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Another one bites the dust.

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Perhaps just like Mr. Smith, the Rev's tag should also say fallen?

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That of love to the next that most of the religious like this lord propagate is pure lie, a disguise to hide who really are truly.

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Rest in peace Reverend.

 

He was suffering for years and years so this is one of the few "happy releases" on this list.

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On ‎03‎/‎11‎/‎2003 at 21:44, Guest Catherine said:

85 - well past average life expectancy - and could pop his clogs soon.

14 and a half years later .... <_<

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To be fair, I came across an article today where he admits he made mistakes, including the fact that he had provided a theological veneer of justification for US imperialism:

 

 

"I came close to identifying the American way of life with the kingdom of God... Then I realized that God had called me to a higher kingdom than America. I have tried to be faithful to my calling as a minister of the gospel."

 

Also, "To underline how far his thinking had evolved, he said that he now thought that President Truman had "made a mistake in dropping that first atomic bomb" on Japan.

 

"I wish we had never developed it," he said of the bomb. "I have seen that we must seek the good of the whole human race, and not just the good of any one nation or race.""

 

 

"Until his dying day [note: that'd be today - DJL ;) ], he believed that communism was a malevolent attempt to usurp the sovereignty of God on earth.

 

But he changed in how he thought Christians should behave towards Communists—the people, not the ideology—and in how he thought the gospel should be presented to regimes that officially rejected Christianity. Graham came to believe that direct confrontation with wicked regimes would not work. His new approach to dealing with communist regimes was an extension of his approach to working for the propagation of the gospel with people whose Christian theology differed sharply from his own—and to the fundamentalists was sheer anathema."

 

Source: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/billy-graham/what-i-would-have-done-differently.html

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All his life waiting for the second coming but on deathlist he is the second going

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On 2/22/2018 at 17:39, Davey Jones' Locker said:

To be fair, I came across an article today where he admits he made mistakes, including the fact that he had provided a theological veneer of justification for US imperialism:

 

 

"I came close to identifying the American way of life with the kingdom of God... Then I realized that God had called me to a higher kingdom than America. I have tried to be faithful to my calling as a minister of the gospel."

 

Also, "To underline how far his thinking had evolved, he said that he now thought that President Truman had "made a mistake in dropping that first atomic bomb" on Japan.

 

"I wish we had never developed it," he said of the bomb. "I have seen that we must seek the good of the whole human race, and not just the good of any one nation or race.""

 

 

"Until his dying day [note: that'd be today - DJL ;) ], he believed that communism was a malevolent attempt to usurp the sovereignty of God on earth.

 

But he changed in how he thought Christians should behave towards Communists—the people, not the ideology—and in how he thought the gospel should be presented to regimes that officially rejected Christianity. Graham came to believe that direct confrontation with wicked regimes would not work. His new approach to dealing with communist regimes was an extension of his approach to working for the propagation of the gospel with people whose Christian theology differed sharply from his own—and to the fundamentalists was sheer anathema."

 

Source: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/billy-graham/what-i-would-have-done-differently.html

 

Hmmm. I take it all back. He was an evil murderous apologist for imperialism: :(  :(  :( 

 

"To some, he was "America's Pastor," a benign pater familias blessing the nation.

To others, he was the country's leading hypocrite, in one moment preaching a gospel of love and, in another, advising presidents to escalate the war in Vietnam."

 

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/24/587809173/billy-graham-walked-a-line-and-regretted-crossing-over-it-when-it-came-to-politi

 

"His support for the war in Vietnam was so enthusiastic that on April 15,1969, after meeting with missionaries from Vietnam, Graham sent a memo to the White House urging that, if the peace talks in Paris failed, Nixon should bomb the dikes that held back floodwaters in the North. This, said Graham, “could overnight destroy the economy of North Vietnam.” It would also have destroyed countless villages, sending as many as a million civilians to their deaths."

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/21/billy-graham-death-richard-nixon-217039

 

 

 

"The most important clergyman for Christian libertarianism, though, was the Rev. Billy Graham. In his initial ministry, in the early 1950s, Mr. Graham supported corporate interests so zealously that a London paper called him “the Big Business evangelist.” The Garden of Eden, he informed revival attendees, was a paradise with “no union dues, no labor leaders, no snakes, no disease.” In the same spirit, he denounced all “government restrictions” in economic affairs, which he invariably attacked as “socialism.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/opinion/sunday/a-christian-nation-since-when.html

 

 

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 Looks like he got to lie in state...

EDIT: Technically it’s lain in honor...

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On 2/28/2018 at 15:06, Joey Russ said:

 

 Looks like he got to lie in state...

EDIT: Technically it’s lain in honor...

Totally inappropriate but not unexpected for such a careless and extreme administration. This could not be a more up-in-your-face violation of our principle of separating church and state. 

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On 1/18/2018 at 23:57, Death Impends said:

Billy may outlast yet another associate: evangelist Luis Palau, who worked as a translator for Billy Graham before founding his own ministry and has sometimes been called "the Latin American Billy Graham," has stage 4 lung cancer.

Tumors has shrunk with no new growth. Mind you, this does give me Nabeel Qureshi vibes...

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Moved.

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