Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted February 9, 2014 I was just looking up survivors from the cast of "How Green Was My Valley" and I was surprised Maureen O'Hara doesn't have a dedicated thread here yet. I have no health news but she is 93 now so comparable with Lauren Bacall and Olivia de Havilland. Post away! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,271 Posted February 10, 2014 I was just looking up survivors from the cast of "How Green Was My Valley" and I was surprised Maureen O'Hara doesn't have a dedicated thread here yet. I have no health news but she is 93 now so comparable with Lauren Bacall and Olivia de Havilland. Post away! So, er....... isn't "How Green Was My Valley" a funny and suggestive film title? haha.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,557 Posted February 10, 2014 We share the same birthday - not the year, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted October 26, 2014 This would be an ideal substitute for Olivia in the 2015 DL.1. Her career was just as profilic and successful as Olivia's.2. She is wheelchaired.3. She has diabetes.4. She recently won an honorary Oscar, meaning that she has one less incentive to "keep on going." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,333 Posted October 26, 2014 Why can`t we have both? We could just substitute her for Dick Van Dyke or Tony Bennett as opposed to Olivia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted October 27, 2014 Why can`t we have both? We could just substitute her for Dick Van Dyke or Tony Bennett as opposed to Olivia? Well, I'm fairly confident that Olivia will live to see 2016. But okay, we might as well replace some of the men you mentioned instead. The DL is already too male dominated. Undoubtably because men don't live as long as women. I call it playing it too safe. It's way disproportionate. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted October 27, 2014 Why can`t we have both? We could just substitute her for Dick Van Dyke or Tony Bennett as opposed to Olivia? Well, I'm fairly confident that Olivia will live to see 2016. But okay, we might as well replace some of the men you mentioned instead. The DL is already too male dominated. Undoubtably because men don't live as long as women. I call it playing it too safe. It's way disproportionate. Elliot Rodger did his best to even that up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted October 28, 2014 Why can`t we have both? We could just substitute her for Dick Van Dyke or Tony Bennett as opposed to Olivia? Well, I'm fairly confident that Olivia will live to see 2016. But okay, we might as well replace some of the men you mentioned instead. The DL is already too male dominated. Undoubtably because men don't live as long as women. I call it playing it too safe. It's way disproportionate. Well I don't think we should introduce quotas or something. I think that a lot of the problem is many of the fields we draw from are very male dominated worlds. Politics, sport, movies etc On my work list of the 10 oldest 6 were women but when I look at the middle 50 on the list there are 13 women which is higher than the DL but far from parity. Although 30% of the scoring deaths have been women. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rotten Ali 600 Posted October 28, 2014 This year I have 10 women on my team. I've only had one of them die... 11 out of 40 = 27.5% 1 hit from 10 = 10% Next year, I propose to incorporate at least 12 women, and submit to the DDP a theme team (called Dead Bird) only featuring women. There, that will handicap me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted October 29, 2014 This year I have 10 women on my team. I've only had one of them die... 11 out of 40 = 27.5% 1 hit from 10 = 10% Next year, I propose to incorporate at least 12 women, and submit to the DDP a theme team (called Dead Bird) only featuring women. There, that will handicap me... The 10 oldest people in the world are all women but I am not sure whether that would help or hinder your team. They don't seem inclined to die at all this year. Regarding the longevity of woman, before we were married Mrs Biblio worked in a village pharmacy. Naturally she had lots of elderly customers, She observed that if the wife predeceased the husband, the man would often die within the year whereas the woman would battle on. One of my DDP teams only had 5 women in but 3 of them have died 60% hit rate. Whereas another only has two women neither of whom has died, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted October 29, 2014 My draft shadow list for next year currently has 8 women on it. Not including Maureen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,333 Posted October 29, 2014 There are plenty of women we can put on next years list for the first time. Here are my ideas: 1)Maureen O`Hara 2)Sheila Mercier 3)Liz Smith 4)Carol Channing 5)Helen Fawkes 6)Caroline Aherne 7)Clare Hollingworth 8)Liliane Bettencourt 9)Liz Dawn 10)Glynis Johns 11)Mary Wilson (Harold's widow) 12)Clarissa Eden 13)Eva Marie Saint 14)Mary Tyler Moore 15)Grace Lee Boggs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted October 29, 2014 Jean Alexander Nancy Reagen Jackie Stallone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted November 2, 2014 My draft shadow list for next year currently has 8 women on it. Not including Maureen. Shadow lists usually have 50 names, right? If not, 8 is actually a good number for a DDP entry if you go by the mathematical Golden Ratio. 20 names Men: 12.36 (round down to 12) Women: 7.64 (round up to 8) 50 names Men: 30.9 (round up to 31) Women: 19.1 (round down to 19) 150 names <---For Lewd Squirrel Men: 92.71 (round up to 93) Women: 57.29 (round down to 57) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,654 Posted November 2, 2014 There are plenty of women we can put on next years list for the first time. Here are my ideas: 1)Maureen O`Hara 2)Sheila Mercier 3)Liz Smith 4)Carol Channing 5)Helen Fawkes 6)Caroline Aherne 7)Clare Hollingworth 8)Liliane Bettencourt 9)Liz Dawn 10)Glynis Johns 11)Mary Wilson (Harold's widow) 12)Clarissa Eden 13)Eva Marie Saint 14)Mary Tyler Moore 15)Grace Lee Boggs Diem Brown Alwen Harris and John Betjemen's gravely ill daughter (marginally obitable, name escapes me at the mo). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,333 Posted November 2, 2014 There are plenty of women we can put on next years list for the first time. Here are my ideas: 1)Maureen O`Hara 2)Sheila Mercier 3)Liz Smith 4)Carol Channing 5)Helen Fawkes 6)Caroline Aherne 7)Clare Hollingworth 8)Liliane Bettencourt 9)Liz Dawn 10)Glynis Johns 11)Mary Wilson (Harold's widow) 12)Clarissa Eden 13)Eva Marie Saint 14)Mary Tyler Moore 15)Grace Lee Boggs Diem Brown Alwen Harris and John Betjemen's gravely ill daughter (marginally obitable, name escapes me at the mo). Diem Brown and Alwen Harris are not famous enough for The Death List but will be both be very popular DDP picks and dead certs for obituaries.John Betjemen`s daughter Candida Lycett Green died on 19th August. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,148 Posted November 2, 2014 John Betjemen's gravely ill daughter (marginally obitable, name escapes me at the mo). She was a lot more than "marginally obitable". She was very well known in her own right, not just as family of the famous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted November 3, 2014 Honor Blackman might be a good bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted November 5, 2014 Why can`t we have both? We could just substitute her for Dick Van Dyke or Tony Bennett as opposed to Olivia? Well, I'm fairly confident that Olivia will live to see 2016. But okay, we might as well replace some of the men you mentioned instead. The DL is already too male dominated. Undoubtably because men don't live as long as women. I call it playing it too safe. It's way disproportionate. Are you sure your figures are correct? P = Phyllis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted November 6, 2014 I have taken some of the suggestions on this forum, current picks and a host of other names to come up with 25 ladies who I think could grace the 2015 Deathlist but I do not think we should pick on gender alone we need the best picks regardless of gender. I was surprised at how easy this was and could have probably gone on to fill a full 50. Zsa Zsa Gabor Luise Rainer Olivia de Havilland Valerie Harper Vera Lynn P D James Doris Day Nancy Reagen Fay Weldon Liz Dawn Jean Alexander Mary Wilson Sheila Mercier Clarissa Eden Maureen O' Hara Liz Smith Betty White Mary Tyler Moore Aretha Franklin Marguritte Pattern June Spencer Pamela Cundell Elizabeth Kelly Sheila Sim Queen Elizabeth II Maybe we could sell "This is what a feminist's corpse looks like" t-shirts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted November 6, 2014 The more democratic drop 40 has 10 women on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted November 7, 2014 Are you sure your figures are correct? P = Phyllis Sorry, I honestly thought that PD James was a man. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted November 10, 2014 Maureen's to receive an honorary Oscar. I can't post a link as Firefox for Android keeps carshing on me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted November 10, 2014 BTW, it is a Telegraph article with the charming title "I wasn't going to play the whore" if some kind soul wants to post the link here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,742 Posted November 10, 2014 BTW, it is a Telegraph article with the charming title "I wasn't going to play the whore" if some kind soul wants to post the link here. Telegraph Linky 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
