Political Discussions And Ranting Thread

[En Passant 3,743]

 

 

 

 

Edit: Contrary to what those on the right (yes including you MyMango) may think, I do understand that many voted on the basis that they always voted Republican in the name of Small State and low taxes and not necessarily for the man. Also that the economy actually did better in his previous term than the succeeding democrats (though that is probably more chance than anything active). Even that his trade protectionism may be good for American jobs in the short term.

 

I still do not understand how anyone could vote for that abhorrent excuse for a human, except possibly because he was the only man in the race - which is I suppose a reason, albeit a rubbish one.

 

 

 

[The Old Crem 3,608]

The Farmer’s protest seems to be the first time a lot of celebrities are willing to be vocal for more right wing views on social media.  Opinion polling shows the public support the protestors because as is always the case Inheritance Tax is deeply unpopular whenever it is surveyed 

[Grim Up North 3,727]

On 14/11/2024 at 11:06, En Passant said:

Also that the economy actually did better in his previous term than the succeeding democrats (though that is probably more chance than anything active).

I wonder across the western/democratic world how many people who were leaders during covid managed to get re-elected?

 

Not just covid but also global fuel rises and inflation hitting people in the pockets.

[Toast 16,155]

Re the inheritance tax on farms. 

I imagine what the government is trying to do is catch the billionaires who have bought up farmland as a tax-avoiding measure.  But setting the bar at £1m is way too low.

Similar mistake they made with the winter fuel payment - too many of the less well-off caught in the net.

[The Old Crem 3,608]

32 minutes ago, Toast said:

Re the inheritance tax on farms. 

I imagine what the government is trying to do is catch the billionaires who have bought up farmland as a tax-avoiding measure.  But setting the bar at £1m is way too low.

Similar mistake they made with the winter fuel payment - too many of the less well-off caught in the net.

I wonder if they should have done something that put the bar a lot higher for those whose ancestors have owned or worked that land as well  So the traditional farming communities and what the public think when they think of a farmer are not affected by it. 

[maryportfuncity 10,658]

Rachel Reeves is trying to get inflation down

 

But it appears some achievements on her CV were inflated, expect the Daily Mail to go hog wild on this sporadically for as long as she's chancellor 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy12820kwwo

[Brad252 807]

1 hour ago, maryportfuncity said:

Rachel Reeves is trying to get inflation down

 

But it appears some achievements on her CV were inflated, expect the Daily Mail to go hog wild on this sporadically for as long as she's chancellor 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy12820kwwo

As if nobody has lied on or greatly exaggerated parts of their CV before. The arising of this story suggests they've run out of government news to attack and now have to go for relatively minor things about specific MPs. This was essentially the crux of beer gate.

[The Old Crem 3,608]

4 hours ago, maryportfuncity said:

Rachel Reeves is trying to get inflation down

 

But it appears some achievements on her CV were inflated, expect the Daily Mail to go hog wild on this sporadically for as long as she's chancellor 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy12820kwwo

It all feels like Starmer will be a one term PM before the Tories or even Reform take power in 2029. 

[maryportfuncity 10,658]

3 hours ago, Brad252 said:

As if nobody has lied on or greatly exaggerated parts of their CV before. The arising of this story suggests they've run out of government news to attack and now have to go for relatively minor things about specific MPs. This was essentially the crux of beer gate.

 

 

Yeah, but...

 

[maryportfuncity 10,658]

Daily Mail meltdown on a massive scale - suggesting Ed Miliband is coming for our wives!!!

 

[Ulitzer95 12,661]

[The Old Crem 3,608]

Think no will win by a fair bigger margin than that. 

[The Old Crem 3,608]

On 19/11/2024 at 12:54, The Old Crem said:

The Farmer’s protest seems to be the first time a lot of celebrities are willing to be vocal for more right wing views on social media.  Opinion polling shows the public support the protestors because as is always the case Inheritance Tax is deeply unpopular whenever it is surveyed 

And now the Call an Election petion is going viral with footballers etc posting it.

 

As I have said before I think there is a chance Reform win the 2029 election due the Tories failing to regain their popularity and Labour losing it rapidly. 

[JQW 283]

I know I've got him blocked, but he's shilling for fascists again, isn't he?

[prussianblue 1,038]

1 hour ago, JQW said:

I know I've got him blocked, but he's shilling for fascists again, isn't he?

 

How did you guess? 

[The Old Crem 3,608]

 

The Daily Express starting this up is a clever way to attack to the struggling Government actually. 
 

 

 

[maryportfuncity 10,658]

6 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

 

The Daily Express starting this up is a clever way to attack to the struggling Government actually. 
 

 

 

 

 

The Sunday Express a couple of days back ran a long piece by Nadine Dories suggesting the best hope for a quick Tory comeback was to get Boris back in parliament and back as leader

 

The Express - as I keep mentioning - has lost approximately 90% of its readers in a little over 30 years. 

[Brad252 807]

David Cameron has said he supports the Assisted Dying Bill. Going by history this means the bill likely will fail as a result.

 

Ex-prime minister David Cameron backs assisted dying bill - BBC News

[Bentrovato 1,089]

1 hour ago, Brad252 said:

David Cameron has said he supports the Assisted Dying Bill. Going by history this means the bill likely will fail as a result.

 

Ex-prime minister David Cameron backs assisted dying bill - BBC News

Or he is bored waiting to inherit. Are his parents or his wife's parents still alive and loaded and refusing to go?

[The Old Crem 3,608]

Dame Andrea Jenkyns has switched to Reform and is going to be their candidate for Lincolnshire mayor which was tipped a while ago as a mayoralty that Reform could win based on the demographics of the area and their election results there in July. 

[Toast 16,155]

2 hours ago, Bentrovato said:

Or he is bored waiting to inherit. Are his parents or his wife's parents still alive and loaded and refusing to go?

 

His pa died in 2010.  His ma is still alive but handed the family home over to DC's elder brother.  I imagine they gave everything away in time to avoid inheritance tax.

The brother died last year, so I'm not sure what the situation is now. He was married with two children.  There are a couple of sisters in the mix too.

I will make some enquiries as I know people who know them.

[Brad252 807]

2 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

Dame Andrea Jenkyns...

Made a Dame for services to flipping birds.

[The Old Crem 3,608]

 

[The Old Crem 3,608]

Louise Haigh resigns as Transport secretary. Lots of speculation that Starmer and McSwenney will be happy to get one of the most left members of the cabinet gome - afterall Starmer has known the facts since 2020.

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The euthanasia second reading passed with a majority of 55 despite projections from the forum Nostradamus.