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On 02/08/2021 at 20:14, drol said:

Tantawi not dead, but "in a stable condition" after an Egyptian MP asked to "pray for him" on Twitter.

Now he is dead:

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1932671/middle-east

 

Morsi died in 2019, Mubarak in 2020, Tantawi in 2021.

Adly Mansour and Abdel Fattah el-Sisi 2022 and 2023?

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On 04/08/2021 at 00:54, arghton said:

Paulias Matane will be 90 later this year, looked very frail on his 89th:

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Paulias Matane (Governor-General of Papua New Guinea 2004-2010) is 90 today. Picture is from the 2nd of September.

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13 minutes ago, arghton said:

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Paulias Matane is 90 today. Picture is from the 2nd of September.

Fucking stick legs???

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Guess it's an upper-body business as he's definitely skipped leg day.

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16 minutes ago, Spade_Cooley said:

Guess it's an upper-body business as he's definitely skipped leg day.

 

23 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Fucking stick legs???

 

Seriously, have you seen his left arm?

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Also here's a list of the first leaders of countries that gained independence when the Soviet Union collapsed:

 

Lithuania (11th of March 1990):

Vytautas Landsbergis (1932-) Head of State as the Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Republic of Lithuania 1990-1992

Kazimira Prunskienė (1943-) Prime Minister 1990-1991

 

Georgia (9th of April 1991):

Zviad Gamsakhurdia (1939-1993) President 1991-1992. Died in unclear circumstances.

(Murman Omanidze (1938-2020) Acting Prime Minister 1991 for five days. Died from covid in Russia.)

Besarion Gugushvili (1945-) First Prime Minister 1991-1992, now lives in exile.

 

Estonia (20th of August 1991):

Heinrich Mark (1911-2004) Last President 1990-1992 and Prime Minister 1971-1990 in exile.

Arnold Rüütel (1928-) Presidium Chairman 1983-1990, Chairman of the Supreme Council 1990-1992 and later President 2001-2006.

Lennart Meri (1929-2006) First post-Soviet President 1992-2001. Died of a brain tumor in 2006.

Interim Prime Ministers:

Edgar Savisaar (1950-) 1st Interim Prime Minister 1990-1992. Was critically ill in 2015, leg amputated.

Tiit Vähi (1947-) 2nd Interim Prime Minister 1992 and later 1995-1997.

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Mart Laar (1960-) First non-interim Prime Minister 1992-1994 and later 1999-2002. Stroke in 2012.

 

Latvia (21st of August 1991):

Anatolijs Gorbunovs (1942-) Acting President 1991-1993.

Guntis Ulmanis (1939-) "First" post-Independence President 1993-1999.

Ivars Godmanis (1949-) First post-Independence Prime Minister 1990-1993, also 2007-2009. Suffered head injuries in 2008, aged a lot during the last years.

 

Ukraine (24th of August 1991):

Leonid Kravchuk (1934-) First acting President 1991 and first President 1991-1994. Still active.

Vitold Fokin (1932-) First acting Prime Minister 1990-1991 and first Prime Minister 1990/1991-1992. Also still active.

 

Belarus (25th of August 1991):

Stanislav Shushkevich (1934-) Head of State as Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the Republic of Belarus 1991-1994.

Vyacheslav Kebich (1936-2020) First Prime Minister 1991-1994. Died from covid.

 

Transnistria (25th of August 1991, unrecognized):

Igor Smirnov (1941-) President 1991-2011.

 

Moldova (27th of August 1991):

Mircea Snegur (1940-) Chairman of the Presidium 1990, President 1990-1997. Widowed in 2019.

Valeriu Muravschi (1949-2020) First Prime Minister 1991-1992, died of cancer after a coma.

 

Kyrgyzstan (31st of August 1991):

Askar Akayev (1944-) First President 1990-2005 until he was deposed. Son died in 2020.

Nasirdin Isanov (1943-1991) First Prime Minister 1991, died in a car crash.

 

Uzbekistan (1st of September 1991):

Islam Karimov (1938-2016) President of the Uzbek SSR 1990-1991, President of Uzbekistan 1991-2016 until his death from a stroke.

Abdulhashim Mutalov (1947-) First Prime Minister 1992-1995.

 

Tajikistan (9th of September 1991):

Qahhor Mahkamov (1932-2016) First "President" (pre-independence) 1990-1991. Died from long illness.

Qadriddin Aslonov (1947-1992) Acting President 1991 at the time of independence. Killed by militants.

Rahmon Nabiyev (1930-1993) President 1991. Died of heart attack/suicide/murder.

Izatullo Khayoyev (1936-2015) First Prime Minister 1991-1992. Died from a long illness.

 

Armenia (23rd of September 1991):

Levon Ter-Petrosyan (1945-) First President 1991-1998. Lifelong smoker but still active in politics.

Vazgen Manukyan (1946-) First Prime Minister 1990-1991. Still active.

 

Azerbaijan (18th of October 1991):

Ayaz Mutallibov (1938-) First President 1991-1992. Son died in 2011, widowed in 2019.

Hasan Hasanov (1940-) First Prime Minister 1990-1992.

 

Turkmenistan (27th of October 1991):

Saparmurat Niyazov (1940-2006) President 1990-2006. Died from a heart attack and/or IHD and kidney failure.

Han Ahmedow (1936-2006) First and last Prime Minister 1989-1992. Died from a heart attack after being refused treatment, 15 days before Niyazov.

 

Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (1st of November 1991 to 1st of May 2000, unrecognized):

Dzhokhar Dudayev (1944-1996) President and Prime Minister 1991-1996. Assasinated with laser-guided missiles.

 

Russia (12th of December 1991):

Boris Yeltsin (1931-2007) President 1991-1999. Died of congestive heart failure.

Viktor Chernomyrdin (1938-2010) Prime Minister 1992-1998. Died after a long illness.

 

Kazakhstan (16th of December 1991):

Nursultan Nazarbayev (1940-) President 1990-2019, Chairman of the Security Council 2019-. Survived covid in 2020.

Sergey Tereshchenko (1951-) Prime Minister 1991-1994.

 

40 names, 17 of which are dead and a lot of the living ones are quite frail.

 

 

Bonus, Russia's satellite states:

 

Nagorno-Karabakh/Artsakh (10th of December 1991):

Artur Mkrtchyan (1959-1993) First Head of State as Chairman of the Supreme Council 1992. Killed in his apartment under mysterious circumstances.

Oleg Yesayan (1946-) First Prime Minister 1992.

 

South Ossetia (21st of December 1991):

Torez Kulumbegov (1938-2006) Chairman of the Supreme Council 1990-1991. Died after a serious illness.

Znaur Gassiev (1925-2016) First post-independence Head of State 1991-1992. Death cause not mentioned.

Oleg Teziev (1948-) First Prime Minister 1991-1993. Unknown if alive, no English wikipedia page.

 

Abkhazia (23rd of July 1992):

Valerian Kobakhia (1929-1992) Chairman of the Supreme Soviet 1990, signed declaration of sovereignty. Died of unknown/unmentioned causes.

Vladislav Ardzinba (1945-2010) Chairman of the Supreme Soviet 1990-1994 and President 1994-2005. Died in Russia in 2010 after a long period of declining health.

Gennadi Gagulia (1948-2018) First Prime Minister 1995-1997, resigned due to bad health. Later Prime Minister 2002-2003 and 2018, died in office in a car accident.

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Saw on a bookshelf in a gift shop a book by Roy Hattersley on The Cavendish Family. His book on the years between the wars was very good so I was quite interested but £16.99 for a paperback is a bit steep especially on my budget. However it did get me thinking that dear old Roy must be worthy of consideration for 2022 as noone has ever looked at him and said "I wonder how he manages to look so healthy" 

I expected Shirley Williams to out live him so howabout a politically balanced double act for 2022 of Hurd & Hattersley 

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13 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said:

Saw on a bookshelf in a gift shop a book by Roy Hattersley on The Cavendish Family. His book on the years between the wars was very good so I was quite interested but £16.99 for a paperback is a bit steep especially on my budget. However it did get me thinking that dear old Roy must be worthy of consideration for 2022 as noone has ever looked at him and said "I wonder how he manages to look so healthy" 

I expected Shirley Williams to out live him so howabout a politically balanced double act for 2022 of Hurd & Hattersley 

 

When Roy last showed up on TV just before lockdown, he was an old frail man shaking with what seemed to be heavy Parkinsons and barely able to speak. I didn't recognise him until I heard his (now very weak) voice.

 

Would be a good DL addition in my book, given he was in good health just over 2 years ago, so this decline has been rapid.

 

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8 minutes ago, msc said:

 

When Roy last showed up on TV just before lockdown, he was an old frail man shaking with what seemed to be heavy Parkinsons and barely able to speak. I didn't recognise him until I heard his (now very weak) voice.

 

Would be a good DL addition in my book, given he was in good health just over 2 years ago, so this decline has been rapid.

 

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It will be a sad day as I always liked Roy and he had a vast knowledge of parliamentary history

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On 14/09/2021 at 15:09, drol said:

Zeman and Klaus both hospitalised.

Both discharged.

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40 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Jesus, Sir George Howarth has been ill, returns for PMQs and looks an absolute fright. 

 

Shock!


Trying to find out what's wrong / what was wrong with him.

The Big C?

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On 21/09/2021 at 14:27, arghton said:

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Paulias Matane (Governor-General of Papua New Guinea 2004-2010) is 90 today. Picture is from the 2nd of September.

And in fact the former Governor General of Papua New Guinea is dead.... 

Silas Altopare, aged 70.

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5 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

Jesus, Sir George Howarth has been ill, returns for PMQs and looks an absolute fright. 

 

Shock!


Yeah supposedly cancer according to my "source". Couldn't tell me if he's in remission or not though.

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Here is a picture of the aforementioned appearance.

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I may have mentioned him before but former Prime Minister of Nepal Jhala Nath Khanal seems to be quite sick...He was hospitalised in October, March, with covid in May, with blood infection, lung problems and chronic pneumonia in June and got a kidney transplant in August. He was in hospital for over two months between June and August. He resigned from all his posts at the end of August.

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I've been going through the UN General Assembly speeches, some things that I noticed:

 

Lebanon's Michel Aoun, Equatorial Guinea's Teodoro Obiang Mbasogo, Djibouti's Ismail Omar Guelleh, Zimbabwe's Mnangagwa and Palestine's Mahmoud Abbas are in a better shape than I expected. Mbasogo and Abbas have both been "at death's door" years ago, Mnangagwa sounded bad at Kaunda's funeral and Guelleh is a fat septuagenarian who recently went on a mystery trip to France.

 

Nigeria's Buhari sounds frailish. Kiribati's President Maamau looks and sounds fifteen years above his age. Uganda's Museveni seems to read everything from a paper including the "Thank you for your attention". Tanzania's new president Samia Suluhu Hassan sounds okay but breathes in loudly every other or every third second.

 

All speeches here: https://www.youtube.com/c/unitednations/videos

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6 hours ago, arghton said:

I've been going through the UN General Assembly speeches, some things that I noticed:

 

Lebanon's Michel Aoun, Equatorial Guinea's Teodoro Obiang Mbasogo, Djibouti's Ismail Omar Guelleh, Zimbabwe's Mnangagwa and Palestine's Mahmoud Abbas are in a better shape than I expected. Mbasogo and Abbas have both been "at death's door" years ago, Mnangagwa sounded bad at Kaunda's funeral and Guelleh is a fat septuagenarian who recently went on a mystery trip to France.

 

Nigeria's Buhari sounds frailish. Kiribati's President Maamau looks and sounds fifteen years above his age. Uganda's Museveni seems to read everything from a paper including the "Thank you for your attention". Tanzania's new president Samia Suluhu Hassan sounds okay but breathes in loudly every other or every third second.

 

All speeches here: https://www.youtube.com/c/unitednations/videos

not sure if it was just his mic, but Hun Sen of Cambodia also didnt sound very healthy

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On 15/08/2021 at 19:16, arghton said:

https://www.observerbd.com/news.php?id=326564

Khaleda Zia won't be celebrating her 76th birthday today as "her physical condition is not well"

Article also mentions that she isn't interested in celebrating birthdays anymore.

https://www.banglanews24.com/english/politics/news/bd/91486.details

Khaleda Zia's prison sentence recently frozen for six months by Sheikh Hasina, her (former) political rival and current Prime Minister and Home Affairs minister Asaduzzaman Khan due to "age and humanitarian ground"

"Zia will receive treatment staying in country and will not be allowed to travel abroad during the release period"

Sounds a bit like they don't expect her to live long

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Frances Farenthold (wiki), American Democratic politician and attorney who served as a member of the Texas House of Representatives from 1969 to 1973, dead from complications of Parkinson's disease, just short of her 95th birthday.

Washington Post obituary.

Notable for coming second place in the delegate ballot for Vice President nomination at the 1972 Democratic National Convention. The results of that ballot were:

winner: Thomas Eagleton (1929–2007)
2nd Frances Farenthold (1926–2021)
3rd Mike Gravel (1930–2021)
4th Endicott Peabody (1920–1997)
5th Clay Smothers (1935–2004)
6th Birch Bay (1928–2019)
7th Peter W. Rodino (1909–2005)

8th Jimmy Carter (b. 1924)
9th Shirley Chisholm (1924–2005)
10th Moon Landrieu (b. 1930)
11th Ned Breathitt (1924–2003)
12th Ted Kennedy (1932–2009)

13th Fred R. Harris (b. 1930)
14th Richard G. Hatcher (1933–2019)
15th Harold Hughes (1922–1996)
16th Joseph Montoya (1915–1978)
17th/18th William L. Guy (1919–2013)
17th/18th Adlai Stevenson III (1930–2021)
19th Robert Bergland (1928–2018)
20th Hodding Carter (1907–1972) died months prior but still received 5 votes


Farenthold, Gravel and Stevenson all gone this year. Jimmy Carter determined to outlive every other notable political name of his era it would seem.

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