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There's been a lot of press coverage recently about the three DL jailbirds - Susan Atkins, Ronnie Biggs and Abdelbaset Al-megrahi. Two of them are now free and Atkins is up for another parole hearing on Sept 2nd, although she will be up against the American justice system, who generally take a harder line when it comes to matters of compassion and mercy. There is a reasonable chance that they will all be dead by the end of the year.

I suggest that the 2010 DL should have another prisoner on the list, there's plenty of choice of ailing criminals, and their lawyers generally drip feed us with information about their clients' declining health.

I've thought of a few who might make the grade:

Ian Brady -Constant hunger strikes and forty plus years of custody will take their toll before too long.

William Heirens - Not exactly a household name in the UK, but he is America's and possibly the world's longest serving inmate. He hasn't been a free man since 1946.

Donald Neilson - The Black Panther. In jail since 1975, now believed to be suffering from motor neurone disease.

Ian Huntley - Would be a bit of a result if he actually died in 2010, but he is due to be "integrated" with the general prison population shortly. I'm sure some of his fellow inmates will have received enough incitement from The Sun to do him in.

If anyone else can think of a deserving candidate, please post here.

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How's about the humble tin of pineapple chunks?

 

Having nothing valuable to contribute I'll mention lifer Rose West, maybe the most famous person since Tess of the d'Urbervilles to sejourn (albeit briefly) in the salubrious Winchester Prison, conveniently located opposite the hospital. I remember her trial. People used to nip out from college to try to get interviewed by the press. I've a vague recollection some of my friends may have even tried to get into the public gallery.

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Peter Sutcliffe? Yorkshire ripper. bit of a punch bag in Broadmoor. Lost the sight of one eye and other badly damaged. Attacked a number of times.

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There is also Peter Tobin, currently serving life sentences for the murders of Angelika Kluk and Vicky Hamilton. He went on trial again in June for the murder of Dinah McNicol, the trial was stopped as he took ill and needed surgery. He has a habit of being taken into hospital during his trials, so I'm not sure how ill he actually is.

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I suppose we could go on about people on death row, but I dont think thats what DDT had in mind, was it?

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I suppose we could go on about people on death row, but I dont think thats what DDT had in mind, was it?

 

I actually started an (unused) thread on Ali Al-Majid a couple months back.

 

http://www.deathlist.net/forums/index.php?...amp;hl=Al-Majid

 

I still believe he's someone who could die at any moment (maily because the sudden death of Saddam Hussein)

 

How are his chances?

 

 

His chances of being on the list are 0.

No executions.

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Yes, definitely people who are going to die of natural causes, not execution.

 

Also, straying slightly off topic, does anyone know what happened to Derek Bentley's partner in crime Christopher Craig, who only escaped the death penalty in 1952 by virtue of his youth?

 

One more thing, not terribly famous murderer James Willis, 91, from Georgia was first jailed in 1936 and has spent 67 of the last 73 years in prison.

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Can't imagine 78 year old convicted nonce Gordon Wateridge having a long or healthy life from this point. Not banged up yet, but.....

 

He was released on bail pending sentencing in September, but Judge Christopher Pitchers warned him he had betrayed a position of trust and there was an overwhelming possibility that he would be given a custodial sentence.

 

Then again, he's got to survive to September just to be sentenced. If he returns to Jersey I'll bet EVERYONE knows where he lives.

 

 

 

Re Christopher Craig, he was released in 1963 since when he's lived and worked in London. He keeps a very low profile though he did speak to the press and declare himself happy at Bentley's pardoning in 1998. Craig is still alive.

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I would offer up....Omar Abdel-Rahman (first WTC bomber and in declining health). There are also various War Criminals claiming to be too ill to stand trial.

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Top Israeli entertainer Dudu Topaz couldn't hack it.

 

"Israeli entertainer Dudu Topaz - whose turbulent struggle to deal with his waning stardom enthralled the country – has died after apparently hanging himself in the shower of his jail cell, prison officials said. He was 62.

 

Topaz, one of Israel's most famous television stars, had been in jail for several months since the start of his trial for allegedly hiring thugs to assault top Israeli media executives he blamed for keeping him off the air."

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Top Israeli entertainer Dudu Topaz couldn't hack it.

 

"Israeli entertainer Dudu Topaz - whose turbulent struggle to deal with his waning stardom enthralled the country – has died after apparently hanging himself in the shower of his jail cell, prison officials said. He was 62.

 

Topaz, one of Israel's most famous television stars, had been in jail for several months since the start of his trial for allegedly hiring thugs to assault top Israeli media executives he blamed for keeping him off the air."

 

 

Looks like DDT made this thread just in the nick of time.

 

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Taxi!

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I nominate Sidney Cooke. Over 80, already suffered a stroke and not looking likely to be released any time soon, despite his minimum sentence having elapsed years ago.

 

In fact it can't happen soon enough.

 

:ph34r:

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How about this feller, the oldest man on Death Row Leroy Nash

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I believe (not so much believe, as I read it in a copy of The Mirror which I was forced at gunpoint to read) Rose West was recently attacked, and her attacker "The Black Widow" (chav-noir, a new film genre?) boats that Tracey Connelly, notorious mother of the infamous "Baby P" (that's a famous female rapper here in the UK, for those who don't know), will receive a less-than-sporting welcome to Her Majesty's Thunderdome.

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Yeah, we've been discussing Baby Peter's parents for a while now, both apparently much in the thoughts of the prison population. Painful as it is for us to admit it here, such threats seldom amount to the infamous inmate being offed, though Peter Sutcliffe for one bears the scars of those who caught up with him. If anyone were fatally attacked inside it wouldn't surprise me if it was Ian Huntley, the Baby Peter twosome or The Yorkshire Ripper (especially if his proposed move to Yorkshire goes ahead).

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Yeah, we've been discussing Baby Peter's parents for a while now, both apparently much in the thoughts of the prison population. Painful as it is for us to admit it here, such threats seldom amount to the infamous inmate being offed, though Peter Sutcliffe for one bears the scars of those who caught up with him. If anyone were fatally attacked inside it wouldn't surprise me if it was Ian Huntley, the Baby Peter twosome or The Yorkshire Ripper (especially if his proposed move to Yorkshire goes ahead).

 

You're right MPFC, I don’t think there has ever been a recorded case in the UK prison system of one female inmate murdering another. It's all handbags normally, kettles full of boiling water thown about, razor blades in the food, nasty but not normally fatal. It's not exactly common is male prisons either.

 

Another inmate worthy of consideration would be Brian Shivers, 44, a Real IRA type person who is awaiting trial for allegedly shooting a couple of soliders in Antrim earlier this year. His lawyers tried to stop judges from detaining him in custody, saying that the poor lamb suffers from cystic fibrosis and his life would be at risk if he was kept in a confined enviroment, especially if he was exposed to the swine flu virus. The average life expectancy for cystic fibrosis suffers is well below forty and it is very rare for sufferers to live much past the age of 50. So he's done very well to get this far, especially if he really was healthy enough to open fire on an army barracks.

 

He should suffer from Parkinson's with a surname like that...

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Hmmm, makes you wonder about his diagnosis, doesn't it?

 

Incidentally, mucho respect to Exeter City for withstanding a Cumbrian onslaught, breaking with purpose, forcing us to concede a penalty and then hanging on like hell for 17 minutes to take the points. Probably just about worth the motorway miles for the hardy handful who came and supported them. Would've been a different story if we'd remembered how to hit the f***in' target.

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Yes, we were very lucky from what I've heard. I have watched Exeter at Carlisle before, but was living in Glasgow at the time, so I can't claim to have ever done the 750 mile round trip.

 

Hopefully I'll go again one day and then afterwards take in the bright lights of Botchergate, an experience never to be forgotten.

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bright lights of Botchergate

 

One of the bulbs went last week and we're having a collection to replace it. So at the moment it's the bright LIGHT of Botchergate.

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One more thing, not terribly famous murderer James Willis, 91, from Georgia was first jailed in 1936 and has spent 67 of the last 73 years in prison.

 

I find that it beyond bounds that a person still be serving a sentence (31 years after the event) at the age of 91. I hope the State of Georgia is acting fully within the law on knowing if this chap is still posing a danger to others. As I think its quite far fetched at first reading that even the worst type of person could still do much harm at that advanced age.

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Well, what do you know:-

 

 

Mr. WILLIS, JAMES GDC ID: 362066 was released from the custody of the

Georgia Department of Corrections in March 2006.

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