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4 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Apparently he has been discharged from the hospice - through I’m not sure if that is because he will die very soon or because his condition has stabilised enough so that he might make 2022. 
 

I will be a bit surprised if he makes the death list through even if he is still alive by then. 

 

Calling for euthanasia suggests months to go, tbh, but then, Brian Rix did that and just keeled over weeks later.

 

DL wise - Jowell made it, and while she held Cabinet posts, Field had more of a TV presence - especially in the last 5 years with Brexit and his disdain for all things Corbyn. I could certainly see them adding him.

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15 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Apparently he has been discharged from the hospice - through I’m not sure if that is because he will die very soon or because his condition has stabilised enough so that he might make 2022.

Going home to die?

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Just been told via a reliable Labour source that Field has a very aggressive cancer in stage 4. May not see the New Year if that’s the case.

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Definitely DL worthy and worth creating a thread for I would say.

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I think we'd have to think the unthinkable to imagine he'll still be alive in 2022. 

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On 25/07/2019 at 19:31, drol said:

North Africa in general has lot to offer in matter of old politicians.

 

Tunisia:

*Abdelbaki Hermassi (1937) Foreign Minister

 

Dead

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Barbados will become a republic on the 30th of November, becoming the first country to cease being a commonwealth realm since Mauritius in 1992.

The President-elect is Sandra Mason the current Governor-General since 2018.

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I started wondering how many of the people who succeeded QEII as Head of State has she outlived (or not, atlest yet)? Here's a list:

 

Pakistan (QEII as Queen 1952-1956): Iskander Mirza (1899-1969, President 1956-1958)

Ghana (1957-1960): Kwame Nkrumah (1909-1972, President 1960-1966)

South Africa (1952-1961): C. R. Swart (1894-1982, State President 1961-1967)

Tanganyika (1961-1962): Julius Nyerere (1922-1999, President 1962-1964, later President of Tanzania 1964-1985)

Nigeria (1960-1963): Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe (1904-1996, President 1963-1966)

Uganda (1962-1963): Mutesa II of Buganda (1924-1969, President 1963-1966)

Kenya (1963-1964): Jomo Kenyatta (c. 1897-1978, President 1964-1978)

Malawi (1964-1966): Hastings Banda (Unknown/1898/1906/1907-1997, President 1966-1994)

The Gambia (1965-1970): Dawda Jawara (1924-2019, President 1970-1994)

Guyana (1966-1970): Arthur Chung (1918-2008, President 1970-1980)

Rhodesia (1965-1970): Clifford Dupont (1905-1978, President 1970-1976)

Sierra Leone (1961-1971): Siaka Stevens (1905-1988, President 1971-1985)

Ceylon (1952-1972): William Gopallawa (1896-1981, President 1972-1978)

Malta (1964-1974): Anthony Mamo (1909-2008, President 1974-1976)

Trinidad and Tobago (1962-1976): Ellis Clarke (1917-2010, President 1976-1987)

Fiji (1970-1987): Penaia Ganilau (1918-1993, President 1987-1993)

Mauritius (1968-1992): Veerasamy Ringadoo (1920-2000, President 1992)

Barbados (1966-2021): Sandra Mason (1949-, President-elect)

 

Yeah, Mason is the only one living.

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Grant Woods, Attorney General of Arizona 1991-1999 and former Chief of Staff of John McCain during McCain's senator years dead at 67 from a heart attack:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/578174-grant-woods-longtime-friend-of-mccain-and-former-arizona-ag-dies-at-67

Was a republican before leaving the party in 2018, democrat at the time of his death.

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At John McCain's funeral, 2018

 

Robert K. Corbin, his 92-year old predecessor (Attorney General of Arizona 1979-1991) is still alive.

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Fofi Gennimata, leader of the Greek Social Democrats, dead after a long cancer fight at 56 (or 57?):

https://greekreporter.com/2021/10/25/greek-socialist-fofi-gennimata-dies/

 

Meh, she had just stepped down two weeks ago. The cancer must have been far too advanced already.

 

Edit: Here is a DDP QO, curiously under the "US politics" section... what's happening on the obit front lately? 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/athens-greek-kyriakos-mitsotakis-socialist-national-health-service-b1944766.html

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On 14/10/2021 at 00:23, arghton said:

https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/politics/khaleda-needs-go-abroad-treatment-fakhrul-315343

Khaleda Zia's supporters, family and party says that she needs to go abroad for treatment. She has previously suffered from heart, kidney and liver diseases, diabetes, lung troubles and bad arthritis, now has fever and is now reported to be suffering from rheumatroid arhritis, ophthalmological and dental complications...The Daily Star also mentions high blood sugar, urinary tract infection and "other old-age problems" (+depression), some of this might be post-covid stuff.

I don't know how much of this is lies but she is not well and her health seems to have actually declined after catching covid.

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/news/khaleda-zia-icu-after-minor-surgery-2206031

In ICU after minor surgery and biopsy.

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7 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Roh Tae-Woo, former president of South Korea, dead at 88:

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-koreas-former-president-roh-tae-woo-dies-88-yonhap-2021-10-26/

 

In ill health for years, also under corruption charges for years. DDP pick.

Don't need me to tell you, I'm sure, QOs everywhere: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-10131035/Ex-South-Korean-President-Roh-Tae-woo-dies-88.html

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On 05/04/2019 at 22:34, drol said:

Nguyen Con (1915, he came before Do Muoi and looks like a zombie)

Whatever happened to Nguyen Con? He was looking like this in 2017, when marking 80 years of Party membership:

Website Văn phòng Chính phủ | Trao Huy hiệu 80 năm tuổi Đảng cho nguyên Phó  Thủ tướng Nguyễn Côn - Trao Huy hieu 80 nam tuoi Dang cho nguyen Pho Thu  tuong Nguyen Con

 

So how the hell can this guy survive other four years? Well, he has as he celebrates his 85th year of membership in the same hospital. Only he now looks like this, at the spright age of 106:

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Yes! Vietnamese state media are censoring his face for how bad he looks. He is probably the frailest man on Earth as things stand. Creepy to even think he is still going, he was a zombie five years ago.

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1 hour ago, drol said:

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Yes! Vietnamese state media are censoring his face for how bad he looks. He is probably the frailest man on Earth as things stand. Creepy to even think he is still going, he was a zombie five years ago.

How many frail/corpse-like politicians does Vietnam (still) have?

Here are some:

 

Nguyễn Thị Bình, VP 1992-2002 and Paris Peace Accords negotiator celebrated her 75th year of party membership recently. (https://nld.com.vn/thoi-su/chu-tich-nuoc-trao-huy-hieu-75-nam-tuoi-dang-cho-nguyen-pho-chu-tich-nuoc-nguyen-thi-binh-20211024153423893.htm)

Can still stand but looking pale and frail.

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Phạm Thế Duyệt (1936-) Secretary of the Party Committee, Chairman of the Vietnam Fatherland Front Committee 1999-2008:

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Nguyễn Văn Tàu (1928-) and Đặng Văn Thân (1932-), unknown date:

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On 25/10/2021 at 20:13, arghton said:

https://www.thedailystar.net/top-news/news/khaleda-zia-shifted-icu-cabin-2207076

Out of ICU, health "improving", given liquid food.

On the other hand she might have cancer. How long will she keep collecting health problems/diagnoses? Over the past years and months she has had or currently has (or "has", as seems like her supporters tend to lie about her conditions) lung, heart, kidney, liver diseases, covid, diabetes, ophthalmological and dental complications, high blood sugar, urinary tract infection, depression, arthritis/osteoarthritis, post-covid complications, breathing issues, fever (atleast three times this year, in May, July and apparently also now), a mild stroke in 2018 and has been hospitalised multiple times this year (been in ICU and CCU and been given oxygen) and has been in a wheelchair with a bloated-looking pale face for years. Hasn't had pneumonia yet AFAIK, doesn't have dementia yet, but I guess she'll get them later.

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Wikipedia says Nguyen Con was born in 1917 so he's actually 104. They had 3 other centenarian deputy prime ministers - Vo Nguyen Giap (1911-2013), Do Muoi (1917-2018) and Hoang Anh (1912-2016) and 2 almost centenarian presidents - Vo Chi Cong (1912-2011) and Le Duc Anh (1920-2019). Also several living people in their 90s who served as vice president or deputy prime minister. I think Vietnam even beats Japan in terms of longetivity among politicians.

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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/10/27/national/tokyo-koike-hospital/

Yuriko Koike, Governor of Tokyo since 2016 hospitalised with extreme fatigue. Second time this year.

 

 

Also, a list of living Deputy Prime Ministers of Vietnam as they seem to live long (ones from before 2010):

 

Nguyễn Côn (1917-) 1967-1976

Trần Phương (1927-) 1982-1986

Trần Đức Lương (1937-) 1987-1997

Nguyễn Khánh (1928-) 1987-1997

Đoàn Duy Thành (1929-) 1987-1988

Nguyễn Tấn Dũng (1949-) 1997-2006

Nguyễn Mạnh Cầm (1929-) 1997-2002

Ngô Xuân Lộc (1940-) 1997-1999

Phạm Gia Khiêm (1944-) 1997-2011

Vũ Khoan (1937-) 2002-2006

Nguyễn Sinh Hùng (1946-) 2006-2011

Hoàng Trung Hải (1959-) 2007-2016

Nguyễn Thiện Nhân (1953-) 2007-2013

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Tung Chee-hwa has been in and out of hospital recently. Someone taking a punt on him for 2022?

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Republican politician Linwood Holton Jr., who served during the early 1970s as sixty-first Governor of Virginia, died at 98 years:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/linwood-holton-dead/2021/10/28/99615272-c5da-11df-94e1-c5afa35a9e59_story.html

As governor, he created state government jobs for African-Americans and women and supported educational, mental health, and environmental initiatives.

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5 minutes ago, TomTomTelekom said:

Republican politician Linwood Holton Jr., who served during the early 1970s as sixty-first Governor of Virginia, died at 98 years:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/linwood-holton-dead/2021/10/28/99615272-c5da-11df-94e1-c5afa35a9e59_story.html

As governor, he created state government jobs for African-Americans and women and supported educational, mental health, and environmental initiatives.

Thanks to this amazing list. We know he was the 2nd oldest governor! 

 

https://oldestsandlasts.com/index.php?title=List_of_oldest_living_United_States_governors

 

Jimmy Carter is now the oldest living president and second oldest living governor.

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Incidentally, would anyone be able to figure out who is now the 100th oldest living US governor? My (admittedly brief) searching hasn't conjured anything yet...

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Donald DiFrancesco b. 20 Nov 1944

 

Addendum (including all other 44/45 births):


Jim Gibbons b. 16 Dec 1944

Bob Miller b. 30 Mar 1945
George Pataki b. 24 Jun 1945

Bill Weld b. 31 Jul 1945
Fife Symington b. 12 Aug 1945

Tom Ridge b. 26 Aug 1945

Jim Doyle b. 23 Nov 1945

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