gcreptile 10,221 Posted May 22, 2021 Ah well, Germany won in 2010 after pissing off pretty much every European country south of the Alps, and France. UK does bad because the songs were/are bad - which has also been true for Germany most of the time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,118 Posted May 22, 2021 I don't get why Israel is included. It's not in Europe. Also, for future Eurovision-related lists Jari Sillanpää, 2004 participant (Takes 2 to Tango) could be a good pick soon. He has had problems with meth, alcohol and everything AND was on trial last year as he had a pornographic video where a very young child was sexually abused on his computer. Rumored to have travelled to Thailand multiple times a year before covid, sex tourism involving children. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 10,995 Posted May 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, arghton said: I don't get why Israel is included. It's not in Europe. Because eligibility for Eurovision isn't determined by geography. Yes, Israel is located in western Asia, but it is a member of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU), which produces the show (it also has associated membership of the EU, since 1995... but that's irrelevant). Australia is also a participant now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 17,755 Posted May 22, 2021 On 05/05/2021 at 16:29, YoungWillz said: Ok, so not long to go now, so here are the thoughts of the YW Jury again. Doing it slightly differently this year. If a country/tune isn't mentioned, it's because I thought it average or tending good but not worthy of input. Thoughts are my own and you are welcome to disagree. I rate the songs STANDING ALONE without looking at the odds or the sob stories that accompany these things and as always the night's staging and delivery might change chances. Big Six dealt with separately as usual. r choice. Portugal - A simple and effective number, it has a proper story with a late Beatles-esque orchestration. The juries will cream themselves over it, not sure about the hoi polloi. Second: United Kingdom - I'll maintain this is falling short on orchestration and horns, but set against the competition in the whole contest, I'm actually optimistic about this. It's strong, just not perfect. Best chance for the UK in...forever. *goes to see what Willz thought of the only good song so far, not mentioned* The British song is a bit dire, sorry. Portugal's above was mellow naptime music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,035 Posted May 22, 2021 Tumblr right now as i'm liveblogging: "We thought covid was the tragedy of the year turns out it's actually French making a comeback in Europe." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,142 Posted May 22, 2021 Nil Points. The winning song was even sung in foreign. Disgraceful. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redrumours 814 Posted May 22, 2021 We played a blinder then. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomTomTelekom 3,601 Posted May 22, 2021 People's votes showed what a terrible taste have jurys. Proud of Italy, Congratulations for that nice Rock song!!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 3,650 Posted May 22, 2021 Daaaamn I wish France had won we were close... sorry for you who didn’t get any points, was neither fair nor representative 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 12,116 Posted May 22, 2021 Royaume Uni - NUL POINTS! Tremendous achievement To be fair, my favourites were Finland, Iceland, Israel and Italy, so I’m quite happy with the result. Raised a glass (may not have been my first of the evening) to Sir Terry Wogan at song 9. It must be said though, Graham Norton once again did a stellar job. Long may he reign! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,006 Posted May 22, 2021 Bulgaria - equal tenth. Phew! Those who took my advice can collect their winnings from the Bookies. Fairly respectable scores for the ones who got through and I liked. Azerbaijan surprisingly low, however. By no means was the UK entry weakest in the context of the competition. May I suggest that next year, the UK simply send a silent steaming pile of elephant dung under a picture of the then incumbent Prime Minister - which can sit on the stage for 3 whole minutes. Call it fucking art and the UK can proudly wear at least 10 points. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 3,448 Posted May 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Toast said: No, it's only the UK that everyone else hates. Even more so now. Our aim should be to get nul points every year, it'd be more fun that way. I don't even think they hate us. I think they just couldn't give a shit about us, which is worse. Having heard them all tonight, though, I don't think it was vindictive to give us nul points, we just were really average and easy to forget. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,035 Posted May 22, 2021 I just laughed at how Malta, Switzerland and France got so cocky at the start and then they saw the public just want quirkyness and rock songs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,221 Posted May 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: By no means was the UK entry weakest in the context of the competition. May I suggest that next year, the UK simply send a silent steaming pile of elephant dung under a picture of the then incumbent Prime Minister - which can sit on the stage for 3 whole minutes. Call it fucking art and the UK can proudly wear at least 10 points. I think I agree, UK was not the weakest song. It's a bit like the songs Germany submitted a couple of years ago (thinking of our 2016 song, for example): It's competent, harmless and average. Problem is, you need to make people vote for you, and you've got to stand out. There are only 10 teams you can give points to (12,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1). You can have the 11th best song in Europe overall, but still end up with zero points, if you are exactly at 11th place in every country. Germany's song was much worse, but I guess some judges liked to be slammed with that wokeness hammer and they gave us three pity points. Other worse songs were those spectacularly cheap, but effective songs like Effendi and Loco Loco (Serbia and Albania). They kind of stood out for their open shamelessness, and I kind of liked that. Also, it helps to have some allies, I guess, really strong allies, like Greece and Cyprus. Or Moldova and Bulgaria. But that only takes you above zero, hardly above 100 points. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 14,824 Posted May 23, 2021 Nul points? Splendid! Who did we vote for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 3,448 Posted May 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Toast said: Nul points? Splendid! Who did we vote for? The UK as a whole or personally? UK top 3 public vote was Lithuania (12), Iceland (10), Bulgaria (8). We gave France a decent chunk (5 or 6) and gave Italy (the winners) 2-4. I can't remember exactly. Personally, I voted for Iceland as much on last year as this year in all honesty, but I thought it was a surprisingly decent year for songs and am perfectly happy with the UK's top 3, plus the lukewarm points for Italy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideik 236 Posted May 23, 2021 8 hours ago, ladyfiona said: I just laughed at how Malta, Switzerland and France got so cocky at the start and then they saw the public just want quirkyness and rock songs. I Just followed the voting phase, I really find it thrilling...but I can confirm what you say since maneskin already overturned the result thanks to the televoting at Sanremo, the national contest which gave them the right to represent Italy at the Eurovision. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,453 Posted May 23, 2021 Who cares about this Eurofag shite. I'm sure you'll find more real music Brit rock/pop/soul/everything in your average wop/dago/kraut/frog's record collection than vice versa. I'll give the eyeties the nod on 19th-century opera, but I mean...it's fucking opera. This post has been brought to you in the spirit of Sir Cuntalot. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 10,995 Posted May 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy said: Who cares about this Eurofag shite. I'm sure you'll find more real music Brit rock/pop/soul/everything in your average wop/dago/kraut/frog's record collection than vice versa. I'll give the eyeties the nod on 19th-century opera, but I mean...it's fucking opera. This post has been brought to you in the spirit of Sir Cuntalot. How old are you? You sound like a boomer who shakes his fist and yells at things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,453 Posted May 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: How old are you? You sound like a boomer who shakes his fist and yells at things. I know, I know, I should be doing something more useful with my time, like finding out whether everyone who's ever appeared in the pop charts is alive, dead or caught a chill in 1996. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 14,824 Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Ulitzer95 said: How old are you? You sound like a boomer who shakes his fist and yells at things. You do realise that you are addressing one of the creators of the original Death List? Should be fairly easy to estimate his age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 10,995 Posted May 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Toast said: You do realise that you are addressing one of the creators of the original Death List? Should be fairly easy to estimate his age. Sorry Toasty, zero fucks given. No free passes for stupidity and calling people “fags”. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 14,824 Posted May 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Sorry Toasty, zero fucks given. No free passes for stupidity and calling people “fags”. You asked his age. I offered a clue. And you clearly missed the point of his closing sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 12,116 Posted May 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, Toast said: And you clearly missed the point of his closing sentence. What, where he so nobly hid behind someone else for his own dead set cuntery? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites