Political Frailty

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

13 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Feels stubbon he wouldn't step down from still having to do his duties from home.

It’s not like the Speaker of the Commons. Doesn’t require him being there as it’s more ceremonial.

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After 50 years as a Parliamentarian (that's what the latest photo signifies) he appears to be someone who wants to go out in the saddle 

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Former Prime Minister of Somalia Hassan Farah died at 75 years:

https://allafrica.com/stories/202007120063.html

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Sir Toke Talagi, long-time Premier of pacific ocean nation Niue dead at 69:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/pacific/421272/former-niue-premier-sir-toke-talagi-dies-after-lengthy-illness

 

It comes just a few weeks after his loss in his attempt at a fifth term. He was already described as frail and ill during the campaign.

I wonder if he QOs... like Sprent Dabwido.

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The last of the communist era leaders of Eastern Europe Milos Jakes , ex leader of Czechoslavakia has died at 97 https://www.macaubusiness.com/czechoslovak-communist-leader-milos-jakes-dies-at-97-report/

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5 hours ago, CoffinLodger said:

The last of the communist era leaders of Eastern Europe Milos Jakes , ex leader of Czechoslavakia has died at 97 https://www.macaubusiness.com/czechoslovak-communist-leader-milos-jakes-dies-at-97-report/

Last of the communist era leaders isnt even dead in the CSSR since Lubomír Štrougal is still alive and here in Germany we still have 3 living former GDR leaders, 2 of which are communist.

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5 minutes ago, roaming_comrade said:

Last of the communist era leaders isnt even dead in the CSSR since Lubomír Štrougal is still alive and here in Germany we still have 3 living former GDR leaders, 2 of which are communist.

Interestingly Jakes mainly provoked laughter among the population, Strougal provoked (and still does) fear. The worst has survived, I see.

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12 minutes ago, roaming_comrade said:

Last of the communist era leaders isnt even dead in the CSSR since Lubomír Štrougal is still alive and here in Germany we still have 3 living former GDR leaders, 2 of which are communist.

Also bruh, what about Gorbachev?

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7 hours ago, roaming_comrade said:

Last of the communist era leaders isnt even dead in the CSSR since Lubomír Štrougal is still alive and here in Germany we still have 3 living former GDR leaders, 2 of which are communist.

Who do you count as communists?

 

Egon Krenz definitely, Lothar de Maizière is not really a communist, and Sabine Bergmann-Pohl was definitely not a communist. 

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17 hours ago, CoffinLodger said:

The last of the communist era leaders of Eastern Europe Milos Jakes , ex leader of Czechoslavakia has died at 97 https://www.macaubusiness.com/czechoslovak-communist-leader-milos-jakes-dies-at-97-report/

 

Milos Jakes Reuters UK QO

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11 hours ago, WEP said:

Who do you count as communists?

 

Egon Krenz definitely, Lothar de Maizière is not really a communist, and Sabine Bergmann-Pohl was definitely not a communist. 

Hans Modrow, who ruled between Krenz and de Maiziere.

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22 hours ago, roaming_comrade said:

Also bruh, what about Gorbachev?

You might hear something about him in the not too distant future.He's not doing well apparantely.

 

If anyone wants to draw up a list of the many surviving communist leaders of Eastern Europe please feel free!

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News coming from a lot of legit sources on Twitter that John Lewis has died:

 

 

[drol 11,956]

A quick list of old Chinese politicos, one of the hardest thing to kill in this world.

 

1)Song Ping (1917): political leader of Gansu who rose to the Organization Department in the 80s. He was the one responsible for ending the careers of those who opposed Tien An Men repression. Due to his excellent work (and profound hatred for Zhao Zhiyang) he was promoted to the Politburo after the massacre. Considered very close to Hu JIntao. Widowed since last year.

2)Wan Haifeng (1920): one of the last founding fathers of PRC and commander of volounteers during the Korea war. Widowed since last year, increasingly frail, will be awarded a big honour later this year for his Korea service.

3)Zou Yu (1920): minister of Justice, he was hospitalized in a serious condition in 2017, but got discharged and made appearances as late as last September. Also known because his granddaughter is fine.

4)Zheng Tuobin (1924): former Minister of Trade whose retirement benefits are incredibly high.

5)Lin Jiamei (1924): wife of Li Xiannan and former First Lady. Was incredibly frail already in 2015.

6)He Jingzhi (1924): minister of Culture and famous writer.

7)Ren Jianxin (1925): president of the Supreme Court and successor of Zou Yu as Minister of Justice. Not heard so much nowadays.

8)Wang Hanbin (1925): old cadre behind the HK Basic Laws. Seen on a wheelchair back in 2016.

9)Wang Binqian (1925): former minister of Finance, living in an apartment paid by the government.

10)Jiang Zemin (1926): the human face of Chinese regime who would rise atop of the system from his Shangai political position and brought with him the infamous clique. Famous for his funny outburst and for looking like a toad, suffered a severe heart attack in 2012 and was longtime rumored dead. Doing well.

11)Zou Jiahua (1926): vice premier and Politburo member.

12)Qi Xin (1926): mother of Winnie the Pooh.

13)Wang Yeping (1928): missus of Jiang Zemin. Old but well and frequently appears in public.

14)Zhu Rongji (1928): progressist PM who believed in human rights. Recently made the headlines as he did not take part to the 70th PRC anniversary to protest against what is happening in Hong Kong.

15)Tian Jiyun (1929): former Vice-premier, rival of Jiang Zemin and protected by Zhao Zhiyang. Last appearance in 2018, but was fine. Considered a progressist who always poke fun at the hardliners.

16)Chi Haotian (1929): former Minister of Defence who was physically responsible of Tien An Men repression and showed great brutality. Somehow, still regarded as a national hero.

17)Hu Qili (1929): he paid his support to Tien An Men protest with his political career. Still, as a Politburo member, he opposed the martial law. Gravely ill in 2018, now bedridden and was visited last January by the Paramount Leader.

18)Peng Peiyun (1929): Wang Hanbin wife and Tibet human rights criminal

19)Lao An (1929): wife of Zhu Rongji

20)Han Zhijun (1930): widow of Hua Guofeng and never appears in public, as she didn't even when he was in power.

21)Yan Mingfu (1931): one of the very few high-ranking cadres who opposed martial law at Tien An Men and paid with his career (thanks, mr. Song). Suffering from a "long-term" illness which forces him on a wheelchair.

22)Song Jian (1931): legendary aerospace engineer and former minister of science.

23)Li Lanqing (1932): close friend of Li Ruihuan and former Vice-premier who focused on national education and steered clear from controversy.

24)Zhu Lin (1933): widow of Bejing butcher Li Peng.

25)Li Ruihuan (1934): definitely the good guy who had a direct contact with the people, even holding a radio broadcast in which he answered questions. Always seen as a moderate among hardliners.

26)Liu Zhongli (1934): former minister of Finance.

27)Wang Meng (1934): minister of Culture and famous writer

28)Luo Gan (1935): Jiang's main henchman, reportedly in failing health in 2021.

29)Cao Gangchuan (1935): minister of Defense, who was a relief after Chi Haotian.

30)Tang Jiaxuan (1938): former foreign minister.

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10 minutes ago, drol said:

Hu Qili

 

Great name for the victim in a murder mystery.

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It's just Sputniknews, but since the rumors about John Lewis came true...

 

There are apparently people on social media who claim that Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko (1954) was hospitalized after a hypertensive crisis.

 

 https://sputniknews.com/europe/202007191079931666-belarusian-presidents-spokeswoman-refutes-rumors-of-lukashenkos-hospitalisation/

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On 13/06/2020 at 18:43, YoungWillz said:

Part Two:

 

85-89

 

Tom Mitchell, 88 (29 July 1931), Sinn Fein (Mid Ulster 1955)

 

Tom Mitchell has died a week shy of his 89th birthday.  No obit yet, but an acknowledgement of his death by Sinn Fein: https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/57489

 

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6 minutes ago, alt obits guy said:

Tom Mitchell has died a week shy of his 89th birthday.  No obit yet, but an acknowledgement of his death by Sinn Fein: https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/57489

 

 

Well I suppose that ends the decades long dispute about if he'd die off the radar! (He basically become reclusive and showing up at a funeral in 2013 was the first folk knew for sure he was still alive in about a decade).

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

The death of Tom Mitchell means that Scottish hereditary peer Robert Lindsay, 29th Earl of Crawford, 93, is now the only surviving MP elected at the 1955 general election. He's also the Chief of Clan Lindsay. He only retired from the House of Lords in November of last year.

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1 hour ago, Ulitzer95 said:

The death of Tom Mitchell means that Scottish hereditary peer Robert Lindsay, 29th Earl of Crawford, 93, is now the only surviving MP elected at the 1955 general election. He's also the Chief of Clan Lindsay. He only retired from the House of Lords in November of last year.

Love your level of knowledge and detail. 

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

1 hour ago, Gooseberry Crumble said:

Love your level of knowledge and detail. 

And I love Wikipedia! 

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Not sure if this is the best thread, but Stuart Wheeler is no more:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2020/07/23/stuart-wheeler-spread-betting-mogul-became-leading-donor-conservative/

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2 minutes ago, Man About The Forum said:

Not sure if this is the best thread, but Stuart Wheeler is no more:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2020/07/23/stuart-wheeler-spread-betting-mogul-became-leading-donor-conservative/

Oh what a shame never mind

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56 minutes ago, Man About The Forum said:

Not sure if this is the best thread, but Stuart Wheeler is no more:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2020/07/23/stuart-wheeler-spread-betting-mogul-became-leading-donor-conservative/

 

And 35 2021 DDP team shortlists get shortened by one.

[The Old Crem 3,607]

On 11/07/2020 at 19:02, Ulitzer95 said:

It’s not like the Speaker of the Commons. Doesn’t require him being there as it’s more ceremonial.

Not so much now - increasingly gets seen as if he is the spokesman for the Lords.