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He's a gold medal boxer I'm not concerned about an obit. You can change people midstream? I gotta learn rules of all these DPs, someone should post them all in one link called DL Rules or summat.

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He's a gold medal boxer I'm not concerned about an obit. You can change people midstream? I gotta learn rules of all these DPs, someone should post them all in one link called DL Rules or summat.

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No, but the game does start afresh on January 1st, so thoughts do move towards the 2016 team.

 

DDP - 20 names (plus 3 subs in case any die before 1st January), no changes throughout the year, picks need to have a mention as having died on one of about 20 obit sources. From loose memory, the American stars who don't get obits here tend to struggle to get them in the US too, but that's not a fast rule.

 

Deathrace - 20 names, if a pick dies on January 1st its 365 points, January 2nd 364 etc etc. First team to 2016 next year wins. MPFC runs it, and likes a swift fast winner, so will accept nearly any obit known to man, even a mention in passing in the horoscope section of an US newspaper. As reigning champion (somehow), I picked up points from the translation of a French parish newsletter. No changes as the game is expected to end ASAP.

 

Hares Pool - Deathray's game (in which you pick 25 celebs), much like the Deathrace but reverse. So you want to pick lingerers who might snuff it in December 2016.

 

Death by Years - Shauns game, you play this.

 

Hartlepool Deadlypool - Haven't a bloody clue. I just pick ten famous names each year and hope for the best!

 

Inverse Deadpool - Formerly run by Spade, it starts in mid-January when the Deathlist 50 and the Drop 40 (most popular picks on 2016's Derby Dead Pool) are known. You pick the 25 people on each you think will definitely not die, and were stupid picks. Then if they die, you lose points. The person with 0, or the closes to a positive score, wins.

 

That's the main ones (the DDP and the forum games) I play anyhow.

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There's also the Rotten Dead Pool, in which you pick ten people from those listed on their website. It's US based, which can make it frustrating for us Europeans as it often omits prominent European personalities. They claim to be open to suggestions, but I've never had any luck with that.

 

You can start your dead pool game any time as a new game starts every month, and it runs for a year.

You can also make changes to your team any time during the first month of play.

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He's a gold medal boxer I'm not concerned about an obit. You can change people midstream? I gotta learn rules of all these DPs, someone should post them all in one link called DL Rules or summat.

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No, but the game does start afresh on January 1st, so thoughts do move towards the 2016 team.

 

DDP - 20 names (plus 3 subs in case any die before 1st January), no changes throughout the year, picks need to have a mention as having died on one of about 20 obit sources. From loose memory, the American stars who don't get obits here tend to struggle to get them in the US too, but that's not a fast rule.

 

Deathrace - 20 names, if a pick dies on January 1st its 365 points, January 2nd 364 etc etc. First team to 2016 next year wins. MPFC runs it, and likes a swift fast winner, so will accept nearly any obit known to man, even a mention in passing in the horoscope section of an US newspaper. As reigning champion (somehow), I picked up points from the translation of a French parish newsletter. No changes as the game is expected to end ASAP.

 

Hares Pool - Deathray's game (in which you pick 25 celebs), much like the Deathrace but reverse. So you want to pick lingerers who might snuff it in December 2016.

 

Death by Years - Shauns game, you play this.

 

Hartlepool Deadlypool - Haven't a bloody clue. I just pick ten famous names each year and hope for the best!

 

Inverse Deadpool - Formerly run by Spade, it starts in mid-January when the Deathlist 50 and the Drop 40 (most popular picks on 2016's Derby Dead Pool) are known. You pick the 25 people on each you think will definitely not die, and were stupid picks. Then if they die, you lose points. The person with 0, or the closes to a positive score, wins.

 

That's the main ones (the DDP and the forum games) I play anyhow.

You should repost this in HowTo this is gold! Much thanks!

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He's a gold medal boxer I'm not concerned about an obit. You can change people midstream? I gotta learn rules of all these DPs, someone should post them all in one link called DL Rules or summat.

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No, but the game does start afresh on January 1st, so thoughts do move towards the 2016 team.

 

DDP - 20 names (plus 3 subs in case any die before 1st January), no changes throughout the year, picks need to have a mention as having died on one of about 20 obit sources. From loose memory, the American stars who don't get obits here tend to struggle to get them in the US too, but that's not a fast rule.

 

Deathrace - 20 names, if a pick dies on January 1st its 365 points, January 2nd 364 etc etc. First team to 2016 next year wins. MPFC runs it, and likes a swift fast winner, so will accept nearly any obit known to man, even a mention in passing in the horoscope section of an US newspaper. As reigning champion (somehow), I picked up points from the translation of a French parish newsletter. No changes as the game is expected to end ASAP.

 

Hares Pool - Deathray's game (in which you pick 25 celebs), much like the Deathrace but reverse. So you want to pick lingerers who might snuff it in December 2016.

 

Death by Years - Shauns game, you play this.

 

Hartlepool Deadlypool - Haven't a bloody clue. I just pick ten famous names each year and hope for the best!

 

Inverse Deadpool - Formerly run by Spade, it starts in mid-January when the Deathlist 50 and the Drop 40 (most popular picks on 2016's Derby Dead Pool) are known. You pick the 25 people on each you think will definitely not die, and were stupid picks. Then if they die, you lose points. The person with 0, or the closes to a positive score, wins.

 

That's the main ones (the DDP and the forum games) I play anyhow.

You should repost this in HowTo this is gold! Much thanks!

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Actually it's worth a pinned thread of its own, IMO. Details of new games can be added as and when, and we would have them all together as a useful reference point.

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Thanks all! True enough sometimes the rules are (basically) the first post or two, sometimes not so much, and then some games get lost onto page two etc etc. Super to see them in one location, certainly easier to give it a go.
The question arose in my head simply thinking 'well why wouldn't I have the same list for every game?' And figuring there were logical reasons why.

Again, gracias.
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Rules and scoring for the Hartlepool Deadlypool

Points are scored according to the following highly complex scoring system:

Competitors are awarded points according to the order in which their candidates die.
The starting positions are as follows:

  • Candidate 1: 50 points

  • Candidate 2: 45 points

  • Candidate 3: 40 points

  • Candidate 4: 35 points

  • Candidate 5: 30 points

  • Candidate 6: 25 points

  • Candidate 7: 20 points

  • Candidate 8: 15 points

  • Candidate 9: 10 points

  • Candidate 10: 5 points

When the first candidate dies, points will be awarded as above, and the remaining potential scores will slide up or down one position. If candidate 1 dies first, the team gets 50 points and the points below all increase by 5, so candidate 2 will get 50 points if he or she is the next to go.
If a celebrity departs further down the list before the ones above are gone, the scores above are reduced by 5, causing the highest remaining score on the list to disappear. Those below will increase by 5 as before.
This will often cause two celebrities to have the same number of points next to their names, but the order in which they die will still influence subsequent scores.
The Bonus System:

Candidate not picked by any other competitor +2
Candidate under 18 years old -2
25th or less in line to the throne of Belgium, The Netherlands, Sweden or Denmark +2
Been on Celebrity Squares (or Hollywood Squares)+3
Death of candidate in spite of extremely high improbability or unlikeliness of same. +5
US Baseball or Basketball player -3
Former or present UK Prime Minister +3
Drummer +2
Incumbent or recent US president +3
Guilty (in Notapotato's opinion) of crimes against humanity +3
Both of the above +6
Has played in a pantomime+2
Has performed Morris dancing +3
Found dead in a Swimming Pool +3
Died in a farming or gardening accident +2
Death worthy of a Darwin Award +2
Murder, Suicide, Lightning +2
Dies on Notapotato's birthday (16th of May) +2
Death by Fire +2
Death by Water +2
Death by Bongo +6

The bonus is calculated according to the following simple formula:
bonus x (score gained from death divided by 5)

Multiple bonuses multiply so a bonus of 3 and a bonus of 2 give together a bonus of 6. This makes negative bonuses extremely unattractive. This is also the reason why some bonuses have been increased this year, because 2*2 is the same as 2+2.

So a bonus of 2 on a score of 40 gives you 2*(40/5)=16

Additionally there will be a bonus of 50 points for coming in in 13th place in the Hartlepool Deadlypool. Unless there are only 13 or fewer entries. then there won't be.
Nothing could be simpler.
Oh yes, and there's an extra bonus of unspecified size payable on the first hit of the team which has the most interesting and unusual selection of celebrities.

 

1. Dead means dead. No longer living:

A bit like William Holden who having just been fished out of Gloria Swanson's swimming pool, died drunk and impoverished a mere 31 years later.
Eligible for a death certificate. (A Munchkin is optional but may get a bonus)

2. For the purpose of the game a "celebrity" is someone well-enough known to get their death mentioned in the UK national press or on the BBC news website. Or anywhere else Notapotato's heavily-prejudiced mind considers a reliable, respectable source of international news. In the event of disagreement as to the celebrity of any individual or the validity of an obituary, Notapotato's word is final.

3. Only human beings may be submitted as candidates. Animals may take part in the deathpool, but may be ridiculed for doing so, and may not get any points. Unless they are cats with a long history of doing deathpools. Team names which sound like an animal such as "Donkey from Hell" or "Dead as a Parrot" are allowed, I suppose, but may be ridiculed.

3a. Strictly only one team per participant. The submission of teams in the name of domestic animals in an attempt to circumvent this rule is doomed to failure. And ridicule.

4. If a participant dies during the competition, unlike in some deadpools he doesn't win the competition automatically. He may, however get awarded a few extra points by way of consolation. And next year a bonus will be named after you, perhaps. If you do die during the course of the year, do drop us a line and let us know where you went wrong so others can avoid making the same mistake.

4a. For legal reasons we are unable to actively encourage participants to murder or otherwise accelerate the deaths of their chosen celebrities. There is however no penalty in the Hartlepool Deadlypool for doing so. Your Procurator Fiscal or local alternative may see this differently though, so we reccommend asking beforehand.

5. Anyone selecting tender-aged sufferers of terminal diseases or anyone under sentence of death or highly likely to be sentenced to death at the start of the year will be summarily ridiculed and very likely penalised in an arbitrary and unpleasant way should their candidates actually die or be killed.

5a. And you won't be getting the extra bonus points for original and unusual picks if you don't come up with something a bit more original or unusual.

 

All the above subject to corrections and addenda from Notapotato and Rotten Ali.

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Rules and scoring for the Hartlepool Deadlypool

 

 

I remember a chat with NAP in which we discussed the rules. I suggested the Morris dancing bonus. Has it ever been awarded?

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Rules and scoring for the Hartlepool Deadlypool

 

 

I remember a chat with NAP in which we discussed the rules. I suggested the Morris dancing bonus. Has it ever been awarded?

 

 

I don't think so. I do remember some discussion as to whether John Inman had dressed up a Morris dancer in Are You Bing Served but I don't think we ever found proof.

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There was the politico I think that died in the second half of last year that had 'been big' in the old dancing. I saw it in his obit, then when someone had a moan about it in here.

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The Found dead in a Swimming Pool bonus was born in the same chat, in honour of Wim Duisenberg, who was just that half a year earlier. ISTR that one has been awarded.

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Sure we gave points out on the Are You Being Served Morris Dancing scene for Frank Thornton's death.

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Sure we gave points out on the Are You Being Served Morris Dancing scene for Frank Thornton's death.

 

Yes, I was just going to check back on that. I think after due consideration it was allowed as being close enough.

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Sure we gave points out on the Are You Being Served Morris Dancing scene for Frank Thornton's death.

Yes, I was just going to check back on that. I think after due consideration it was allowed as being close enough.

 

 

Indeed.

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As someone who joined the Deathlist properly in 2015 (ostensibly to enter Biblio's By-Election Bingo), having been a casual observer for some years previously, I had neither the time nor the confidence to 1) Find out the rules of all these dead pools and 2) Decide on a list of names to enter into any of them. Having them all in one place should be far more straightforward so I thank Sir Creep for the suggestion and the others for explaining, most notably msc. I shall endeavour to do better and enter at least a few of them in 2017.

 

One question that occurs: do the Shadow Lists count towards anything or are they just to allow us to feel smug if we do better than the committee?

 

Also on a frivolous and totally trivial note, what does DDP stand for? (At a guess the DP is Dead Pool...)

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As someone who joined the Deathlist properly in 2015 (ostensibly to enter Biblio's By-Election Bingo), having been a casual observer for some years previously, I had neither the time nor the confidence to 1) Find out the rules of all these dead pools and 2) Decide on a list of names to enter into any of them. Having them all in one place should be far more straightforward so I thank Sir Creep for the suggestion and the others for explaining, most notably msc. I shall endeavour to do better and enter at least a few of them in 2017.

One question that occurs: do the Shadow Lists count towards anything or are they just to allow us to feel smug if we do better than the committee?

Also on a frivolous and totally trivial note, what does DDP stand for? (At a guess the DP is Dead Pool...)

My shadow list I'm using in Shaun's game, but that's rare. Basically shadow lists are our 'if WE were the committee...' Selections. I think lol.

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Also on a frivolous and totally trivial note, what does DDP stand for? (At a guess the DP is Dead Pool...)

The other D means Derby, as prominently displayed on the website.

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Also on a frivolous and totally trivial note, what does DDP stand for? (At a guess the DP is Dead Pool...)

 

The other D means Derby, as prominently displayed on the website.

Fair enough. In my defence, it was late when I sent that and I was keeping half an eye on what the Americans call 'Football'.

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Whilst I'm sure I've made my opinion of this thread clear in the past (the rules are in the first post of my thread, and I'd expect anybody wishing to enter my game to read them in full I've been asked to put the rules in here following a recent overhaul. So for the incredibly lazy, short attention span newcomers in the future. Here's the March 2015 Hares Death Pool rulebook. Please read the first post of the Hares Death Pool thread anyway if you wish to enter a team, as further clarifications and amendments may be introduced in future without being added here - although I do not expect this to happen unless an actual issue arises.

 

 

 

The Rules (Last updated 6 March 2015)

  • All teams must contain 25 picks. A maximum 5 subs are allowed.
  • All picks must be humans aged over 18 on January 1st of the game year..
  • Death row prisoners only score if they die of other causes, those still on trial will still score points if sentenced to execution after 0000 on January 1st.
  • Celebrities qualify if they achieve an obituary or article about their death in a local, national or even specialist newspaper - the article does not need to specifically relate to their death, instead just mention it and date it. or website/magazine/paper. If in doubt cite your death note for approval. There is absolutely no requirement for obits to be in the English language, however translations should be provided if they are not.
  • Entries must be posted between 0001 on the 1st December and 2359 on December 31st, if a pick dies before 2359 but it's not known until January 1st they may be replaced until 2359 on January 1st provided the replacement hasn't died between 0000 and their addition to the team on January 1st. The Game runner is permitted to enter a team on the express understanding that team is visible prior to the entries opening.
  • The game runner is permitted to permit a team submitting within the first few days of January at their own discretion, under the proviso no other teams have scored upon the late teams entry.
  • The exception to this is if the late team includes someone sentenced to death between 0000 on the 1st January and it's submission, in that instance the player will be kindly told to fuck off and have the entire team rejected, ditto for replacements.
  • Murdering your chosen "celebrities" is both against the rules and illegal regardless of willing participation.
  • Keeping alive another persons pick against the picks will to benefit in this game is also against the roles.
  • If assisted euthanasia becomes legal in the future, contestants in this dead pool are forbidden from encouraging/discouraging/or actively taking part in their or another contestants picks decision regarding this or being an active participant in their euthanasia. This rules apply to assisted euthanasia in other countries of picks.
  • Celebrities are disqualified if they are a celebrity because of their impending death. For clarification Tom Attwater - fundraiser dying of cancer was an eligible pick for hia fundraising. This man who became critically ill after being hit by a trolley in M&S would not be an eligible pick if his identity were known for a game held in 2013, if the man were to recover, his extremely dubious claim to fame as the man hit by a trolley in M&S would be sufficient to see him eligible as a pick if he garnered the required obit.
  • All entries must be posted in this thread or PMed to me, they'll then be posted in this thread as one post for each game year.
  • The onus is always on the player to check that the person in question is alive at the start of the competition and replace them within the 24 hour leeway allotted, if this is not something you are willing to do please provide up to 5 substitutes. Even if you're convinced all you're players are breathing you may wish to provide substitutes just to be safe (a player who shall remain nameless provided a pick who died in 2005 in their team, we are all capable of making mistakes - better safe than sorry)

Scoring System (Last Updated 6 March 2016)

  • 1 Point for each day of the year that passes before your celebs death (if they die on the 10th of January you are awarded 9 points for example) up until the games close at midnight on the 31st December.
  • 250 point bonus if one of your "celebrities" dies on 31st December in that game year (i.e a 31st death will score 614 points in a normal year or 615 points in a leap year rather than the 363 deaths it would normally accrue)
  • Pick 1 of your celebrities as a wild card to double the points for that pick upon their death. (i.e if they die on the 9th January you'll get 16 points). Wildcards are calculated before the 250 point bonus, meaning are 31st December wildcard will score 976 points not 1228.
  • 500 point bonus if your entire list perish of this mortal coil in the game year.

 

 

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Whilst I'm sure I've made my opinion of this thread clear in the past (the rules are in the first post of my thread, and I'd expect anybody wishing to enter my game to read them in full I've been asked to put the rules in here following a recent overhaul. So for the incredibly lazy, short attention span newcomers in the future. Here's the March 2015 Hares Death Pool rulebook. Please read the first post of the Hares Death Pool thread anyway if you wish to enter a team, as further clarifications and amendments may be introduced in future without being added here - although I do not expect this to happen unless an actual issue arises.

 

It's not about laziness.

 

The various deadpool threads can disappear from view very quickly during quiet periods, and people can easily forget about them, or simply be unaware of them.

 

This is a pinned post which is easy to find for quick reference. It also works as an introduction for new players who may not know about the deadpool games. And a convenient way to compare them.

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Rules and scoring for the Hartlepool Deadlypool

 

 

I remember a chat with NAP in which we discussed the rules. I suggested the Morris dancing bonus. Has it ever been awarded?

 

 

John Inman had dressed up a Morris dancer in Are You Bing Served

 

I didn't know Mr Crosby appeared in that.. was he staying at the 'Holiday Inn' next door to the Grace Brothers department store ?

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I was thinking of the discussions about various deadpools and I came up with an idea for a Scavenger Hunt Bingo Deadpool.

 

The organiser would select five categories and each player would then pick 5 names in each category. There would be three ways to win

 

1. All five names in one category

2. One name in each individual category

3. Three unique hits across all 25 names.

 

The prize for the winner would be to take over the next game and select their own categories (and run the next leg of the game).

 

This would one of those things that could be over in a flash like the Deathrace or could drag on for months but would be self renewing.

 

If this is something that people would do then I will post the first five categories for a start date of 01 June.

 

Do ask any questions.

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Whilst I actually quite like the idea -

 

NO MORE GOD-FUCKING-DAMN DEAD POOLS FOR PETE'S SAKE, PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE WITH VIRGIN'S CHERRIES ON TOP!!!!!!

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