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It has been a big year for cricket deaths, I might try and pick an XI at the end of the year.

 

So far (just off the top of my head), Arthur Morris, Tom Graveney, Richie Benaud, Clive Rice, Frank Tyson, Bob Appleyard, Lindsay Kline.

 

I'm sure that I can find another 4 names. Maybe there's a wicketkeeper in there somewhere?

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Just gone back through the thread and seen that I have forgotten Brian Close.

 

So 3 more spots to fill. Ideally an opening batsman, a middle order batsman and a wicketkeeper. Looks like an excellently balanced bowling attack.

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Just gone back through the thread and seen that I have forgotten Brian Close.

 

So 3 more spots to fill. Ideally an opening batsman, a middle order batsman and a wicketkeeper. Looks like an excellently balanced bowling attack.

 

How's about John Edrich as an opener? Watching C & E being pummelled by the WI was a disturbing intro to Cricket for a child. West Indies not Women's Institute..that's a whole other game.

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Just gone back through the thread and seen that I have forgotten Brian Close.

 

So 3 more spots to fill. Ideally an opening batsman, a middle order batsman and a wicketkeeper. Looks like an excellently balanced bowling attack.

Barrie Meyer for wicketkeeper, 15 years behind the poles for Gloucs.

 

Useful umpire too.

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@ Youwanticewiththat - John Edrich would be an excellent candidate for the team except for the fact he is still alive and this is a team for those dying in 2015. He still has the best part of a couple of months to put his name in front of the selection panel (i.e. me) and dying would go a long way to seeing him selected in the team. At the risk of appearing ghoulish (not really a problem on this site), Martin Crowe has been pencilled into the vacant middle order spot, but the wicketkeeping position is still very much up for grabs. Australia's oldest living test cricketer is Len Maddocks who was a wicketkeeper, but let's see who else can make a case for selection.

 

@ time, Yes Barrie Meyer is the frontrunner for the position at the moment but he would be the odd man out in a team where most players have extensive test experience. But at the moment, the position is his to lose.

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@ Youwanticewiththat

 

I think under the standing orders of deathlist.net forums I am now legally obliged to call you a twunt (or summat).

 

I think there would have been some quite harrowing series in the 70s, watching the older style English cricketers like Edrich and co (my favourite was David Steele who was described as the bank clerk who went to war), who had to face Roberts, Holding, Lillee, Thomson etc. who were playing a much fiercer version of the game.

 

Of course there is the famous story of Colin Cowdrey who was drafted into the 1974/75 Ashes squad in Australia. Came out to bat the first time having not met some of the Australian players and extends his hand to Jeff Thomson (and according to Wiki)

 

"Mr Thomson, I believe? How good to meet you."

Colin Cowdrey

"That's not going to help you fatso, piss off."

Jeff Thomson[27] But Thommo is a bogan of the first order and not getting any better with age.

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@ time, Yes Barrie Meyer is the frontrunner for the position at the moment but he would be the odd man out in a team where most players have extensive test experience. But at the moment, the position is his to lose.

 

If you make Test playing a must then Hemant Kanitkar played a couple of Tests for India making one Test 50 although he had no Test catches or stumpings.

 

As a First Class career only you would get more runs from Brian Reynolds who scored 21 first class centuries to Barrie Meyer's none but may not have been such a good keeper. Depends on how many runs you have in your batting line up and that depends on who fills your last couple of vacancies. Basil Williams could take the opener slot if you are stuck by end of year (7 tests, 2 Centuries, Av 39).

 

Finally of course due to incredibly bad timing of his career span matching the apartheid sports ban Clive Rice didn't actually play Test cricket although he was undoubtedly a Test standard cricketer.

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@ Youwanticewiththat

 

I think under the standing orders of deathlist.net forums I am now legally obliged to call you a twunt (or summat).

 

I think there would have been some quite harrowing series in the 70s, watching the older style English cricketers like Edrich and co (my favourite was David Steele who was described as the bank clerk who went to war), who had to face Roberts, Holding, Lillee, Thomson etc. who were playing a much fiercer version of the game.

 

Of course there is the famous story of Chris Cowdrey who was drafted into the 1974/75 Ashes squad in Australia. Came out to bat the first time having not met some of the Australian players and extends his hand to Jeff Thomson (and according to Wiki)

 

"Mr Thomson, I believe? How good to meet you."

Colin Cowdrey

"That's not going to help you fatso, piss off."

Jeff Thomson[27] But Thommo is a bogan of the first order and not getting any better with age.

 

Indeed there were... but one rainy day at Lords in 1977 those brogan Aussies rounded up the straggler spectators when rain stopped play and spent a couple of hours teaching us Aussie Rules..sheer joy. Mind you I've never seen a man (who shall remain nameless) run so fast when he found out I was only 13 at the bar. Still, at least he ran....ah the 70s....

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The only good thing about cricket is that you can smash people over the head with the bat and 'accidentally' throw the ball at somebody and cause them harm.

Apart from that its shit.

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http://m.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/sussex-cricket-player-matthew-hobden-dies-aged-22-20160102-glyam7.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

Sussex County Cricket Player Matthew Hobden dies aged just 22.

 

No details yet on cause of death.

Awfully sad 😔

 

Plunged to his death after falling asleep on a roof.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cricketer-matthew-hobden-fell-asleep-7128423#rlabs=49%20p$3

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A little late but here is my list of 2015's Dead Cricketer XI

 

Basil Williams (WI)

Arthur Morris (Aus)

Tom Graveney (Eng)

Brian Close (Eng)

Steve Camacho (WI)

Hemant Kanitkar (Ind)

Richie Benaud (Aus)

Clive Rice (SA)

Frank Tyson (Eng)

Bob Appleyard (Eng)

Lindsay Kline (Aus)

 

Vale to all of these men. I will particularly miss Richie of course, but as I have previously mentioned in this forum, Bob Appleyard had a fascinating life story.

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Never mind Hobden and Allin being bowled over for 2016, it's John Manners I want to walk back to the pavilion. At 101 he is the oldest first class player "not out". He is in my Deathrace selection so its about time he was stumped and shuffled off to the long room and visited the Lords!

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Henry Blofeld was on Museum of Curiosities on R4 Monday night and spoke about his heart bypass operation and how he almost died.

 

One to keep an eye on.

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Tom Pugh, rackets player and Gloucestershire County captain has reportedly died at 79. http://www.thepca.co.uk/obituaries.html#TOM%20PUGH

 

One DDP team awaits an obit - according to Wiki he died on 30th January, according to this https://www.tennisandrackets.com/NewsItem.aspx?id=1457 he died on 1 February, so...

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Tom Pugh, rackets player and Gloucestershire County captain has reportedly died at 79. http://www.thepca.co.uk/obituaries.html#TOM%20PUGH

 

One DDP team awaits an obit - according to Wiki he died on 30th January, according to this https://www.tennisandrackets.com/NewsItem.aspx?id=1457 he died on 1 February, so...

 

Death Notice in The Telegraph for Tom Pugh: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/199444/pugh

 

I understand this counts for DDP purposes.

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Tom Pugh, rackets player and Gloucestershire County captain has reportedly died at 79. http://www.thepca.co.uk/obituaries.html#TOM%20PUGH

 

One DDP team awaits an obit - according to Wiki he died on 30th January, according to this https://www.tennisandrackets.com/NewsItem.aspx?id=1457 he died on 1 February, so...

 

Death Notice in The Telegraph for Tom Pugh: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/199444/pugh

 

I understand this counts for DDP purposes.

 

 

Or even better, a proper Times Obit: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/obituaries/article4688749.ece

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He'll have to wait till next time...

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I'll start preparing the next round up then he he.

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(nods)

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