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9 hours ago, Thatcher said:

Lee Myung-Bak and Park Geun-hye

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Both in jail, both in wheelchairs and both probably ill. Myung-bak has been hospitalised atleast twice this year, Geun-hye three times and is currently in hospital.

General Jeong or Chung Ho-yong remains. And H. D. Deve Gowda is now in wikipedia's top 100 oldest state leaders list.

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On 21/11/2021 at 20:13, arghton said:

I guess an infection, gallbladder stones, severe dengue fever, pneumonia and other health issues couldn't kill Sir James Mitchell as he was discharged from the Barbados Queen Elizabeth hospital a few days ago. However he's monitored in his home with round-the-clock attention.

Sir James Mitchell, former Prime Minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, reportedly dead aged 90.

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1 hour ago, Thatcher said:

Sir James Mitchell, former Prime Minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, reportedly dead aged 90.

Would have been a popular pick in the Advent avalanche.

And he actually IS a DDP pick for the always curious Theme Team "Not Gone Yet, but Still Forgotten". However, because of his illnesses, the forum actually didn't forget him.

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On 21/09/2021 at 23:24, arghton said:

Also here's a list of the first leaders of countries that gained independence when the Soviet Union collapsed (and before):

 

Georgia (9th of April 1991):

Living from before independence:

Jumber Patiashvili (1940-) Leader 1985-1989

Givi Gumbaridze (1945-) Leader 1989-1990 before Gamsakhurdia.

Nodari Chitanava (1935-) Head of Government 1989-1990.

 

Estonia (20th of August 1991):

Living from before independence:

Karl Vaino (1923-) First Secretary of the Communist Party/leader 1979-1988. 

Vaino Väljas (1931-) First Secretary of the Communist Party 1988-1989. 

 

Latvia (21st of August 1991):

Living from before independence:

Jānis Vagris (1930-) First Secretary/leader 1988-1990.

Alfreds Rubiks (1935-) First secretary 1990-1991.

 

Belarus (25th of August 1991):

Living from before independence:

Nikolay Slyunkov (1929-) Leader 1983-1987.

Yefrem Sokolov (1926-) Leader 1987-1990. Was alive in 2016.

 

Moldova (27th of August 1991):

Living from before independence:

Semion Grossu (1934-) First Secretary/leader 1981-1989, head of government 1976-1980.

Petru Lucinschi (1940-) First Secretary/leader 1989-1991, later 2nd President 1997-2001.

Grigore Eremei (1935-) First Secretary/leader 1991.

Petru Pascari (1929-) Head of govt 1970-1976, 1990.

Ion Ustian (1939-) Head of govt 1980-1985.

Mircea Druc (1941-) Prime Minister 1991.

 

Kyrgyzstan (31st of August 1991):

Living from before independence:

Apas Jumagulov (1934-) Head of Govt 1986-1991, later Prime Minister 1993-1998.

 

Uzbekistan (1st of September 1991):

Living from before independence:

Rafiq Nishonov (1926-) First secretary 1988-1989, leader of Uzbek SSR before Karimov.

 

Tajikistan (9th of September 1991):

Living from before independence:

Nizoramo Zaripova (1923-) Leader as Chairman of the Supreme Soviet 1964. 

 

Armenia (23rd of September 1991):

Living from before independence:

Aram Gaspari Sargsyan (1949-) First Secretary 1991.

 

Azerbaijan (18th of October 1991):

Living from before independence:

Abdurrahman Vazirov (1930-) First Secretary 1990-1991.

 

Turkmenistan (27th of October 1991):

Living from before independence:

Bally Yazkuliyev (1930-alive?) Head of Govt 1975-1978.

Chary Karriyev (1932-alive?) Head of Govt 1978-1985

Annamurat Hojamydarow (1935-alive?) Head of Govt 1986-1989

 

Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (1st of November 1991 to 1st of May 2000, unrecognized):

Living from before independence (Communist Chechnya):

Khazhbikar Bokov (1935-) Head of State 1973-1990

Doku Zavgayev (1940-) Head of State 1990-1991

Khuseyn Akhmadov (1950-) Head of State 1991

Sergey Bekov (1939-) Head of Govt 1990-1991

 

Kazakhstan (16th of December 1991):

Living from before independence:

Vera Sidorova (1934-) Head of State 1988-1989.

Added some names to this list: Some of those who were the leaders of these countries when they were Soviet Socialist Republics. Impressed by how many of these are still alive/have been confirmed to be alive during recent years. Especially Nizoramo Zaripova is a very interesting one, still alive and there's a lot of pictures of her on facebook:

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And I think we'd know if Karl Vaino was dead as he seems to be quite hated in Estonia and his grandson is currently Putin's Chief of Staff.

https://www.gazeta.uz/oz/2020/12/24/nishonov/

Rafiq Nishonov is also still alive and still gives interviews.

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On 21/11/2021 at 01:53, arghton said:

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/politics/news/khaleda-fighting-life-bnp-2233396

Day five of Khaleda Zia's "fighting for life" has started, she's still in CCU. Recently had an endoscopy and has apparently received a blood transfusion. 

 

https://bdnews24.com/politics/2021/11/21/doctors-see-little-improvement-in-khaleda-zias-condition

Edit: Improving. Also doesn't have cirrhosis but she does have "liver complications"

https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/politics/khaleda-zias-condition-very-critical-fakhrul-334030

Khaleda Zia's condition "very critical" and isn't responding to treatment. Bangladesh Police are currently on high alert according to many sources.

 

Has been really tough (if she's as ill as they report her to be)

If she dies during the next hours, days or weeks the country could slide into chaos. 

 

Edit: https://www.newagebd.net/article/155613/khaleda-zias-condition-very-critical-bnp

Visited by health activist Zafrullah Chowdhury who says that "It cannot be said how many days Khaleda Zia will live" and that she's being kept alive with blood transfusions.

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On 26/05/2021 at 21:58, arghton said:

Fixed the 1960 section:

Magana died in 2020 and Colonel Yanes Urias was apparently born in 1920 (reported to be 40 at the time of the coup, too) and seems to be this man, atleast the name and birth date match and someone in the comments says he's the guy:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ComunicacionSV/status/1382068505751793666

 

*snip*
 

Rubén Alonso Rosales is another case that's giving me a headache. Born 1925, probably dead already. Mentioned to have died in 2000 on some sites.

All the other four 1960-61 junta members are confirmed to be dead.

 

*snip*


Give your headache a rest. Have a newspaper obit:

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On 07/07/2021 at 01:22, arghton said:

In other news, Nursultan Nazarbayev, Kazakhstan's first President celebrated his 81st birthday by getting two new statues built of...himself. (https://globalvoices.org/2021/07/06/kazakhstan-celebrates-its-leader-with-two-more-statues/)

https://astanatimes.com/2021/11/nazarbayev-transfers-powers-of-nur-otan-party-chair-to-president-tokayev/

Nursultan Nazarbayev resigns from leadership of Nur Otan, the ruling party transferring leadership to President Tokayev.

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He'll continue as the Chairman for life of the Security Council.

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On 24/11/2021 at 12:44, arghton said:

https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/politics/khaleda-zias-condition-very-critical-fakhrul-334030

Khaleda Zia's condition "very critical" and isn't responding to treatment. Bangladesh Police are currently on high alert according to many sources.

 

Has been really tough (if she's as ill as they report her to be)

If she dies during the next hours, days or weeks the country could slide into chaos. 

 

Edit: https://www.newagebd.net/article/155613/khaleda-zias-condition-very-critical-bnp

Visited by health activist Zafrullah Chowdhury who says that "It cannot be said how many days Khaleda Zia will live" and that she's being kept alive with blood transfusions.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/politics/2021/11/25/bnp-issues-24-hour-ultimatum-for-khaleda-zia-to-be-sent-abroad

Top BNP leaders have announced that if their Chairperson Khaleda Zia is not released and sent abroad within the next 24 hours, there will be a movement to overthrow the government by laying siege to Ganabhaban. 

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4 minutes ago, The Unknown Man said:

Dead. :skull:

:clivedunn:

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On 18/11/2021 at 16:28, drol said:

Former Persian FM Ardeshir Zahedi dead at 93

 

Any pre-revolution notable politicians still alive?

 

EDIT: Hushang Ansary (wiki) is still going at 94.


Got a Times obit. Cause of death given as COVID-19 and pneumonia.

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On 25/11/2021 at 20:16, arghton said:

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/politics/2021/11/25/bnp-issues-24-hour-ultimatum-for-khaleda-zia-to-be-sent-abroad

Top BNP leaders have announced that if their Chairperson Khaleda Zia is not released and sent abroad within the next 24 hours, there will be a movement to overthrow the government by laying siege to Ganabhaban. 

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/politics/news/khaledas-treatment-next-few-days-very-critical-2902941

https://www.newagebd.net/article/155824/fakhrul-says-khaleda-needs-to-go-abroad-immediately-for-treatment

Day 11 of Khaleda Zia's "fighting for life", suffering from blood clots and "liver bleeding"

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On 12/06/2021 at 22:45, arghton said:

Who will be the last of these six alive Cambodian leaders?

 

Khieu Samphan (1931-) Pol Pot's Head of State 1976-1979, Prime Minister 1976. Nonagenarian serving a life sentence in jail, appealed his conviction in August 2021.

His Excellency Samdech Akkeak Moha Ponhea Chakrei Heng Samrin MP (1934-) Head of State 1979-1992. Still active, could actually be the most healthy person on this list.

His Royal Highness, Samdech Krom Preah Norodom Ranariddh (1944-) First Prime Minister 1993-1997. Widowed from his wife who was 35 years younger than him in 2018 after a car crash, in a wheelchair and frail-looking in 2019.

Ung Huot (1945-) First Prime Minister 1997-1998. Completely disappeared from public after Hun Sen took over his position after a short period of "co-rule"

Samdech Akka Moha Sena Padei Techo Hun Sen (1952-) Prime Minister 1984-, former Khmer Rouge fighter and now a dictator. Partially blind from war injuries, stroke-ish face in an UN speech in September 2021.

King Norodom Sihamoni (1953-) King of Cambodia 2004-, sometimes goes to China (October 2020, March 2021) for month-long "medical checkups" with his mother. Does not have a successor and is a lifelong bachelor.

 

Norodom Ranariddh, first Prime Minister following the restoration of the Monarchy serving from 1993-97, dead aged 77.

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On 14/06/2021 at 21:41, arghton said:

There was some talk about Prime Ministers/Presidents outliving their cabinets in the Carter thread. Toshiki Kaifu (b. 1931) Japanese Prime Minister 1989-1991 has outlived nearly all of his cabinet except, according to his cabinet's Japanese wiki page:

 

Taro Nakayama (b. 1924) Foreign Affairs minister

Michihiko Kano (b. 1942) Minister of Agriculture

Hikaru Matsunaga (b. 1928) Trade and Industry minister

Mayumi Moriyama (b. 1927) Chief Cabinet secretary

Hajime Ishii (b. 1934)

Both Kano and Moriyama have died since this post.

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23 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Sometime Floridian Democratic congresswoman Carrie Meek, erstwhile 20/20+1 pick (but not for a few months), reportedly dead aged 95: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-28/former-florida-u-s-rep-carrie-meek-dies-at-95

Also a ddp pick in 2017

http://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2017/celebs_M.html#meekc0

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On 28/11/2021 at 20:19, arghton said:

https://www.banglanews24.com/english/politics/news/bd/92511.details

Khaleda Zia now diagnosed with cirrhosis. 

https://www.newagebd.net/article/156117/fakhrul-says-khaleda-better-now-though-re-bleeds

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/politics/news/khaleda-starts-bleeding-again-2906761

Khaleda Zia suffered from internal bleeding again yesterday for the fourth or fifth time but "the crisis is tackled for now due to the frantic efforts of the physicians"

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34 minutes ago, arghton said:

https://www.newagebd.net/article/156117/fakhrul-says-khaleda-better-now-though-re-bleeds

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/politics/news/khaleda-starts-bleeding-again-2906761

Khaleda Zia suffered from internal bleeding again yesterday for the fourth or fifth time but "the crisis is tackled for now due to the frantic efforts of the physicians"

Oh, so they found some duct tape lying around. 

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Clearing up some recent deaths.

 

Jolene Unsoeld wiki died at age 89 on Nov. 28th. She served the U.S House from 1989-95 (Washington St. + Dem.)

At the time of death she was the 51st oldest living former Rep.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/former-3rd-district-rep-jolene-unsoeld-dies-at-age-89/

 

Albert Bustamante wiki died at age 86 on Nov. 30th. He served the U.S House from 1985-93 (Texas + Dem.)

At the time of death he was just outside the list for oldest living Reps. (Top 100).

Notable for serving 42 months in prison due to fraud + racketeering convictions right after leaving Congress.

https://sanantonioreport.org/albert-bustamante-obit/

 

Larry J. Hopkins wiki died at age 88 on Nov. 15th. He served the U.S House from 1979-93 (Kentucky + Rep.)

At the time of death he was the 73rd oldest living former Rep.

Notable for being the father of actor Josh Hopkins wiki  

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article255860496.html

 

Harris W. Fawell wiki died at age 92 on Nov. 11th. He served the U.S House from 1985-99 (Illinois + Rep.)

At the time of death he was the 25th oldest living former Rep.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/harris-fawell-former-congressman-from-illinois-dead-at-92/2684307/

 

Plugging the wiki-list

https://oldestsandlasts.com/index.php?title=List_of_the_oldest_living_members_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

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On 20/10/2020 at 13:02, arghton said:

There are multiple parliament members of the Finnish parliament who served/born before 1928:

 

Pentti Poutanen (b. 1922) Parliament member 1970-1987. Earliest living parliament member after the death of Raino Westerholm (1919-2017) from June to August 2017 with Markus Kainulainen (born on the same day) until Kainulainen's death.

Pekka Haarla (1923-2021) Consul, Parliament member 1966-1972

Artturi Niemelä (1923-2021) Parliament member 1970-1975

Sinikka Luja-Penttilä (b. 1924) Mentioned above, parliament member 1966-1983. Didn't serve

Taisto Tähkämaa (b. 1924) Mentioned above, parliament member 1970-1991

Ele Alenius (b. 1925) Mentioned above, parliament member 1966-1972

Jutta Zilliacus (b. 1925) Parliament member 1975-1987. Didn't serve.

Väinö Vilponiemi (b. 1925) Parliament member 1962-1975.

Heimo Linna (b. 1925) Mentioned above, parliament member 1966-1987.

Heikki Hasu (b. 1926) Olympic gold medalist, parliament member 1962-1966 and 1967-1970.

Anna-Liisa Hyvönen (b. 1926) Parliament member 1972-1980. Didn't serve.

...

https://www.is.fi/politiikka/art-2000008446319.html

Anna-Liisa Hyvönen dead at 95. Both of her parents were in preventive detention during WWII and helped communist militant Veikko Pöysti (1909-1942) during the war. Joined the Communist Party in the 1940s and later became a member of SKDL. Also worked for the World Federation of Democratic Youth in the 1950s.

She was one of the members of the far-left SKDL who opposed the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia.

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Reports coming in that Bill McKenzie, Lord McKenzie of Luton has died: 

Couple of Parliamentary Under-Secretary positions under Blair and Brown, after being elevated to the peerage following a period on and leading Luton Borough Council.

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On 08/10/2021 at 23:50, Ulitzer95 said:

Report of the death of Andy Howell, aged 64, former Deputy Leader of Birmingham City Council.

A Labour councillor between 1991 and 2003, he was also the son of Labour MP (and later peer) Denis Howell (wiki, 1923–1998).


Took 2 months but got a Grauniad obit.

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