Sarah Palin

[Memento Mori 12]

Tea bag Christine O'Donnell has apparently dabbled in witchcraft. She also has views on lust:

 

"It is not enough to be abstinent with other people, you also have to be be abstinent alone," she said. "The Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery, so you can't masturbate without lust."

 

I assume this means that she thinks to knock one off while thinking of someone other than your wife/partner/lover is to commit adultery.

Which is probably the reason she's still single - she can masturbate to her heart's content without feeling as though she's cheating.

[Magere Hein 1,397]

I assume this means that she thinks to knock one off while thinking of someone other than your wife/partner/lover is to commit adultery.

Which is probably the reason she's still single - she can masturbate to her heart's content without feeling as though she's cheating.

She'll probably still masturbate with a guilty conscience:

 

 

regards,

Hein

[Memento Mori 12]

Christine O'Donnell seeks to reassure voters that she is not a witch.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20018526-503544.html

[DevonDeathTrip 2,288]

Sarah Palin promises to stand by "our North Korean allies"

[Rotten Ali 599]

And yesterday it was Thanksgiving - I give thanks that she is not the Vice President. God forbid she gets another job in any branch of the US Government.

[Spade_Cooley 9,001]

As mentioned in the Political Frailty thread, looks like Palin has her own deadpool list coming up pretty fine.

[Madame Defarge 21]

Jared Loughner is all kinds of crazy, and he had a gun.

 

His Introduction on You Tube

[Rotten Ali 599]

Anyone care to express a view to this one... Could Sarah Palin be guilty of Conspiracy to Commit Murder?

 

from wiki...

 

Conspiracy in the United States

 

Conspiracy has been defined in the US as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions.[1][2] For example, planning to rob a bank (an illegal act) to raise money for charity (a legal end) remains a criminal conspiracy because the parties agreed to use illegal means to accomplish the end goal. A conspiracy does not need to have been planned in secret to meet the definition of the crime. One legal dictionary, law.com, provides this useful example on the application of conspiracy law to an everyday sales transaction tainted by corruption. It shows how the law can handle both the criminal and the civil need for justice.

 

[A] scheme by a group of salesmen to sell used automobiles as new, could be prosecuted as a crime of fraud and conspiracy, and also allow a purchaser of an auto to sue for damages [in civil court] for the fraud and conspiracy.

 

Conspiracy law usually does not require proof of specific intent by the defendants to injure any specific person to establish an illegal agreement. Instead, usually the law only requires the conspirators have agreed to engage in a certain illegal act. This is sometimes described as a "general intent" to violate the law.

 

In United States v. Shabani, 513 U.S. 10 (1994) the United States Supreme Court ruled: U.S. Congress intended to adopt the common law definition of conspiracy, which does not make the doing of any act other than the act of conspiring a condition of liability" at least insofar as to establish a violation of a narcotics conspiracy under 21 U.S.C. § 846. Therefore, the Government need not prove the commission of any overt acts in furtherance of those narcotics conspiracies prohibited by 21 U.S.C. § 846. The Shabani case illustrates that it is a matter of legislative prerogative whether to require an overt step, or not to require an overt step in any conspiracy statute. The court compares the need to prove an overt step to be criminally liable under the conspiracy provision of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970, while there is no such requirement under 21 U.S.C. § 846.

 

The Supreme Court pointed out that common law did not require proof of an overt step, and the need to prove it for a federal conspiracy conviction requires Congress to specifically require proof of an overt step to accomplish the conspiracy. It is a legislative choice on a statute by statute basis.

 

The conspirators can be guilty even if they do not know the identity of the other members of the conspiracy. See United States v. Monroe, 73 F.3d 129 (7th Cir. 1995), aff'd., 124 F.3d 206 (7th Cir. 1997).

 

California criminal law is somewhat representative of other jurisdictions. A punishable conspiracy exists when at least two people form an agreement to commit a crime, and at least one of them does some act in furtherance to committing the crime. Each person is punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided for the punishment of the crime itself. [2]

 

One example of this is The Han Twins Murder Conspiracy case, where one twin sister attempted to hire two youths to have her twin sister killed.

 

One important feature of a conspiracy charge is that it relieves prosecutors of the need to prove the particular roles of conspirators. If two persons plot to kill another (and this can be proven), and the victim is indeed killed as a result of the actions of either conspirator, it is not necessary to prove with specificity which of the conspirators actually pulled the trigger. (Otherwise, both conspirators could conceivably handle the gun—leaving two sets of fingerprints—and then demand acquittals for both, based on the fact that the prosecutor would be unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, which of the two conspirators was the triggerman). A conspiracy conviction requires proof that...

a. the conspirators did indeed conspire to commit the crime, and

b. the crime was committed by an individual involved in the conspiracy. Proof of which individual it was is usually not necessary.

 

It is also an option for prosecutors, when bringing conspiracy charges, to decline to indict all members of the conspiracy (though their existence may be mentioned in an indictment). Such unindicted co-conspirators are commonly found when the identities or whereabouts of members of a conspiracy are unknown; or when the prosecution is only concerned with a particular individual among the conspirators. This is common when the target of the indictment is an elected official or an organized crime leader; and the co-conspirators are persons of little or no public importance. More famously, President Richard Nixon was named as an unindicted co-conspirator by the Watergate special prosecutor, in an event leading up to his eventual resignation.

 

furthermore...

 

In a political sense, conspiracy refers to a group of persons united in the goal of usurping or overthrowing an established political power. Typically, the final goal is to gain power through a revolutionary coup d'état or through assassination.

[maryportfuncity 9,984]

C'mon Ali, is there any hard evidence of Lubbock's death?

[Madame Defarge 21]

Anyone care to express a view to this one... Could Sarah Palin be guilty of Conspiracy to Commit Murder?

 

from wiki...

 

Conspiracy in the United States

 

Conspiracy has been defined in the US as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions.[1][2] For example, planning to rob a bank (an illegal act) to raise money for charity (a legal end) remains a criminal conspiracy because the parties agreed to use illegal means to accomplish the end goal. A conspiracy does not need to have been planned in secret to meet the definition of the crime. One legal dictionary, law.com, provides this useful example on the application of conspiracy law to an everyday sales transaction tainted by corruption. It shows how the law can handle both the criminal and the civil need for justice.

 

[A] scheme by a group of salesmen to sell used automobiles as new, could be prosecuted as a crime of fraud and conspiracy, and also allow a purchaser of an auto to sue for damages [in civil court] for the fraud and conspiracy.

 

Conspiracy law usually does not require proof of specific intent by the defendants to injure any specific person to establish an illegal agreement. Instead, usually the law only requires the conspirators have agreed to engage in a certain illegal act. This is sometimes described as a "general intent" to violate the law.

 

In United States v. Shabani, 513 U.S. 10 (1994) the United States Supreme Court ruled: U.S. Congress intended to adopt the common law definition of conspiracy, which does not make the doing of any act other than the act of conspiring a condition of liability" at least insofar as to establish a violation of a narcotics conspiracy under 21 U.S.C. § 846. Therefore, the Government need not prove the commission of any overt acts in furtherance of those narcotics conspiracies prohibited by 21 U.S.C. § 846. The Shabani case illustrates that it is a matter of legislative prerogative whether to require an overt step, or not to require an overt step in any conspiracy statute. The court compares the need to prove an overt step to be criminally liable under the conspiracy provision of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970, while there is no such requirement under 21 U.S.C. § 846.

 

The Supreme Court pointed out that common law did not require proof of an overt step, and the need to prove it for a federal conspiracy conviction requires Congress to specifically require proof of an overt step to accomplish the conspiracy. It is a legislative choice on a statute by statute basis.

 

The conspirators can be guilty even if they do not know the identity of the other members of the conspiracy. See United States v. Monroe, 73 F.3d 129 (7th Cir. 1995), aff'd., 124 F.3d 206 (7th Cir. 1997).

 

California criminal law is somewhat representative of other jurisdictions. A punishable conspiracy exists when at least two people form an agreement to commit a crime, and at least one of them does some act in furtherance to committing the crime. Each person is punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided for the punishment of the crime itself. [2]

 

One example of this is The Han Twins Murder Conspiracy case, where one twin sister attempted to hire two youths to have her twin sister killed.

 

One important feature of a conspiracy charge is that it relieves prosecutors of the need to prove the particular roles of conspirators. If two persons plot to kill another (and this can be proven), and the victim is indeed killed as a result of the actions of either conspirator, it is not necessary to prove with specificity which of the conspirators actually pulled the trigger. (Otherwise, both conspirators could conceivably handle the gun—leaving two sets of fingerprints—and then demand acquittals for both, based on the fact that the prosecutor would be unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, which of the two conspirators was the triggerman). A conspiracy conviction requires proof that...

a. the conspirators did indeed conspire to commit the crime, and

b. the crime was committed by an individual involved in the conspiracy. Proof of which individual it was is usually not necessary.

 

It is also an option for prosecutors, when bringing conspiracy charges, to decline to indict all members of the conspiracy (though their existence may be mentioned in an indictment). Such unindicted co-conspirators are commonly found when the identities or whereabouts of members of a conspiracy are unknown; or when the prosecution is only concerned with a particular individual among the conspirators. This is common when the target of the indictment is an elected official or an organized crime leader; and the co-conspirators are persons of little or no public importance. More famously, President Richard Nixon was named as an unindicted co-conspirator by the Watergate special prosecutor, in an event leading up to his eventual resignation.

 

furthermore...

 

In a political sense, conspiracy refers to a group of persons united in the goal of usurping or overthrowing an established political power. Typically, the final goal is to gain power through a revolutionary coup d'état or through assassination.

They would have to be able to prove 'general intent' and prove that there was an agreement between conspirators. It's been confirmed now that the shooter acted alone.

But the target and firearms related imagery favored so by Sarah Palin may mean that her political career is as dead as the six (so far) innocent victims in Tuscon.

[sympathyforthedevil 11]

But the target and firearms related imagery favored so by Sarah Palin may mean that her political career is as dead as the six (so far) innocent victims in Tuscon.

 

One hopes that this is true, madame.

[The Miser 17]

C'mon Ali, is there any hard evidence of Lubbock's death?

 

Its more then a stretch...there isn't any nexus established. There is no evidence that he ever viewed any of Palin's material.

 

One thing is for sure. The left will use this to try to stiffen gun controls and this is a serious setback for pot legalization since this guy was a habitual user and lost his shit.

 

In the end, everyone will try to shape the debate there own way. What should be the real focus is the failure of the mental health system to identify this guy as a danger.

 

As far as Palin's political career, it was already considered dead in many circles. She is no threat to winning any national office. She will continue to be a talking head/fundraiser; maybe senator from Alaska someday. I wouldn't worry about her being POTUS.

[CarolAnn 924]

Anyone care to express a view to this one... Could Sarah Palin be guilty of Conspiracy to Commit Murder?

 

Oh come on. Time to turn in the MD and the JD, RA.

 

I have a schizophrenic sister who can be sent into a psychotic rage by someone saying the word "purple" at the right time and with the right inflection. The guy may have fed his paranoia with neo-conservative claptrap, but if that wasn't around he would have fed it with little orange men from Beta Centauri.

 

Palin's post was stupid, ill advised and unfortunate, but blaming her for the actions of a lunatic is unfair. As much as I would like to hang the decline of western civilization squarely on her neck, even I recognize that a conspiracy charge stemming from that graphic is a reach not only of law, but also of logic.

[gettingOLD! 0]

I think Jared Loughner is certainly crazy and confused by shooting Gabrielle Giffords he should have shot Sarah Palin

[JR976evil 885]

Anyone care to express a view to this one... Could Sarah Palin be guilty of Conspiracy to Commit Murder?

 

Oh come on. Time to turn in the MD and the JD, RA.

 

I have a schizophrenic sister who can be sent into a psychotic rage by someone saying the word "purple" at the right time and with the right inflection. The guy may have fed his paranoia with neo-conservative claptrap, but if that wasn't around he would have fed it with little orange men from Beta Centauri.

 

Palin's post was stupid, ill advised and unfortunate, but blaming her for the actions of a lunatic is unfair. As much as I would like to hang the decline of western civilization squarely on her neck, even I recognize that a conspiracy charge stemming from that graphic is a reach not only of law, but also of logic.

 

in any case her Presidential aspirations are almost certainly up the spout, not that they were ever really credible to start with. Her greatest asset is all the material she has provided for SNL gag-writers over the past couple of years

[Rotten Ali 599]

I read this story with glee...

 

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archiv...-county/241983/

 

It finally looks like our American friends have lost their love for Palin...

Political Career...

 

DEAD

[Sir Creep 7,011]

David Kernell, the Germantown High graduate who guessed his way into Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s personal email account in 2008, died last week in California. He was 30.  Kernell died of complications related to progressive multiple sclerosis (MS).

David Kernell, once ranked in the top 10 percent of chess players in the U.S., was a 20-year-old economics major at the University of Tennessee Knoxville when he guessed the security answers to enter Palin's Yahoo! account, changed the password to "popcorn," and then posted the new password, family photographs and some emails on the online message board 4chan under the pseudonym "Rubico."

SC

[Dalai Lama 10]

I love Sarah Palin.

[ajlposh 448]

Had COVID and is unvaccinated. Sooooo…..maybe one to keep an eye on?

[Salmon Mousse 465]

53 minutes ago, ajlposh said:

Had COVID and is unvaccinated. Sooooo…..maybe one to keep an eye on?

 

When she recovers feel free to ignore it because that never happens.