Political Frailty

[YoungWillz 21,057]

On 04/01/2021 at 19:50, Ulitzer95 said:

And now for a list that nobody asked for.

Following the death of Kay Ullrich today, a list of MSPs current and former aged 75+, ordered by DOB from oldest to youngest.

1) Winnie Ewing (wiki), 91, SNP, Highlands and Islands 99–03
2) David Steel, Baron Steel of Aikwood (wiki), 82, Lib Dem, Lothians 99–03
3) Colin Campbell (wiki), 82, SNP, West of Scotland 99–03
4) Keith Harding (wiki), 82, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03
5) Sir George Reid (wiki), 81, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03 then Ochil 03–07
6) Jean Turner (wiki), 81, Independent, Strathkelvin and Bearsden 03–07
7) Ian McKee (wiki), 80, SNP, Lothians 07–11
8) Robin Harper (wiki), 80, Greens, Lothians 99–11
9) Ian Jenkins (wiki), 79, Lib Dem, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale 99–03
10) George Foulkes, Baron Foulkes of Cumnock (wiki), 78, Labour, Lothians 07–11
11) Bill Walker (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Dunfermline 11–13
12) James Douglas-Hamilton, Baron Selkirk of Douglas (wiki), 78, Conservative, Lothians 99–07
13) Nanette Milne (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 03–16
14) Dennis Canavan (wiki), 78, Labour then Independent, Falkirk West 99–07
15) Dorothy-Grace Elder (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Glasgow 99–03
16) Ted Brocklebank (wiki), 78, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife, 03–11
17) Richard Simpson (wiki), 78, Labour, Ochil 99–03 then Mid Scotland and Fife 07–16
18) Gil Paterson (wiki), 78, SNP, Central Scotland 99–03 then West of Scotland 07–11 then Clyebank and Milngavie 2011–present
19) Tom Mason (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 2017–present
20) David Davidson (wiki), 77, Conservative, North East 99–07
21) Maureen Macmillan (wiki), 77, Labour, Highlands and Islands 99–07
22) Andrew Arbuckle (wiki), 76, Lib Dem, Mid Scotland and Fife 05–07
23) Andrew Welsh (wiki), 76, SNP, Angus 99–11
24) Chic Brodie (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 11–16
25) Christine Grahame (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 99–11 then Midlothian South 2011–present
26) Christopher Harvie (wiki), 76, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 07–11
27) Alasdair Morgan (wiki), 75, SNP, Galloway and Upper Nithsdale 99–03 then South of Scotland 03–07
28) Rob Gibson (wiki), 75, SNP, Highlands and Islands 03–11 then Caithness, Sutherland and Ross 11–16
29) Mike Pringle (wiki), 75, Lib Dem, Edinburgh South 03–11

Quite a few Scottish members on this Forum. Anyone know much about the health of some of the names here? I'm aware of Winnie Ewing being ill. I think Bill Walker has also been ill. Nanette Milne and Tom Mason have had illnesses in the past. Mason will surely be standing down next time, even if he hasn't announced his retirement yet.

Anybody mentioned Chic Brodie's death here? https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/former-msp-town-campaigner-chic-28075912

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

On 27/09/2022 at 21:55, YoungWillz said:

Anybody mentioned Chic Brodie's death here? https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/former-msp-town-campaigner-chic-28075912

He was quite a character / nutter, though always found him to be an alright guy.

 

Tried to gatecrash the Scottish Conservative conference about 10 years ago by climbing over the wall. Stopped by the police and he proclaimed “But I’m an MSP!!”.

 

Cancer. Only diagnosed 5 weeks ago too.

[gcreptile 10,978]

Rep. Mark Souder has not yet received a QO for the few pools he was picked in.... however, he was last mentioned in a QO source in August, when Rep. Walorski of Indiana died in a car crash.

The special election to fill that seat will be held in November and will be the first special election in Indiana since the resignation of ...Mark Souder.

[drol 11,957]

On 26/09/2022 at 12:18, arghton said:

Ancient Chinese politician, 105-year-old former politburo member Song Ping has allegedly made a public appearance recently with Zhu Rongji:

https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/yataibaodao/zhengzhi/gt2-09202022061125.html

Song Ping is making the headlines as his recent message goes against Xi, as old Song is calling for reforms. State media have partially censored Song's interview.

 

Ironic considering he was the hardliner in 1989!

[arghton 6,754]

On 02/08/2022 at 23:10, arghton said:

4. Spain (Including "less notable" names up to 1927)

Antonio Alvarado Largo (1912) Oldest man in Spain, Mayor of Cremenes 1987-1996, Spanish Civil War vet.

Antonio Alvarado Largo, ex-Mayor of Crémenes and oldest man in Spain dead at 110.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

On 27/09/2022 at 21:55, YoungWillz said:

Anybody mentioned Chic Brodie's death here? https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/former-msp-town-campaigner-chic-28075912

Gets quite the complimentary Telegraph obit.

I think many nowadays just knew him as an old crank, but the obit reveals a long history of interactions with significant events, incl. with Donald Trump (who he initially quarrelled with but the two later became friends) and Roy Jenkins.

[YoungWillz 21,057]

8 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Gets quite the complimentary Telegraph obit.

I think many nowadays just knew him as an old crank, but the obit reveals a long history of interactions with significant events, incl. with Donald Trump (who he initially quarrelled with but the two later became friends) and Roy Jenkins.

Oh quite understandable, MSPs aren't all just glorified councillors or jumped up football referees you know.

 

I'd have thought perhaps a Times obit, but a Telegraph one...on the back of the Trump Turnberry story for sure!

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

1 minute ago, YoungWillz said:

Oh quite understandable, MSPs aren't all just glorified councillors or jumped up football referees you know.

 

I'd have thought perhaps a Times obit, but a Telegraph one...on the back of the Trump Turnberry story for sure!

Most are though.  

[YoungWillz 21,057]

9 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Most are though.  

Aye, in the current main opposition party. 

[arghton 6,754]

On 02/10/2021 at 16:59, arghton said:

https://klaipeda.diena.lt/naujienos/lietuva/salies-pulsas/v-landsbergis-ligonineje-gydomas-nuo-infekcijos-1045555

Hospitalised with an infection.

Vytautas Landsbergis, (first post-independence Head of State of Lithuania 1990-1992) again in hospital with a bacterial infection:

https://www.tv3.lt/naujiena/lietuva/vytautas-landsbergis-ligonineje-papasakojo-kaip-jauciasi-n1192277

However he's improving and will probably be discharged on Monday.

Also a Hares DP pick.

[arghton 6,754]

On 27/09/2022 at 13:16, arghton said:

There was also this wheelchairbound guy who looked absolutely horrible:

Interestingly he was probably one of the former/current heads of govt/state or VPs. Not sure at all who. In attendance a few unmentioned leaders for example "A former President of Germany", "a former President of France", "a former VP of Zimbabwe", "former President of Switzerland" and "a former President of Turkmenistan".

Lots of former Heads of State and Govt there.

I wonder if it could've been Richard Armitage, Bush's Deputy Secretary of State 2001-2005 when Colin Powell was the Secretary of State? This man was with a group of people following Kamala Harris, and apparently Armitage was in the  US delegation. 

[arghton 6,754]

On 22/01/2022 at 17:23, arghton said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexican-president-visits-hospital-routine-check-up-office-says-2022-01-21/

Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez "AMLO" Obrador has undergone cardiac catheterization, "in perfect health"

 

Edit: Apparently did a "political will" in case he dies.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/mexican-president-confirms-hack-government-124308548.html

Revealed in a data hack that Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez "AMLO" Obrador has been diagnosed with a form of angina and had 10 medical consultations in the first half of January

[DevonDeathTrip 2,358]

The Russian backed heads of the four newly annexed regions of Ukraine might be worth a shot (perhaps literally, as well as metaphorically) 

 

Yevgeny Balitsky - Zaporizhzhia

 

Vladimir Saldo - Kherson,

 

Denis Pushilin - Donetsk 'People’s Republic'

 

Leonid Pasechnik - Luhansk 'People’s Republic'

 

Historically, politicians who collaborate with invading forces often face a day of reckoning and this bunch, as well as their little friend, will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives. I'm not sure they'll all make old bones...

 

 

[drol 11,957]

Kerala MLA who was destined to become Kerala CM, Kodiyeri Balakrishnan, dead at 68 from pancreatic cancer.

 

While his death itself is not so interesting, this article from two weeks ago mentions a series of ailing Kerala politicians:

 

*Kodiyeri Balakrishnan (1953), pancreatic cancer

*Pinarayi Vijayan (1945),  CM of Kerala, suffers from cancer, receives occasional treatment in the US.

*Oomen Chandy (1943), predecessor of Pinaray, suffers from throat cancer

*K. Sudhakaran (1948), sitting MP, likely suffers from throat cancer, treated at Mayo Clinic in Minnesota

*V.M. Sudheeran (1948), former MP, suffers from multiple health issues and has not appeared in public for years

*VS Achuthanandan (1923), we all know him, suffered cerebral hemorrhage in 2018, acute kidney failure and life support in 2021, survived COVID this year. Still better than the above, much younger guys.

[arghton 6,754]

On 07/09/2022 at 17:49, arghton said:

Mulayam visited by 2019 DL cup pick, Haryana's former CM and convicted crook Om Prakash Chautala, who doesn't look great either:

Mulayam Singh Yadav hospitalised in critical condition in ICU:

https://zeenews.india.com/hindi/india/mulayam-singh-yadav-health-deteriorated-admitted-to-icu-in-medanta-gurugram/1376996

A while ago I bet he'd have, probably one more hospitalisation. This time I think he won't survive.

[drol 11,957]

I just read that. Seems very very serious, it's making national headlines quickly.

 

Seems a huge streak of hospitalizations is coming to an end.

[arghton 6,754]

Found an old article on Khamtai Siphandone's (98-year-old dictator of Laos from the 90s to 2006, richest man in the country) health issues from 2016, don't think this has ever been mentioned before:

https://www.rfa.org/lao/daily/politics/former-president-khamtay-siphandone-had-stroke-02112016002337.html

 

He was "healthy" (but extremely frail and suffered from high BP) until February 2016. On the 10th of February 2016 he suffered a severe stroke, was rushed to a Hanoi military hospital by plane with 2-3 of his children and was put on oxygen. Don't think there's been any actual news on his health since, last public appearance was in December 2021.

[arghton 6,754]

3 hours ago, drol said:

I just read that. Seems very very serious, it's making national headlines quickly.

 

Seems a huge streak of hospitalizations is coming to an end.

He's currently either stable or critical and some sources say he's on ventilator. Anyways, "being treated under the supervision of oncologists"

[drol 11,957]

It's quite an open secret he has suffered from stomach cancer for years.

[drol 11,957]

Mulayam officially stable. I expect the improving part soon.

[arghton 6,754]

5 hours ago, drol said:

Mulayam officially stable. I expect the improving part soon.

Stable for now according to them, his relatives and politicians, but a lot of things seem to point to him having advanced cancer. Some sources say he's been seriously declining for a month or two now and he was already on oxygen last month.

No matter how stable he is, he's reportedly on ventilator, treated by oncologists and his family has rushed to the hospital. And no pictures of him have been released yet. Everything about this sounds grim. My bet is the 4th of October.

[Gooseberry Crumble 5,346]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-63090098

 

Garry Peltzer  Dunn, the former Conservative  mayor of Brighton and Hove  and a councillor  for 50 years has died aged 79 

Local   MPs   the Green partys Caroline Lucas and  Labours Peter Kyle  have shared their condolences.

 

[time 8,618]

3 hours ago, Gooseberry Crumble said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-63090098

 

Garry Peltzer  Dunn, the former Conservative  mayor of Brighton and Hove  and a councillor  for 50 years has died aged 79 

Local   MPs   the Green partys Caroline Lucas and  Labours Peter Kyle  have shared their condolences.

 

I knew Garry, nice bloke.

[Ulitzer95 12,654]

On 29/09/2022 at 18:01, YoungWillz said:

Oh quite understandable, MSPs aren't all just glorified councillors or jumped up football referees you know.

 

I'd have thought perhaps a Times obit, but a Telegraph one...on the back of the Trump Turnberry story for sure!

Times obit.

Clarifies that the cause of death was oesophageal cancer. Nasty one that, and unsurprising that he only lasted 5 weeks after diagnosis.

My mate told me it was throat cancer. I've since explained to him what the oesophagus and the throat are different things.  

[arghton 6,754]

21 hours ago, drol said:

Mulayam officially stable. I expect the improving part soon.

Still stable in ICU/CCU, on dialysis and surrounded by a "comprehensive team of specialists"*. Some reports say that he's "improving and off ventilator" but some say that he hasn't improved.

 

*Specialized in keeping old Asian politicians alive.