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With Albert Scanlon being buried today, that leaves four players left from BA Flight 609 still walking this earth: Bill Foulkes and Harry Gregg (both of whom I thought were already dead), Bobby Charlton (will probably outlive his brother by at least a decade) and Harry Morgans (no, me neither). Any value in these as dead pool picks?

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With Albert Scanlon being buried today, that leaves four players left from BA Flight 609 still walking this earth: Bill Foulkes and Harry Gregg (both of whom I thought were already dead), Bobby Charlton (will probably outlive his brother by at least a decade) and Harry Morgans (no, me neither). Any value in these as dead pool picks?

They will get obits when they die, so in principle: yes. Age and health determine whether they're good dead pool material.

 

regards,

Hein

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None of them are old enough... give it another 5 years or so I'd say... :)

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Foulkes was well estabished then, though he went on to play until he was 38. Had a bit of the hard-bitten Roy Keane about him and ended up selling some of his football medals and the like when he got skint a while back.

 

So mebbe, he'll be first of the last four to go.

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This is not to criticise Spade for creating a new thread but the whole point of this thread was to act as a catch-all for Munich (which is discussed there) and other events such as Psycho Survivors (another unnecessary new thread) so as to keep the site reasonably tidy and avoid too many threads which will not on their own attract too much of a debate. If these topics are lumped together they can be discussed when the whim arises without cluttering the forum with lots of new special interest threads. Just a thought.

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Kenny Morgans's death has already been mentioned in four threads, so what harm can a fifth do for such a true footballing legend? There's still The Ones That Got Away for anyone else that feels the need.

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Interestingly, despite the 60th anniversary of the crash happening earlier this year, this thread remained untouched.

 

Harry Gregg remains alive and gave an interview to the BBC earlier this year saying at 85, the commemoration would be his last visit to Old Trafford. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42953090

 

Bobby Charlton has been well discussed elsewhere, especially his outing to the recent funeral of England '66 team mate Ray Wilson.

 

Other survivors known about include Rosemary Cheverton, a stewardess on the plane. She is now married to Ronald Blakely and lives in North Carolina, USA. She gave an interview to The Mirror earlier this year. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/munich-disaster-air-stewardess-reveals-11891431

 

I can find nothing recent in the last couple of years regarding passengers Vera Lukic and her two children, or Eleanor Miklos who appear to be the only other survivors.

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5 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

Interestingly, despite the 60th anniversary of the crash happening earlier this year, this thread remained untouched.

 

Harry Gregg remains alive and gave an interview to the BBC earlier this year saying at 85, the commemoration would be his last visit to Old Trafford. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42953090

 

Bobby Charlton has been well discussed elsewhere, especially his outing to the recent funeral of England '66 team mate Ray Wilson.

 

Other survivors known about include Rosemary Cheverton, a stewardess on the plane. She is now married to Ronald Blakely and lives in North Carolina, USA. She gave an interview to The Mirror earlier this year. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/munich-disaster-air-stewardess-reveals-11891431

 

I can find nothing recent in the last couple of years regarding passengers Vera Lukic and her two children, or Eleanor Miklos who appear to be the only other survivors.

 

 

Are any parts of the plane salvaged and still in service?

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13 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said:

Are any parts of the plane salvaged and still in service?

 

The aircraft involved was an Airspeed Ambassador 2 and only 23 were ever built. One survives and is on display at the Imperial War Museum, Duxford in a non-flying condition.

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2 hours ago, MarcJWallace said:



Harry Gregg, a survivor of the tragic 1958 Munich Air Disaster which claimed the lives of eight of his team-mates, has died aged 87.

Dubbed the Hero of Munich, he rescued several people from the wreckage of the plane - including [Sir] Bobby Charlton, Jackie Blanchflower, Dennis Viollet and his brain-damaged manager, [Sir] Matt Busby.

Gregg's death means that only Charlton survives of the United players who were on the plane who didn't perish.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/17/harry-gregg-manchester-united-and-northern-ireland-great-dies-aged-87

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Boom! All the footballers now dead, with Bobby Charlton's death.

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5 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Boom! All the footballers now dead, with Bobby Charlton's death.

Very sad. But the heathen scousers are probably getting their new lyrics going now. Not that they know how to spell lyrics. 

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