Phantom 2,467 Posted February 14, 2016 I can't believe it... Probably not big news for Brits. But for us Americans, this is huge news! We're as happy as the Brits were when Thatcher died! No ALL Brits were 'happy' when she died.History demonstrates here arrogance but it also shows that she did good in many ways, the wind of change the country needed. I punched the air the morning I heard the news, but the happiness was shortlived. While the person had died, her ideas live on in someone else. Many people were happy when she did her right-to-buy scheme, allowing council tenants to purchase their homes at, in some cases, a huge discount. This resulted in a huge lumpsum for local authorities that very soon dried up as people were paying their mortgages to the banks, rather than a monthly rent to the council. Thatcher's downfall with the public, was the poll tax. She also had to deal with others in the party who were planning to oust her anyway. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,264 Posted February 14, 2016 I can't believe it... Probably not big news for Brits. But for us Americans, this is huge news! We're as happy as the Brits were when Thatcher died! No ALL Brits were 'happy' when she died.History demonstrates here arrogance but it also shows that she did good in many ways, the wind of change the country needed. I punched the air the morning I heard the news, but the happiness was shortlived. While the person had died, her ideas live on in someone else.Many people were happy when she did her right-to-buy scheme, allowing council tenants to purchase their homes at, in some cases, a huge discount. This resulted in a huge lumpsum for local authorities that very soon dried up as people were paying their mortgages to the banks, rather than a monthly rent to the council. Thatcher's downfall with the public, was the poll tax. She also had to deal with others in the party who were planning to oust her anyway. I was happier waiting in the queue at the magistrates court for non payment of poll tax when the news of her resignation came through. Cries of victoire,victoire, and renditions of the red flag all round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,938 Posted February 14, 2016 Supreme court justice Antonin Scalia dead at 79.. http://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/feb/13/supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-dead-at-79 breaking news on BBC that's the first time I got that for a person that was not on the deathlist http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35571868 I rather liked this quote of his Mere factual innocence is no reason not to carry out a death sentence properly reached. A man with clarity of what justice means. Obama should replace him with Denis Leary (hey, I feel another thread coming on). I rather dislike it.* *For values of "rather" = 100%. He didn't say it anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,467 Posted February 14, 2016 I can't believe it... Probably not big news for Brits. But for us Americans, this is huge news! We're as happy as the Brits were when Thatcher died! No ALL Brits were 'happy' when she died.History demonstrates here arrogance but it also shows that she did good in many ways, the wind of change the country needed. I punched the air the morning I heard the news, but the happiness was shortlived. While the person had died, her ideas live on in someone else.Many people were happy when she did her right-to-buy scheme, allowing council tenants to purchase their homes at, in some cases, a huge discount. This resulted in a huge lumpsum for local authorities that very soon dried up as people were paying their mortgages to the banks, rather than a monthly rent to the council. Thatcher's downfall with the public, was the poll tax. She also had to deal with others in the party who were planning to oust her anyway. I was happier waiting in the queue at the magistrates court for non payment of poll tax when the news of her resignation came through. Cries of victoire,victoire, and renditions of the red flag all round. I had a court summons, but never showed up to court. At the time I was living in Tower Hamlets (around £450/year) but registered as living in Wandsworth (about £190/year). I still had no plans to pay, neither did the 5 others staying in the same tiny maisonette. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,132 Posted February 14, 2016 I can't believe it... Probably not big news for Brits. But for us Americans, this is huge news! We're as happy as the Brits were when Thatcher died! No ALL Brits were 'happy' when she died.History demonstrates here arrogance but it also shows that she did good in many ways, the wind of change the country needed. I punched the air the morning I heard the news, but the happiness was shortlived. While the person had died, her ideas live on in someone else. Many people were happy when she did her right-to-buy scheme, allowing council tenants to purchase their homes at, in some cases, a huge discount. This resulted in a huge lumpsum for local authorities that very soon dried up as people were paying their mortgages to the banks, rather than a monthly rent to the council. Thatcher's downfall with the public, was the poll tax. She also had to deal with others in the party who were planning to oust her anyway. Yes the Poll tax finished her really, mind you accusing the public of being 'moaning minnies' didn't go down well either... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,091 Posted February 14, 2016 I can't believe it... Probably not big news for Brits. But for us Americans, this is huge news! We're as happy as the Brits were when Thatcher died! No ALL Brits were 'happy' when she died.History demonstrates here arrogance but it also shows that she did good in many ways, the wind of change the country needed. I punched the air the morning I heard the news, but the happiness was shortlived. While the person had died, her ideas live on in someone else. Many people were happy when she did her right-to-buy scheme, allowing council tenants to purchase their homes at, in some cases, a huge discount. This resulted in a huge lumpsum for local authorities that very soon dried up as people were paying their mortgages to the banks, rather than a monthly rent to the council. Thatcher's downfall with the public, was the poll tax. She also had to deal with others in the party who were planning to oust her anyway. Yes the Poll tax finished her really, mind you accusing the public of being 'moaning minnies' didn't go down well either...what was the poll tax anyway and why was it bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,287 Posted February 14, 2016 what was the poll tax anyway and why was it bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Charge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,132 Posted February 14, 2016 Jesus. No, not even he could help. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,938 Posted February 14, 2016 I'll try kid, I'll try. England has off and on since the Dark Ages tried a form of taxation called a poll tax. Poll = head, so it's a tax on just being. And unlike the rest of the islands, the Rates on property hadn't had a revaluation since the early 1970's I think, they couldn't dare do a revaluation as there would have been anarchy by the Tories own support in England because of the price hike , especially the Business Rates (at the time somewhere like Wembley Stadium paid a lot less than say Shawfield, Clyde's ground). So they had to get rid of the Rates and increase income. Hence going back to a head tax, and of course see how the Jocks react as a tester. At the time it was a sackable offence for me not to pay it as I was working for a Local Authority. They never got a penny.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,091 Posted February 14, 2016 I'll try kid, I'll try. England has off and on since the Dark Ages tried a form of taxation called a poll tax. Poll = head, so it's a tax on just being. And unlike the rest of the islands, the Rates on property hadn't had a revaluation since the early 1970's I think, they couldn't dare do a revaluation as there would have been anarchy by the Tories own support in England because of the price hike , especially the Business Rates (at the time somewhere like Wembley Stadium paid a lot less than say Shawfield, Clyde's ground). So they had to get rid of the Rates and increase income. Hence going back to a head tax, and of course see how the Jocks react as a tester. At the time it was a sackable offence for me not to pay it as I was working for a Local Authority. They never got a penny.... so she tried to introduce a tax that wasn't possible so she made income higher just to take so she could take it away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,938 Posted February 14, 2016 Oh it was possible, but one old wifie in a £2m house would've paid the same as each adult in a council flat. Income meant revenue for government , not individual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,467 Posted February 14, 2016 I'll try kid, I'll try. England has off and on since the Dark Ages tried a form of taxation called a poll tax. Poll = head, so it's a tax on just being. And unlike the rest of the islands, the Rates on property hadn't had a revaluation since the early 1970's I think, they couldn't dare do a revaluation as there would have been anarchy by the Tories own support in England because of the price hike , especially the Business Rates (at the time somewhere like Wembley Stadium paid a lot less than say Shawfield, Clyde's ground). So they had to get rid of the Rates and increase income. Hence going back to a head tax, and of course see how the Jocks react as a tester. At the time it was a sackable offence for me not to pay it as I was working for a Local Authority. They never got a penny.... so she tried to introduce a tax that wasn't possible so she made income higher just to take so she could take it away? The income tax rate for the higher earners had been capped at 40%. The highest poll tax rates were in Labour run boroughs. So in places like Westminster you would have some one living in a swanky property valued at close to £1 million, paying no more that 40% income tax paying a quarter of what someone in a bed sit in Camden would be paying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuriedInCarolina 45 Posted February 14, 2016 Muriel Casals, one of the most representative figures of Catalonia's pro-independence movement, dies at 70 http://www.catalannewsagency.com/politics/item/muriel-casals-one-of-the-most-representative-figures-of-catalonia-s-pro-independence-movement-dies-at-70 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guylevesque 18 Posted February 15, 2016 Two months after resigning, former Russian anti-doping chief Nikita Kamayev has died of a suspected heart attack. http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/feb/15/former-russian-anti-doping-chief-nikita-kamayev-dies-report Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 8,650 Posted February 15, 2016 what was the poll tax anyway and why was it bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Charge Oh the easy answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 8,650 Posted February 15, 2016 Oh it was possible, but one old wifie in a £2m house would've paid the same as each adult in a council flat. Income meant revenue for government , not individual. But as widows living in expensive properties are what the Tories need to get them over the electoral finish line it made sense. They just didn't expect everyone to twig that it was blatant gerrymandering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chiesa52 129 Posted February 16, 2016 This continues to be a bad year for those in the world of Pop Music: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/prince-collaborator-vanity-dead-at-57-20160215 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,019 Posted February 16, 2016 Kenny Easterday, the "Man with Half A Body" who fathered a child and made regular appearances on the Jerry Springer Show, dead at 45. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,397 Posted February 16, 2016 Kenny Easterday, the "Man with Half A Body" who fathered a child and made regular appearances on the Jerry Springer Show, dead at 45. Was he, like, half-dead, before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 14,833 Posted February 16, 2016 Kenny Easterday, the "Man with Half A Body" who fathered a child and made regular appearances on the Jerry Springer Show, dead at 45. I see there's no mention of a child in the announcement. Kenny was well loved by his family of which he leaves behind a Dad, Mom a Brother, Sister 12 nephews and nieces and Aunts and Uncles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,467 Posted February 16, 2016 Kenny Easterday, the "Man with Half A Body" who fathered a child and made regular appearances on the Jerry Springer Show, dead at 45. I see there's no mention of a child in the announcement. Kenny was well loved by his family of which he leaves behind a Dad, Mom a Brother, Sister 12 nephews and nieces and Aunts and Uncles. According to his wiki page (I know it's not the best place for refernce) he had a biological daughter, Desiree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 14,833 Posted February 16, 2016 Kenny Easterday, the "Man with Half A Body" who fathered a child and made regular appearances on the Jerry Springer Show, dead at 45. I see there's no mention of a child in the announcement. Kenny was well loved by his family of which he leaves behind a Dad, Mom a Brother, Sister 12 nephews and nieces and Aunts and Uncles. According to his wiki page (I know it's not the best place for refernce) he had a biological daughter, Desiree. It also says "Apparently, there is some debate whether or not he had fathered a child by his fiancée Nikki" with a link to a 2010 report that says "Tonight a DNA test will reveal if he is the biological dad to one of his fiancée's two children.” I haven't investigated further though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,467 Posted February 16, 2016 Kenny Easterday, the "Man with Half A Body" who fathered a child and made regular appearances on the Jerry Springer Show, dead at 45. I see there's no mention of a child in the announcement. Kenny was well loved by his family of which he leaves behind a Dad, Mom a Brother, Sister 12 nephews and nieces and Aunts and Uncles. According to his wiki page (I know it's not the best place for refernce) he had a biological daughter, Desiree. It also says "Apparently, there is some debate whether or not he had fathered a child by his fiancée Nikki" with a link to a 2010 report that says "Tonight a DNA test will reveal if he is the biological dad to one of his fiancée's two children.” I haven't investigated further though. Wouldn't that have been why he appeared on Springer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,012 Posted February 16, 2016 Kenny Easterday, the "Man with Half A Body" who fathered a child and made regular appearances on the Jerry Springer Show, dead at 45. I see there's no mention of a child in the announcement. Kenny was well loved by his family of which he leaves behind a Dad, Mom a Brother, Sister 12 nephews and nieces and Aunts and Uncles. According to his wiki page (I know it's not the best place for refernce) he had a biological daughter, Desiree. It also says "Apparently, there is some debate whether or not he had fathered a child by his fiancée Nikki" with a link to a 2010 report that says "Tonight a DNA test will reveal if he is the biological dad to one of his fiancée's two children. I haven't investigated further though. Wouldn't that have been why he appeared on Springer? That was half the reason. Edit: tough crowd today. Goddamn.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
