maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted October 10 23 hours ago, The Old Crem said: I imagine it did but hopefully not too arrogant. Well... According to the Today programme this morning a joke doing the rounds in parliament yesterday was that Kier Starmer might have to declare that result as a gift! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted October 11 On 09/10/2024 at 23:43, Sly Ronnie said: Yeah, only the 160 odd gains to be the largest party and the hope that somehow the Liberal Democrat vote will collapse as well. Other than that, a cinch! Yeah, like that ' far right, racist' party, Reform, got more votes than the Lib Dems and, the Tories, because they are a bit thick, are thinking that a more right wing leader might get all of those ex Tory & Labour voters away from Reform and back to them at the next election. How silly of them, eh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 879 Posted October 12 9 hours ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: Yeah, like that ' far right, racist' party, Reform, got more votes than the Lib Dems and, the Tories, because they are a bit thick, are thinking that a more right wing leader might get all of those ex Tory & Labour voters away from Reform and back to them at the next election. How silly of them, eh! Yeah, they may even get far enough to get your vote, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted October 12 7 hours ago, Sly Ronnie said: Yeah, they may even get far enough to get your vote, eh? Full of assumptions as well as absolute bollocks, aren't you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 879 Posted October 12 32 minutes ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: Full of assumptions as well as absolute bollocks, aren't you. I'm going to choose the sensible option and not rise to the very obvious bait you have been dangling, much like the rest of this forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted October 12 Bait? Having a different opinion and being constructively critical of other opinions is ' bait', is it? Grow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted October 12 Keir Starmer and Ed Davey will be delighted if this happens. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted October 14 On 12/10/2024 at 21:48, The Old Crem said: Keir Starmer and Ed Davey will be delighted if this happens. Starmer would be doing himself a favour to declare it as a gift! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viceroy 13 Posted October 17 I voted Tory for the first time in 2017 and 2019 and won't be doing so again - voted Ukip in 2015 & Reform in 2024, before that was too young to vote. The Tories talk a good game all the time, but do the polar opposite of what they promise. Jenrick or Badenoch, who cares? Appalling party that needs to die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 445 Posted October 18 Must feel weird to be a Tory party member now with the lack of media coverage this election is getting. While the Yanks are off electing the head of the free world, they'll be stuck electing who the next 'pointless answer' will be in a BBC teatime game show. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AstroKat 528 Posted October 18 17 minutes ago, Sod's Law said: Must feel weird to be a Tory party member now with the lack of media coverage this election is getting. While the Yanks are off electing the head of the free world, they'll be stuck electing who the next 'pointless answer' will be in a BBC teatime game show. There's an article on the BBC news site that goes some way to explaining why we aren't seeing leaders debates or too many interviews with both Badenoch & Jenrick. It boils down to the Conservative party insisting on studio audiences being wholly made up of party members. It also mentions that Jenrick seems to be agreeing to any press events while Badenoch seems to be using the above rule to avoid them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevy3jd42x8o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 445 Posted October 18 8 minutes ago, AstroKat said: There's an article on the BBC news site that goes some way to explaining why we aren't seeing leaders debates or too many interviews with both Badenoch & Jenrick. It boils down to the Conservative party insisting on studio audiences being wholly made up of party members. It also mentions that Jenrick seems to be agreeing to any press events while Badenoch seems to be using the above rule to avoid them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevy3jd42x8o Not surprising. Jenrick probably feels like king of the world any time anyone actually remembers who he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 18 Does anyone think either of them will still be party leader at the next election in 5 years time? I'd argue there's been far too much coverage of something that probably matters little to anyone except tory party members. There's really little hard news about with the sad exception of the middle east. The rest is conjecture about either what's coming down the line in the budget or which way the american election will go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted October 20 On 18/10/2024 at 15:43, En Passant said: Does anyone think either of them will still be party leader at the next election in 5 years time? I'd argue there's been far too much coverage of something that probably matters little to anyone except tory party members. There's really little hard news about with the sad exception of the middle east. The rest is conjecture about either what's coming down the line in the budget or which way the american election will go. It’s hard to tell. The current poor polling for Labour probably means the Tory leader is seen as doing good even on 30%. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 445 Posted October 20 2 hours ago, The Old Crem said: It’s hard to tell. The current poor polling for Labour probably means the Tory leader is seen as doing good even on 30%. Still vying for John Curtis's job, I see... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted October 22 Braverman backs Jenrick. Guess that means if he wins she will be back a shadow minister. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted October 23 Does the Goverment want to become the most unpopular in history. There are signs already it could get some very low approval ratings in a year or two if things carry on as there are. Even things not directly decided by the Government will contribute to the feeling of the Government being unable to do anything popular. See this for an example. https://news.sky.com/story/pioneering-alzheimers-drug-rejected-for-widespread-use-in-nhs-in-england-13239378 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted October 24 David Blunektt criticising Rachel Reeves - Labour infighting starting before the budget. https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2024/10/blunkett-warns-reeves-against-pensions-tax-raid/ https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-gives-major-hint-33966626 Keir Starmer talking about Cheques when people don’t really use them anymore made me lau Ans anyway the goruo that do are re probably mostly people who seem to be very very hostile towards the Government at the moment (Obviously background related but I know a lot of relatives who hate Starmer but never really knew anyone in my family who actually hated the Tories) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted October 25 BBC now pre confirming parts of the budget just feels a bit odd. I don’t understand business or economics at all to comment on the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,131 Posted October 25 33 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: I don’t understand business or economics at all to comment on the story. Thank fuck for that. Now apply that principle to everything else. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted October 28 What’s the quickest a new Goverment has fallen below 25% in the polls. It’s inevitably going to happen considering it’s probably going to be a very very unpopular budget which has already two days before been condemned by every single newspaper left and right over some part or another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted October 29 This could be a resignation issue for Starmer. https://order-order.com/2024/10/29/southport-killer-downloaded-al-quaeda-manual/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,571 Posted October 30 16 hours ago, The Old Crem said: This could be a resignation issue for Starmer. https://order-order.com/2024/10/29/southport-killer-downloaded-al-quaeda-manual/ I do not see why. As a former director of Public Prosecutions he would understand that speculation is not the same as evidence. This information has come out via the investigating police force. It does not vindicate the actions of the 'protesters' who were still acting on incorrect information - he was not an asylum seeker. Whilst he has been charged with Terrorism offences, the attack on the day has not yet (according to the last report I saw) been declared a Terrorism incident If he has lied about it then possibly but if he has followed due process than no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Bibliogryphon said: I do not see why. Nor does anyone except Mr Doom and Gloom pessimist is my middle name. Speculation again, and it's exactly the same in the Yank Election thread with 'gut feeling' and other emotive bullshit. The laugh is, it's not just here, it's goaded on by news media of all flavours who also have nothing substantial so they print supposition because it's all they have and they need an income. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
