Deadpool Detective Work

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

1 minute ago, tracy said:

 

Unfortunately, for recent deaths, probably not. In the automatically generated "personal profile summary" on each page, there's a question that says "is (name) still alive?". Older deaths will read "no, (name) is no longer alive and passed away in (date)". The pages for Reynolds and Garbo still read "yes, (X) is alive" even though they're marked as dead, which suggests they don't have a date yet.

I've noticed it's not always updated for each individual either. Jazz musician Boomie Richardson (b. 1921, wiki) died in 2016. His son mentioned it briefly in passing somewhere on Facebook. No obit was ever published so I've been unable to update his page. His real name was Abraham Samuel Richman. SPF says he's still alive, but I know that's not true.

[tracy 2,420]

Boomie is also still alive on FamilyTreeNow and other sites, so that doesn't surprise me.

 

Here, have his mylife record: 

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

Thanks for this tracy.

One more for you please (my browser won't let me access MyLife in the UK!).

Grammy Award winning music producer Sonny Lester (b. 1924, wiki), real name Sumner Lester, died in April 2018 in Florida according to now reverted edits to his Wiki page by his son Danny.

Can you please see if there's a record of this anywhere?

[tracy 2,420]

Sure. Here's his page. Exact match for his son's edits.

[Gisooo 3,380]

On 15/03/2021 at 15:44, Ulitzer95 said:

4) Don Kennedy (IMDb) actor – also known Derrick Slaugenhaupt (yeah no wonder he changed it) and still living in Pennsylvania in 2020 according to residency records! Often confused with another actor called Don Kennedy (b. 1930) who is also still living. Their info on IMDb is all muddled together to add to the confusion.

 

Strangely, his page is updated, died on October 30, 1991 aged 71 ???

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

44 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

 

Strangely, his page is updated, died on October 30, 1991 aged 71 ???

Urgh, WTAF. I’ll look into this when I get home. I wish IMDb would list their sources and evidence in the bios when they add these dates. It would be a lot easier for us to trust them.

[Toast 16,155]

Any detectives fancy having a go at establishing this dude's actual relationship to Camilla?

(clue: he's not her second cousin)

 

 

[msc 18,480]

10 minutes ago, Toast said:

Any detectives fancy having a go at establishing this dude's actual relationship to Camilla?

(clue: he's not her second cousin)

 

 

 

I did actually give this a shot earlier but got to the Victorian era without finding the link and gave up. Distant, distant cousins by looks of it.

[msc 18,480]

The Keppels are all related. When Judith Keppel won Millionaire, the press ran stories about her being a third cousin of Camilla. Judith Keppel pointed out that she'd never met the woman in her life (to that point). 

 

George Thomas Keppell (Earl of Albemarle)
1799-1891

Father of
William Courts Keppel 1832-1894
Father of
George Keppel 1865-1947
Father of
Sonia Keppel 1900-1986
Mother of 
Rosalind Maud Cubitt 1921-1994
Mother of
Camilla 1947-present

Also
Father of
William Courts Keppel
father of 
Arnold ALlen Cecil Keppell 1858-1942
father of
Walter Egerton Lucian Keppell 1882-1979
father of
Derek William Keppel 1911-68
father of 
Elizabeth Keppell 1941-2014
mother of
Charles Villier 1963-2022

 

So Camilla and this dead chap share the same great-great-great grandfather. Though Camilla was an older generation so it was only her great-great grandfather.

 

That was too much research for so uninteresting a person!

[Toast 16,155]

Well done!    So according to the "cousin calculator" they are third cousins once removed.

 

The "removed" bit tends to confuse people. It means that the two people concerned are from different generations. 

So once removed denotes a generation apart, twice removed is two generations, etc. 

Your grandmother's first cousin is your first cousin twice removed, your father's first cousin once removed and your child's first cousin three times removed.

 

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

 @tracy, is there anything on MyLife for American mobster Lawrence Dentico (wiki)?

Someone claiming to be one of his children edited the page a few years back to say he died on March 29, 2018 (aged 94). No obit ever surfaced.

[tracy 2,420]

4 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

 @tracy, is there anything on MyLife for American mobster Lawrence Dentico (wiki)?

 

Nope. He has a page, of course, but there's no indication on it that he's dead. The edit looks plausible, so it's likely just a rare miss.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

8 hours ago, Gisooo said:

 

Strangely, his page is updated, died on October 30, 1991 aged 71 ???

Ok, I checked on Ancestry. The man who died on Oct 30, 1991 was a Donald Jay Kennedy, but he was born on Jun 24, 1919. He was born in Minnesota, died in Minnesota, had a career in the army. Had absolutely nothing to do with acting whatsoever.

Honestly, is it any wonder why IMDb isn't considered a reliable source anywhere else? They refuse countless contributions from me when I send them obituaries of actors or newspaper clippings as concrete evidence, and yet they accept really dodgy submissions elsewhere. Clearly someone just Google "Don Kennedy died", found a date, gave it to them, and they accepted it. They're fucking idiots.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

. @Gisooo, ok I've solved Don Kennedy (wiki), finally.

Found him on Ancestry. Definitely him. He was born Donald Frederick Kennedy on Sep 3, 1921 in Los Angeles, California. He died in 2013–2015 in California (possibly San Diego/Del Mar?). I cannot find a full date of death sadly, but I have strong enough evidence to submit to IMDb and get his whole profile updated. I'll upload it all here another day when I get time.

Edit: Died 3 April 2013, aged 91, in Del Mar, CA.

[Bibliogryphon 9,588]

On 26/08/2022 at 18:23, msc said:

The Keppels are all related. When Judith Keppel won Millionaire, the press ran stories about her being a third cousin of Camilla. Judith Keppel pointed out that she'd never met the woman in her life (to that point). 

 

George Thomas Keppell (Earl of Albemarle)
1799-1891

Father of
William Courts Keppel 1832-1894
Father of
George Keppel 1865-1947
Father of
Sonia Keppel 1900-1986
Mother of 
Rosalind Maud Cubitt 1921-1994
Mother of
Camilla 1947-present

Also
Father of
William Courts Keppel
father of 
Arnold ALlen Cecil Keppell 1858-1942
father of
Walter Egerton Lucian Keppell 1882-1979
father of
Derek William Keppel 1911-68
father of 
Elizabeth Keppell 1941-2014
mother of
Charles Villier 1963-2022

 

So Camilla and this dead chap share the same great-great-great grandfather. Though Camilla was an older generation so it was only her great-great grandfather.

 

That was too much research for so uninteresting a person!

Great work but we probably wouldn't waste the time if A listers ( or people on the DL) were actually turning their toes up.

[Summer in Transylvania 2,190]

This is a long shot, but is Robert Clarke (IMDB) still alive? 

 

He appeared very briefly in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope as Imperial Officer Colonel Wullf Yularen. He is often confused with American actor Robert Clarke (Wikipedia). This is not him. 

 

Clarke has apparently also used the names Robert Carrick and Robin Clarke. 

[Gisooo 3,380]

On 15/03/2021 at 15:44, Ulitzer95 said:

20) Virginia Patton (IMDb) actress – American. Last role was in 1949(!) but hasn't fallen off radar since. Lives in Michigan as Virginia Patton Moss as of 2021. Her husband predeceased her in 2018.

 

On 15/03/2021 at 15:44, Ulitzer95 said:

24) Mildred Kornman (IMDb) actress – One of just three surviving silent film actors. In 2017, her son responded to an autographic hunter saying she was very ill. In Feb 2020, he responded to another saying she could no longer sign anything and had no memory of her time in the film industry.

 

On 15/03/2021 at 15:44, Ulitzer95 said:

27) Barbara Bushman (IMDb) wife – I wouldn't even describe her as an actress because she had one uncredited role in a 1932 film. Married to actor Harry Morgan until his death in 2011. Died Sep 6, 2013 (aged 87) but not yet updated on IMDb.

 

UPDATED

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

42 minutes ago, Summer in Transylvania said:

This is a long shot, but is Robert Clarke (IMDB) still alive? 

 

He appeared very briefly in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope as Imperial Officer Colonel Wullf Yularen.

Given that this is him in the original Star Wars, 45 years ago, what do you think?  

[Summer in Transylvania 2,190]

56 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Given that this is him in the original Star Wars, 45 years ago, what do you think?  

I repeat, this is a long shot. Anyway, this guy's actor died in 2019, so it is (somewhat remotely) possible that there are other cases of actors that looked much older than their years lasting until much more recent times than would be expected based solely off of appearance. 

[Gisooo 3,380]

On 15/03/2021 at 23:44, Ulitzer95 said:

25) Madgel Dean (IMDb) actress – American. Last role was in Cheers in 1986. Living in Encino, California as of 2021 as Madgel Friedman.

 

Another name off radar

 

Madgel Dean died on December 8 2021 at 96, according to Accurint.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

45 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

 

Another name off radar

 

Madgel Dean died on December 8 2021 at 96, according to Accurint.

Thanks. Does it say where?

[Gisooo 3,380]

4 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Thanks. Does it say where?

 

Encino, LA, CA

[Gisooo 3,380]

On 15/03/2021 at 23:44, Ulitzer95 said:

62) Grayce Grant (IMDb) actress – American. Appeared in television roles only, between 1971 and 1982, including a recurring nurse in Dynasty. At one time married to actor Richard Venture (1923–2017). Lives in Sarasota, Florida as of 2021 as Grayce Grant Venture

 

Grayce Grant died on November 25, 2021 in Sarasota, Florida.

 

[Gisooo 3,380]

On 15/03/2021 at 23:44, Ulitzer95 said:

5) Bill Fletcher (IMDb) actor – tricky one indeed. Not helped by the fact that IMDb doesn't list a full DOB, so he can't be tracked in records. Appeared in loads of U.S. TV series between 1951 and 1983

 

Grayce Grant updated 

 

Bill Fletcher is also updated. Looks like he died on August 29, 2013!?

[tracy 2,420]

33 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

Bill Fletcher is also updated. Looks like he died on August 29, 2013!?

 

I highly doubt it.

 

"William Harry Fletcher, age 90, died Thursday, August 29, 2013. He was born December 20, 1922 in Columbus, Ohio to the late Harry and Exie (Moulton) Fletcher. He was a 1940 graduate of North High School and was a 50 year member of New England Lodge #4 F&AM and Past Patron of Worthington Chapter #287 O.E.S. Bill retired from the Ohio Insurance Institute and was a faithful member of the Old North High Club."

 

Does this sound like an actor to you? More than likely an IMDb editor just grabbed the death date of a random 1922-born William Fletcher without doing any research.