obit Surtees John GB 11-Feb-34 Still driving at events, suspect he's okay for a few years Foyt AJ USA 16-Jan-35 Grossly overweight but still active. Nice to see you back, OoO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,028 Posted July 6, 2016 Keeping your flame alive OoO! You were gone before I arrived, but I try to quote your farewell list where I can. I'll update the original list with current comments. As for new additions, maybe you could update your new list as and when. If not, happy to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,028 Posted July 7, 2016 As you know I don't frequent here very often anymore but as I saw this thread pop up on Google after Guelfi's death and subsequent comments, I thought it only fair to post an update. *snip* Haas Carl USA 26-Feb-30 Has dementia. US obit definitely, UK possible *snip* Apparently, Carl Haas died on 29 June: http://www.haasauto.com/pages.php?pageid=7 Also on OoO's farewell list. Edit: Daily Mail Obit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3679770/Motor-racing-Iconic-team-owner-Carl-Haas-dies-86.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,186 Posted July 7, 2016 Cheers all. I'll see what I can do but I plan an update once every 2 years or summat. It has reminded me to update the World Cup lists though that I did here so I'll do that now. Check back in 2019 for more juicy racing tips 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,642 Posted July 8, 2016 Cheers all. I'll see what I can do but I plan an update once every 2 years or summat. It has reminded me to update the World Cup lists though that I did here so I'll do that now. Check back in 2019 for more juicy racing tips Cheers OoO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,964 Posted July 18, 2016 South African rally driver Gugu Zulu dies while climing the Kilimanjaro for a Nelson Mandela charity event: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36823937 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted July 19, 2016 South African rally driver Gugu Zulu dies while climing the Kilimanjaro for a Nelson Mandela charity event: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36823937 That'll be the last fahkin time a Zulu does anything for charity. SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YorkshireBanker 168 Posted July 26, 2016 Any updates on Tony Adomowicz. Can't say I am much of racing fan but he was 5 shades of funny as a guest star in my all time favorite episodes of Horsin Around "Sabrina Goes Off Track" . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Kettley 49 Posted August 3, 2016 Tony Adamowicz has advanced brain cancer Jaime Alguersuari unable to drive due to mystery illness. Not good for drivers beginning with A Chris Amon is healthy and pensionable, living in New Zealand Amon dulled Apologies for awful krautrock pun. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switch 141 Posted August 3, 2016 Tony Adamowicz has advanced brain cancer Jaime Alguersuari unable to drive due to mystery illness. Not good for drivers beginning with A Chris Amon is healthy and pensionable, living in New Zealand Amon dulled Apologies for awful krautrock pun. Mario Andretti once said of him: "If he became an undertaker, people would give up dying." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,642 Posted August 3, 2016 Tony Adamowicz has advanced brain cancer Jaime Alguersuari unable to drive due to mystery illness. Not good for drivers beginning with A Chris Amon is healthy and pensionable, living in New Zealand Amon dulled Apologies for awful krautrock pun. Mario Andretti once said of him: "If he became an undertaker, people would give up dying." Yeah, the obits will be interesting. Everyone said he was unlucky - as in almost unbelievably so given the clear talent he had. Amon - apparently - disagreed and counted himself lucky for being able to race a decade in a lethal era of F1 without ever being seriously injured. The only proper biography of him isn't exactly deep and revealing so you suspect the obits might be more factual than personal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whitehouse 872 Posted August 7, 2016 Dirt - track specialist Brian Clauson airlifted to hospital. Pulled out of his wreck in a critical condition and unconcious. http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/racing-driver-bryan-clauson-airlifted-to-hospital-after-1784935780 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,028 Posted August 7, 2016 Death of "Gentleman" Jack Sears, BSCC (now BTCC) inaugural champion aged 86. http://www.itv.com/btcc/first-champion-jack-sears-dies-aged-86 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sears Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,642 Posted August 8, 2016 A fairly accurate assessment of the gulf between Chris Amon's talent and statistical achievements in this Guardian obit: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/03/chris-amon-obituary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,028 Posted August 8, 2016 Dirt - track specialist Brian Clauson airlifted to hospital. Pulled out of his wreck in a critical condition and unconcious. http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/racing-driver-bryan-clauson-airlifted-to-hospital-after-1784935780 Dead: http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/bryan-clauson-dies-due-to-injuries-sustained-in-dirt-racing-crash-080816 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,642 Posted August 8, 2016 Dirt - track specialist Brian Clauson airlifted to hospital. Pulled out of his wreck in a critical condition and unconcious. http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/racing-driver-bryan-clauson-airlifted-to-hospital-after-1784935780 Dead: http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/bryan-clauson-dies-due-to-injuries-sustained-in-dirt-racing-crash-080816 So t-bone and mash, then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whitehouse 872 Posted August 8, 2016 Read this morning a motorbike driver died as a result of crashing during a training session at the Assen TT circuit. He had minor injuries but died a week later from a lung embolism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,964 Posted August 15, 2016 Maybe someone for OoO's list: Frankie Schneider, NASCAR "legend" (?) turns 90, has cancer that has spread to his bones but is currently in remission: http://www.nj.com/hunterdon/index.ssf/2016/07/nascar_legend_frankie_schneider_turns_90.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Schneider Probably just outside of obitability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,186 Posted August 24, 2016 https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14054379_1059773814075840_5145982846041373610_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9 Hope the link works. Some legendary ex-racers here but the man in the wheelchair is Dan Gurney. Unfortunately he looks terrible. Tony Brooks, A fellow Grand Prix winner, is also very frail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,642 Posted August 24, 2016 https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14054379_1059773814075840_5145982846041373610_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9 Hope the link works. Some legendary ex-racers here but the man in the wheelchair is Dan Gurney. Unfortunately he looks terrible. Tony Brooks, A fellow Grand Prix winner, is also very frail. A few shades of colour around Gurney's ankles - his heart has seen better days, then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switch 141 Posted August 25, 2016 https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14054379_1059773814075840_5145982846041373610_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9 Hope the link works. Some legendary ex-racers here but the man in the wheelchair is Dan Gurney. Unfortunately he looks terrible. Tony Brooks, A fellow Grand Prix winner, is also very frail. "Word reaches us that Dan Gurney, the 85-year-old motor racing legend, is not in the best of health at the moment." Posted in the official homepage of the McLaren Formula One team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted August 25, 2016 https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14054379_1059773814075840_5145982846041373610_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9 Hope the link works. Some legendary ex-racers here but the man in the wheelchair is Dan Gurney. Unfortunately he looks terrible. Tony Brooks, A fellow Grand Prix winner, is also very frail. "Word reaches us that Dan Gurney, the 85-year-old motor racing legend, is not in the best of health at the moment." Posted in the official homepage of the McLaren Formula One team One gurney is about to meet another. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,642 Posted August 29, 2016 Despite amazing safety standards that saw Kevin Magnusson survive an accident that would have been fatal to most preceding generations of F1 drivers the oldest driver in the business has gone public in suggesting the youngest competitor offers hope to all dead poolers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/37210411 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites