rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted September 26, 2016 Deselection will not impact this game as they are selecting the candidate for the next election.True. Although they could resign and stand as an independent if they think the gamble was worth it ie nothing to lose ultimately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,589 Posted September 26, 2016 Deselection will not impact this game as they are selecting the candidate for the next election.True. Although they could resign and stand as an independent if they think the gamble was worth it ie nothing to lose ultimately.There is nothing to stop them leaving the party but keeping the seat. What Douglas Carswell and Mark Reckless did was to cause disruption. It is convention that you resign on switching parties rather than the requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,480 Posted September 26, 2016 Shaun Woodward didn't. There is a Wiki list of politicians who "crossed the floor" but its badly written as they've included folk who had the whip removed from them for stuff like Nadine Dorries. Quentin Davies jumped from Tory to Labour in 2007 and didn't resign either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted September 26, 2016 Deselection will not impact this game as they are selecting the candidate for the next election.True. Although they could resign and stand as an independent if they think the gamble was worth it ie nothing to lose ultimately.There is nothing to stop them leaving the party but keeping the seat. What Douglas Carswell and Mark Reckless did was to cause disruption. It is convention that you resign on switching parties rather than the requirement.Again true. It was the disruption element I was thinking of. It's one thing having a base of local activists who influence candidate selection and another to select someone who the electorate will vote for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,589 Posted September 26, 2016 Shaun Woodward didn't. There is a Wiki list of politicians who "crossed the floor" but its badly written as they've included folk who had the whip removed from them for stuff like Nadine Dorries. Quentin Davies jumped from Tory to Labour in 2007 and didn't resign either. and Shaun Woodward was MP for Whitny which is the only way they would ever get a Labour MP. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,480 Posted September 26, 2016 Shaun Woodward didn't. There is a Wiki list of politicians who "crossed the floor" but its badly written as they've included folk who had the whip removed from them for stuff like Nadine Dorries. Quentin Davies jumped from Tory to Labour in 2007 and didn't resign either. and Shaun Woodward was MP for Whitny which is the only way they would ever get a Labour MP. It was Shaun Woodward - even then, it's still debatable! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted September 26, 2016 Shaun Woodward didn't. There is a Wiki list of politicians who "crossed the floor" but its badly written as they've included folk who had the whip removed from them for stuff like Nadine Dorries. Quentin Davies jumped from Tory to Labour in 2007 and didn't resign either. and Shaun Woodward was MP for Whitny which is the only way they would ever get a Labour MP. Was he MP for Whitney because he thought she would always love him? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,480 Posted September 26, 2016 Shaun Woodward didn't. There is a Wiki list of politicians who "crossed the floor" but its badly written as they've included folk who had the whip removed from them for stuff like Nadine Dorries. Quentin Davies jumped from Tory to Labour in 2007 and didn't resign either. and Shaun Woodward was MP for Whitny which is the only way they would ever get a Labour MP. Was he MP for Whitney because he thought she would always love him? Nah, he wanna dance with somebody. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted September 26, 2016 So, rule wise, if a Labour MP jumps and decides the "Socialism" announcement today gives him/her a chance of getting back in against an official Labour candidate and then this bet pays off and they come back... Does it still core in By-Election Bingo or do we count that as continued service because they were never officially replaced? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,589 Posted September 26, 2016 So, rule wise, if a Labour MP jumps and decides the "Socialism" announcement today gives him/her a chance of getting back in against an official Labour candidate and then this bet pays off and they come back... Does it still core in By-Election Bingo or do we count that as continued service because they were never officially replaced? If they resign as an MP thereby triggering a by-election you get 10 points if they are reelected as an independent then that is halved to 5. If Labour held the seat you keep all 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted September 27, 2016 So, rule wise, if a Labour MP jumps and decides the "Socialism" announcement today gives him/her a chance of getting back in against an official Labour candidate and then this bet pays off and they come back... Does it still core in By-Election Bingo or do we count that as continued service because they were never officially replaced? If they resign as an MP thereby triggering a by-election you get 10 points if they are reelected as an independent then that is halved to 5. If Labour held the seat you keep all 10. Cheers I could have - like - found the appropriate post, but appreciate you making that clear. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted October 5, 2016 Not sure what UKIP Diane James 'standing down' means but it sure has By-Election Bingo stank all over it. SC http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37558485 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,589 Posted October 6, 2016 Not sure what UKIP Diane James 'standing down' means but it sure has By-Election Bingo stank all over it. SC http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37558485 Fraid not James is an MEP and still will be.UKIP only have one MP - Douglas Carswell. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,589 Posted October 18, 2016 Zac Goldsmith may still come up for the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted October 18, 2016 Zac Goldsmith may still come up for the game. On my team Bring it on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,589 Posted October 18, 2016 Zac Goldsmith may still come up for the game. On my team Bring it on! If he stands in the by-election and wins you only get half points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted October 18, 2016 Zac Goldsmith may still come up for the game. On my team Bring it on! If he stands in the by-election and wins you only get half points. Does running on an anti-runway platform mean standing still or going backwards? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted October 18, 2016 Couldn't he have just done a David Davis and stood for the party as an anti-party candidate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,589 Posted October 18, 2016 Two by-elections this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted October 25, 2016 Zac Goldsmith may still come up for the game. On my team Bring it on! If he stands in the by-election and wins you only get half points. Does running on an anti-runway platform mean standing still or going backwards? Zac Goldsmith quits as Tory MP for Richmond Park over Heathrow airport expansion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,480 Posted October 25, 2016 Goldsmith's going, that's finally points on the board for me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted October 25, 2016 Actually starting to get excited! If I'm right (and I'm pretty sure I am), while Mr Goldsmith's principled stand is points for about 8 people, none of Rockhopper, Young Maryport or The Engineer picked him so...I'm winning?! Sure, it won't last, but we're 18 months in nearly now and I'm winning a deadpool (that's not really about death but still...) Apologies by my (probably not-that-missed) absence, I have recently (September) started teacher training and it's rather demanding. I still check in periodically (particularly when I have points to check!) but don't contribute so often at the moment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted October 25, 2016 Actually starting to get excited! If I'm right (and I'm pretty sure I am), while Mr Goldsmith's principled stand is points for about 8 people, none of Rockhopper, Young Maryport or The Engineer picked him so...I'm winning?! Sure, it won't last, but we're 18 months in nearly now and I'm winning a deadpool (that's not really about death but still...) Apologies by my (probably not-that-missed) absence, I have recently (September) started teacher training and it's rather demanding. I still check in periodically (particularly when I have points to check!) but don't contribute so often at the moment. Yeah, principled politician, who'd have thought it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted October 25, 2016 Actually starting to get excited! If I'm right (and I'm pretty sure I am), while Mr Goldsmith's principled stand is points for about 8 people, none of Rockhopper, Young Maryport or The Engineer picked him so...I'm winning?! Sure, it won't last, but we're 18 months in nearly now and I'm winning a deadpool (that's not really about death but still...) Apologies by my (probably not-that-missed) absence, I have recently (September) started teacher training and it's rather demanding. I still check in periodically (particularly when I have points to check!) but don't contribute so often at the moment. Young Maryport has Simon Danczuk - or however you spell it - I keep thinking he's one more meltdown away from forced de-selection, or summat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,589 Posted October 26, 2016 Goldsmith will be only worth 5 points initially. if he loses the by-election you get the other 5 but if he wins he stays in play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites