charon 4,943 Posted December 3, 2014 Meh... Got the Scottish Socialist Republican Alba on Fb, and they pointed me to a 9 year old Guardian bit about the Brit torture camps for commies after WW2 http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/nov/12/topstories3.secondworldwar http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/apr/03/germany.topstories3 ^^^german commie tortured by the Brits... Any wonder they declined in numbers in these shores? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted December 3, 2014 The Communist Party weigh in with their views! http://www.wsws.org/...2/hugh-d02.html It's a good job you reported it, no other major news outlet saw fit to take them seriously. So, is Communism fit for the DL 2015? I think it died 20 years ago... Not entirely, I believe, but it has been smelling funny during that time. It appears the news that Russia are no longer the good guys has been completely missed by the people at wsws, if I read their article on some Russian sabre rattling. regards, Hein From what I can gather, this guys are hardcore Trotskyists so they disown Stalin as a "reactionary." Weirdly, they do seem to have some kind of soft spot for Putin though, even though he is running an oligarchy. I guess they just despise NATO more than they do capitalist, Mafia-run Russia for some reason. Interestingly, they feel they are the only true left. All other groups, whether they be hardliners like Socialist Alliance or moderates like the Labour Party, Greens and trade unionists, are all the "pseudo-left" to these guys because they are either prepared to work within the system or have been distracted from economic issues by identity politics. Hence, only Trotskyists like themselves are the true inheritors of the mantle of being the Leftist opposition. That's my take on them from the occassional glance at their website, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted December 3, 2014 It appears the news that Russia are no longer the good guys has been completely missed by the people at wsws, if I read their article on some Russian sabre rattling. From what I can gather, this guys are hardcore Trotskyists so they disown Stalin as a "reactionary." Weirdly, they do seem to have some kind of soft spot for Putin though, even though he is running an oligarchy. I guess they just despise NATO more than they do capitalist, Mafia-run Russia for some reason. Interestingly, they feel they are the only true left. All other groups, whether they be hardliners like Socialist Alliance or moderates like the Labour Party, Greens and trade unionists, are all the "pseudo-left" to these guys because they are either prepared to work within the system or have been distracted from economic issues by identity politics. Hence, only Trotskyists like themselves are the true inheritors of the mantle of being the Leftist opposition. That's my take on them from the occassional glance at their website, anyway. I've never been good at ideology, although I gladly admit to being a lefty of the anarchist side. When I was at uni I did some subversive stuff with friends of the Dutch CP, but I didn't quite share their religion. When it became clear to me that the Soviet Union wasn't much better under Brezhnev than under Stalin, even if less genocidal, that friendship soon wilted, although I remained a subscriber to De Waarheid well into the eighties. I see commie jargon hasn't changed much, although I miss jewels like the antagonistic struggle in the Western metropoles, so loved by our German comerades. I well remember the ideologic sectarian strife in the left part of politics. There's a nice part in Python's Life of Brian that illustrates it nicely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE regards, Hein 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted December 3, 2014 It appears the news that Russia are no longer the good guys has been completely missed by the people at wsws, if I read their article on some Russian sabre rattling. From what I can gather, this guys are hardcore Trotskyists so they disown Stalin as a "reactionary." Weirdly, they do seem to have some kind of soft spot for Putin though, even though he is running an oligarchy. I guess they just despise NATO more than they do capitalist, Mafia-run Russia for some reason. Interestingly, they feel they are the only true left. All other groups, whether they be hardliners like Socialist Alliance or moderates like the Labour Party, Greens and trade unionists, are all the "pseudo-left" to these guys because they are either prepared to work within the system or have been distracted from economic issues by identity politics. Hence, only Trotskyists like themselves are the true inheritors of the mantle of being the Leftist opposition. That's my take on them from the occassional glance at their website, anyway. I've never been good at ideology, although I gladly admit to being a lefty of the anarchist side. When I was at uni I did some subversive stuff with friends of the Dutch CP, but I didn't quite share their religion. When it became clear to me that the Soviet Union wasn't much better under Brezhnev than under Stalin, even if less genocidal, that friendship soon wilted, although I remained a subscriber to De Waarheid well into the eighties. I see commie jargon hasn't changed much, although I miss jewels like the antagonistic struggle in the Western metropoles, so loved by our German comerades. I well remember the ideologic sectarian strife in the left part of politics. There's a nice part in Python's Life of Brian that illustrates it nicely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE regards, Hein I am not political at all but at uni, we were of course exposed to a lot of contemporary Marxists like Fredric Jameson and also the ol' Frankfurt School. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites